US profitability

1997-10-30 Thread James Devine

Trevor Evans writes: But its interesting to note that today's Financial
Times (29 October, p. 14) carries an article by someone called Ricahrd
Waters, which says: 'Leaving aside the effects of lower taxes and declind
interest rates, the
profits miracle looks much less impressive. A return on sales of about 25
per cent before interest , taxes and depreciation leaves the profitability
of the average US company below the peak levels hit in both the 1970s and
1980s. ...'

I don't think that the "return on sales" is relevant. It's like the big
grocery chains complaining about their small profit margins. What matters
is the profit rate on capital invested.

 Also, Andrew Glynn has an article on profitability in the September 1997
issue of the Cambridge Journal of Economics, in which he produces figures
showing that the profit share and the profit rate in the US have risen
since the early 1980s, but that they are still considerably below their
level in the mid-1960s.

He's right (and I have an unpublished and unfinished ms. on this). But the
rapid rise of profit rates during the 1990s is also quite important. 

How good profitability is depends on one's frame of reference. And more
than one frame of reference seems relevant. 

that's enough for today.



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US profitability

1997-10-30 Thread Trevor Evans

Thanks to Doug for reporting Anwar Shaik's evaluation of profitability.

But its interesting to note that today's Financial Times (29 October, p.
14) carries an article by someone called Ricahrd Waters, which says:

'Leaving aside the effects of lower taxes and declind interest rates, the
profits miracle looks much less impressive. A return on sales of about 25
per cent before interest , taxes and depreciation leaves the profitability
of the average US company below the peak levels hit in both the 1970s and
1980s. ... The likelihood that earnings growth is about to slow has already
been a source of unease on Wall Street.'

Also, Andrew Glynn has an article on profitability in the September 1997
issue of the Cambridge Journal of Economics, in which he produces figures
showing that the profit share and the profit rate in the US have risen
since the early 1980s, but that they are still considerably below their
level in the mid-1960s.

Trevor Evans.





[PEN-L:10201] US profitability

1997-05-18 Thread Doug Henwood

Bill Burgess, Tom Walker, and others were talking about profitability. I
just looked at the profits/GDP series for a piece in LBO comparing the
present expansion with previous postwar US expansions. Not to give it all
away before it even reaches subscribers, I'll say that on most indicators,
the 1991- upswing is middling-to-poor - except profits, which have been in
an uptrend (as a % of GDP) since the early 1980s. Nonres fixed investment,
though, isn't terrific, and more of it seems to be done by financial firms,
whose contribution to human welfare is open to challenge.

There haven't been any capital stock figures since 1994's, so it's
impossible to do profits/K estimates. But that series follows a similar
pattern - a decline from the early 50s into the early 80s, and a ragged
uptrend since.

Doug

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