Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news
Michael Perelman wrote: Sorry. Even a serious subject can be treated as minor squabbles about personalities. I don't think it's just about personalities. For example: There is much too much ideology," said Alan S. Blinder,... Economics, he added, is "often a triumph of theory over fact." Mr. Blinder helped kindle the discussion by publicly warning in speeches and articles this year that as many as 30 million to 40 million Americans could lose their jobs to lower-paid workers abroad. Just by raising doubts about the unmitigated benefits of free trade, he ... had colleagues rubbing their eyes in astonishment. "What I've learned is anyone who says anything even obliquely that sounds hostile to free trade is treated as an apostate," Mr. Blinder said.< and: "You lose your ticket as a certified economist if you don't say any kind of price regulation is bad and free trade is good," said David Card ...< and: When Mr. Card's graduate students went on job interviews, he said other economists would ask questions like "What's wrong with your adviser? Has he started drinking?"< and: Criticizing the approach that currently dominates the field, Mr. Blinder said economists must look more closely at the real world instead of modeling it in the lab. "Economics is insufficiently scientific," he said. "Mathematics may be useful, but mathematics is not scientific. It doesn't generate refutable hypotheses." < When well-known economists are quoted saying things like that in the NY TIMES, it makes the economics profession look bad. And that's a good thing. -- Jim Devine / "The tooth fairy teaches children that they can sell body parts for money." -- David Richerby
Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news
Sorry. Even a serious subject can be treated as minor squabbles about personalities. On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 02:18:38PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote: > that's changing the question. > > On 7/11/07, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you think that the article really gave a flavor of what is going on. It > > even has > > one of its heterodox representative (Rodrik) saying that the hets are wrong. > > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:01:27PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote: > > > > > > like heterodox economics? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jim Devine / "The tooth fairy teaches children that they can sell > > > body parts for money." -- David Richerby > > > > -- > > Michael Perelman > > Economics Department > > California State University > > Chico, CA 95929 > > > > Tel. 530-898-5321 > > E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu > > michaelperelman.wordpress.com > > > > > -- > Jim Devine / "The tooth fairy teaches children that they can sell > body parts for money." -- David Richerby -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com
Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news
that's changing the question. On 7/11/07, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you think that the article really gave a flavor of what is going on. It even has one of its heterodox representative (Rodrik) saying that the hets are wrong. On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:01:27PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote: > > like heterodox economics? > > > -- > Jim Devine / "The tooth fairy teaches children that they can sell > body parts for money." -- David Richerby -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com -- Jim Devine / "The tooth fairy teaches children that they can sell body parts for money." -- David Richerby
Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news
Do you think that the article really gave a flavor of what is going on. It even has one of its heterodox representative (Rodrik) saying that the hets are wrong. On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:01:27PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote: > > like heterodox economics? > > > -- > Jim Devine / "The tooth fairy teaches children that they can sell > body parts for money." -- David Richerby -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com
Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news
On 7/11/07, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pack journalism is old news. But it used to revolve around stories like Senator Vitter, bless his soul. Now, it has spread to areas of little pressing interest. like heterodox economics? -- Jim Devine / "The tooth fairy teaches children that they can sell body parts for money." -- David Richerby
Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news
Pack journalism is old news. But it used to revolve around stories like Senator Vitter, bless his soul. Now, it has spread to areas of little pressing interest. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com
Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news
On 7/11/07, Michael Perelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I get the impression now that the mainstream media is becoming more like a blog. "now" becoming more like a blog? when wasn't it that way? Pack journalism has been around for a very long time, while true investigative journalism has always been rare in the semiofficial media. It's quite possible that the most famous case of investigative journalism (Woodward & Bernstein on Watergate) was more a result of infighting within the Nixon administration than due to Woodstein's efforts. -- Jim Devine / "The tooth fairy teaches children that they can sell body parts for money." -- David Richerby
Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news
I get the impression now that the mainstream media is becoming more like a blog. A story appears -- this time in the Nation -- and suddenly all the media pick it up and modify it. Much cheaper than investigative reporting, reporting can be very influential. Judith Miller and Michael Gordon (who is continuing with his Iran jihad) represent the negative influence; the new Cheney series demonstrates how it can do some good. It will be interesting to see what Rupert does to the Wall Street Journal. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu michaelperelman.wordpress.com
