Re: Re: Re: Re: Saturday II

2000-04-17 Thread Jim Devine

Rod writes:  And with every fall, wealth distribution becomes more equal, 
and I am  relatively better off.

yeah, there was growing equality after 1929, too.

But there was also the "reverse wealth effect" (the rich person's poverty 
effect?) in which falling stock markets -- along with falls in other asset 
markets, such as that for owner-occupied housing -- encourage a severe fall 
of luxury spending. (The severity of the fall arises because of the 
asymmetry of debt accumulation: it is much more pleasant to get into debt 
-- including margin debt -- when the asset markets are going up than to go 
into bankruptcy as asset markets fall.) Given  the way in which the US 
economy's recent boom has been based on consumer spending -- and increasing 
consumer indebtedness -- this fall in luxury spending threatens to pop the 
economy's bubble (which could then rebound to undermine asset markets 
further). The resulting recession -- which  has been encouraged by the 
upward creep of short term interest rates that the Fed fomented -- would 
then discourage non-luxury spending by the working class. It would also 
shoot private real investment in the foot. Given the contractionary tilt of 
fiscal policy and the large trade deficit, we'd been in for quite a ride. A 
recession would help the US balance its trade, but it would also broadcast 
recession to the rest of the world, which would sink the boats of those 
countries that are just barely recovering from the last one, not to mention 
those places like Japan which are mired in the muck.

The past accumulation of debt and the falling value of assets would then 
make it very hard for the Fed to use low interest rates to get the economy 
moving again.

As a tenured prof, I don't have to worry too much about my job. But what 
happens if the supply of new students dries up?

BTW, since I can't predict the future, I should state an alternative 
scenario. The Fed will cut interest rates _now_ and flood the asset markets 
with liquidity. But won't that encourage the dreaded inflation? Saint Alan 
is between a rock and a hard place?

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://liberalarts.lmu.edu/~JDevine




Re: Re: Saturday II

2000-04-16 Thread Rod Hay

And with every fall, wealth distribution becomes more equal, and I am
relatively better off.

Rod

Timework Web wrote:

 Did I say 5%? Make that 9% now. The Hang Seng is down 8% as the wave
 sweeps around the globe.

 Tom Walker

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Re: Re: Re: Saturday II

2000-04-16 Thread Eugene Coyle

Going to buy an SUV?

Gene Coyle

Rod Hay wrote:

 And with every fall, wealth distribution becomes more equal, and I am
 relatively better off.

 Rod

 Timework Web wrote:

  Did I say 5%? Make that 9% now. The Hang Seng is down 8% as the wave
  sweeps around the globe.
 
  Tom Walker

 --
 Rod Hay
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