Re: Fwd: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

[David Cantrell]

Michael G Schwern wrote:

 As for the social problem, the BSD testers could try to help out with whatever
 the problem is.

FWIW, I do, *if* the author gets in touch with me.  It's not practical
for me to try to help solve all the problems I find, but if an author
cares enough to contact me, then I'm happy to run more tests for him,
try out patches, or give him the s3kr1t keys to the guest account on my
testing machines.

I would hope that most testers would do at least some of this.

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Re: Fwd: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

[Ovid]

--- Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It is particularly near to my heart as Test::More has a similiar
 problem with thread tests and I'm not sure what to do about it.

I've discovered that handing the problem to Andy Armstrong and batting
my eyelashes works wonders.

Cheers,
Ovid

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Re: Fwd: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

[chromatic]

On Tuesday 18 December 2007 17:27:24 Andy Armstrong wrote:

 Someone (MLEHMANN) doesn't like smoking... That was a test report
 generated by CPAN::Reporter.

 It hadn't previously occurred to me that test reports might cause
 offence...

Didn't you get a whole slew of them a while back where the problem was that 
that the reporter hadn't properly configured Windows to build modules?  How 
about the one where the reporter had configured CPAN never to follow 
dependencies?

-- c

Re: Fwd: Auto: Your message 'FAIL IO-AIO-2.51 i386-freebsd-thread-multi 6.2-release' has NOT been received

[Michael G Schwern]

chromatic wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 December 2007 17:27:24 Andy Armstrong wrote:
 
 Someone (MLEHMANN) doesn't like smoking... That was a test report
 generated by CPAN::Reporter.

 It hadn't previously occurred to me that test reports might cause
 offence...
 
 Didn't you get a whole slew of them a while back where the problem was that 
 that the reporter hadn't properly configured Windows to build modules?  How 
 about the one where the reporter had configured CPAN never to follow 
 dependencies?

That said, looking through IO::AIO's failures they seem reasonably legit to
me.  It has trouble on BSD, and some other systems, a useful thing to know.
IO::AIO lacks any special INSTALL instructions or special notes about BSD in
general.  There are a couple notes generated by the Makefile.PL about FreeBSD
and threading and Linux and malloc issues, but that will whiz by and likely be
completely missed.  So even a human installer would not know what to do.

Anyhow, what's clear is there is a problem with IO::AIO.  It hasn't been
addressed properly by the author.  While it's frustrating to get a constant
stream of your shit is broke, his shit is indeed broke.  This is a clear
case of CPAN Testers technology working as expected and tickling a social 
problem.

It is particularly near to my heart as Test::More has a similiar problem with
thread tests and I'm not sure what to do about it.  There was the suggested
author does not care marker for tests which might fail but are only for the
information of the installer -- the author already knows about them, don't
report the failure.

As for the social problem, the BSD testers could try to help out with whatever
the problem is.  On Marc's side he could ask for help instead of asking
everyone to turn off the immensely useful automated testing.  It could also
use an INSTALL doc and have the Makefile.PL warnings be more prominent with
perhaps a pause, beep or a well-behaved Do you wish to continue? [No].


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