Re: The relationship between capital accumulation, economic growth, and equilibrium

2003-09-28 Thread joanna bujes
I would be interested in seeing the ideas/assertions in this piece being
applied to the process of globalization (privatization of international
commons) and the controversy about whether 1) it is necessary and why 2)
it does (not) result in any gain for the working class.
Joanna

Jurriaan Bendien wrote:

Rakesh, you wrote:

Marx's reproduction schema do not show even the possibility of
capitalism as an intrinsically stable dynamical system. How could
they? They assume a constant OCC, fixed values, annual turnover,
exchange at value (rather than price of production)? They are too far
removed from the reality of an actual capitalist system to lay bare
its  laws of motion.
Correct. I think that above all, Marx wanted to show in the second volume
how it is possible for Capital to dominate the entire economic life of an
economic community, and internalise more and more of the conditions for its
own economic reproduction (cf. Roman Rosdolsky, The Making of Marx's
Capital). In other words, how the relationships, which he had analysed at
the level of the enterprise and the labour process in the first volume,
asserted themselves at the level of social production as a whole, the
interactions between enterprises. The subtitle of the second volume is, in
fact called the process of the circulation of capital and not, for
example, the process whereby Capital finds its equilibrium or the process
by which Capital ensures economic growth.
Marx is not trying to find the necessary conditions for total supply and
total demand to balance, he is rather seeking to specify the necessary
conditions for the accumulation of Capital, when the circulation of money
and commodities (commercial trade) invade an entire economic community,
rather than exist merely at the boundaries of an economic community, as
happened for most of the economic history of trade. Precisely because any
economic community is faced with the necessity of producing specific types
of use-values (in the first instance, means of production and means of
consumption), Marx is investigating how Capital modifies and regulates that
process.
A good discussion of the reproduction schemes is also provided by Edward
Chilcote, see
www.gre.ac.uk/~fa03/iwgvt/files/97Chilcote.rtf+Chilcote+reproduction+schemes
hl=nlie=UTF-8
I think that the best way to understand the connection between economic
growth and capital accumulation in Marx's theory is to say that economic
growth IS CONDITIONAL on capital accumulation, capital accumulation is the
sine qua non, the necessary condition. This formula, or something like this,
I think is apposite, because it shows that economic growth and capital
accumulation are not at all the same thing, they are different things. You
can have relatively slow growth in real production, and relatively fast
capital accumulation, precisely because the capitalist mode of production is
a contradictory unity of the production process and the circulation
process, as Marx himself says repeatedly. With the aid of credit and
monetary manipulations, and given a high productive capacity (such that a
smaller proportion of the workforce produces a larger physical output),
circulation processes can become semi-autonomous from production processes.
The implication of this is as follows: Marx describes the basic forms of
capital as production capital, money capital and commodity capital,
but it may be that an increasing proportion of capital is tied up in money
capital and commodity capital, and Marx says, that this is ultimately purely
a question of relative profitability and profit expectations. Rosa Luxemburg
said quite correctly that under capitalism, simple economic reproduction is
conditional on expanded reproduction, and that the implication of this is,
that capitalism requires a continual expansion of the market, and it is in
this expansion of the market that she sees the root cause of imperialism.
But this side-steps the question: market for what, exactly ? A market for
money capital, commodity capital, or production capital ?
In fact, this issue is crucial to understanding what has happened in the
world economy, where the volume of annual world trade exceeds the volume of
new valued added, and a gigantic mass of capital is tied up in monetary
speculation. When Harrod and Domar tried to derive the conditions for a
steady economic growth path in the 1950s and 1960s, they do not really
understand this, because growth in real output and capital accumulation are
really separate questions, yet bourgeois economics is unable to treat them
as separate questions, because it fails to understand, or hides, the social
framework within which these social processes occur. The objective of the
owner of capital is not to raise output as such, but to raise output to make
more money, and if he cannot make more money from that, he does not raise
output, but he takes his money somewhere else, where he can make more money.
This insight enables us to specify another observation: the 

Re: The relationship between capital accumulation, economic growth, and equilibrium

2003-09-28 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Thanks. I will try to work on the problem. Between you and me, I had the
misfortune of working with a pack of idiots inadvertently, although I also
connected with some of the best. But anyway, the idiocy set me back a decade
in terms of research. I suppose I also have to say that my theories about
the precise phase I was at sexually did not help either, and because of the
stupidity of contemporary sexual mores you can get a lot of problems, since
people just will not leave you alone in your private sphere when you want to
work without interference. There were just a few personal issues I did not
anticipate correctly, bit of human error.
All in all, I often feel hopeless and think I just don't care anymore. But
this is an extremely dangerous sentiment, and, I ought really to work
towards being more responsible and just avoid all the idiots. So anyway I
will try to tackle the problem in the future.

J.


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 I would be interested in seeing the ideas/assertions in this piece being
 applied to the process of globalization (privatization of international
 commons) and the controversy about whether 1) it is necessary and why 2)
 it does (not) result in any gain for the working class.

 Joanna

 Jurriaan Bendien wrote:

 Rakesh, you wrote:
 
 Marx's reproduction schema do not show even the possibility of
 capitalism as an intrinsically stable dynamical system. How could
 they? They assume a constant OCC, fixed values, annual turnover,
 exchange at value (rather than price of production)? They are too far
 removed from the reality of an actual capitalist system to lay bare
 its  laws of motion.
 
 Correct. I think that above all, Marx wanted to show in the second volume
 how it is possible for Capital to dominate the entire economic life of
an
 economic community, and internalise more and more of the conditions for
its
 own economic reproduction (cf. Roman Rosdolsky, The Making of Marx's
 Capital). In other words, how the relationships, which he had analysed at
 the level of the enterprise and the labour process in the first volume,
 asserted themselves at the level of social production as a whole, the
 interactions between enterprises. The subtitle of the second volume is,
in
 fact called the process of the circulation of capital and not, for
 example, the process whereby Capital finds its equilibrium or the
process
 by which Capital ensures economic growth.
 
 Marx is not trying to find the necessary conditions for total supply and
 total demand to balance, he is rather seeking to specify the necessary
 conditions for the accumulation of Capital, when the circulation of money
 and commodities (commercial trade) invade an entire economic community,
 rather than exist merely at the boundaries of an economic community, as
 happened for most of the economic history of trade. Precisely because any
 economic community is faced with the necessity of producing specific
types
 of use-values (in the first instance, means of production and means of
 consumption), Marx is investigating how Capital modifies and regulates
that
 process.
 
 A good discussion of the reproduction schemes is also provided by Edward
 Chilcote, see

www.gre.ac.uk/~fa03/iwgvt/files/97Chilcote.rtf+Chilcote+reproduction+scheme
s
 hl=nlie=UTF-8
 
 I think that the best way to understand the connection between economic
 growth and capital accumulation in Marx's theory is to say that
economic
 growth IS CONDITIONAL on capital accumulation, capital accumulation is
the
 sine qua non, the necessary condition. This formula, or something like
this,
 I think is apposite, because it shows that economic growth and capital
 accumulation are not at all the same thing, they are different things.
You
 can have relatively slow growth in real production, and relatively fast
 capital accumulation, precisely because the capitalist mode of production
is
 a contradictory unity of the production process and the circulation
 process, as Marx himself says repeatedly. With the aid of credit and
 monetary manipulations, and given a high productive capacity (such that a
 smaller proportion of the workforce produces a larger physical output),
 circulation processes can become semi-autonomous from production
processes.
 
 The implication of this is as follows: Marx describes the basic forms of
 capital as production capital, money capital and commodity capital,
 but it may be that an increasing proportion of capital is tied up in
money
 capital and commodity capital, and Marx says, that this is ultimately
purely
 a question of relative profitability and profit expectations. Rosa
Luxemburg
 said quite correctly that under capitalism, simple economic reproduction
is
 conditional on expanded reproduction, and that the implication of this
is,
 that