Re: UNKNOWN despite only failing tests -- how come?

2007-12-11 Thread David Golden
On Dec 4, 2007 6:37 PM, Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andreas J. Koenig wrote:
  Bug in CPAN::Reporter and/or Test::Harness and/or CPAN.pm?
 
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/796974
http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/825449
 
  All tests fail but Test::Harness reports NOTESTS and CPAN::Reporter
  concludes UNKNOWN and CPAN.pm then installs it.

 Test::Harness bug where it concludes NOTESTS if it sees no test output, as
 is the case when every test dies.  I'll see about fixing it.

[Original thread sent to perl-qa -- I'm adding tapx-dev]

The fix in Test::Harness 3.05 now gives FAIL on no test output even if
the test exits without error.  Previously, no failure and no test
output was NOTESTS.  Andreas reported this to me on the RT queue for
CPAN::Reporter as it breaks CPAN::Reporter tests.

I initially would have said this new behavior -- while definitely a
change -- is fine and I just need to update what CPAN::Reporter
expects, but as I dug into the test cases, I realized why it may not
be the right thing to do.

ExtUtils::MakeMake and Module::Build  treat test.pl differently.
EU::MM just runs it and uses the exit code.  M::B passes it to
Test::Harness.  Thus, a test.pl with no output (i.e no plan) has
different behavior under each:

* test.pl, no output, exit 0 - EU::MM says pass, M::B says unknown
* test.pl, no output, exit 1 - EU::MM says fail, M::B says unknown

(This is what t/54_test_report_split.t in CPAN::Reporter checks for.)

Now, I know that test.pl is increasingly rare, but someone once
pointed out to me that h2xs in 5.6.2 still generates test.pl (and with
Test.pm, no less).  So at least until 5.6 is declared dead, I'm trying
to keep CPAN::Reporter able to deal with test.pl whether by itself or
in combination with *.t files and under EU::MM or M::B.

Overall, I'd prefer if Test::Harness releases that changed the
definition of failure were released in a developer version first so we
could try to catch and discuss these things earlier.  Running
CPAN::Reporter tests against T::H dev releases should help catch any
behavior changes -- I've tried to capture as many test/output
scenarios as possible.  (See t/dist/ in CPAN::Reporter.)

In any case, right now T::H 3.05 breaks CPAN::Reporter installation.
I can change what CPAN::Reporter expects from T::H for 3.05+, but I
don't want to do that until I'm sure the new T::H behavior is correct
and stable.

Thoughts from the crowd welcome.

Regards,
David


Re: UNKNOWN despite only failing tests -- how come?

2007-12-05 Thread Andy Armstrong

On 4 Dec 2007, at 20:24, Andreas J. Koenig wrote:


Bug in CPAN::Reporter and/or Test::Harness and/or CPAN.pm?

 http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/796974
 http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/825449

All tests fail but Test::Harness reports NOTESTS and CPAN::Reporter
concludes UNKNOWN and CPAN.pm then installs it.

Your opinions welcome,



I guess it's because Test::Harness says NOTESTS at the end. Hmm. Yeah,  
I guess it should fail in that case...


--
Andy Armstrong, Hexten






Re: UNKNOWN despite only failing tests -- how come?

2007-12-05 Thread Andy Armstrong

On 4 Dec 2007, at 23:37, Michael G Schwern wrote:
Test::Harness bug where it concludes NOTESTS if it sees no test  
output, as

is the case when every test dies.  I'll see about fixing it.



Is done.

--
Andy Armstrong, Hexten






Re: UNKNOWN despite only failing tests -- how come?

2007-12-05 Thread Andy Armstrong

On 4 Dec 2007, at 20:24, Andreas J. Koenig wrote:

Bug in CPAN::Reporter and/or Test::Harness and/or CPAN.pm?

 http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/796974
 http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/825449

All tests fail but Test::Harness reports NOTESTS and CPAN::Reporter
concludes UNKNOWN and CPAN.pm then installs it.



Will be fixed in 3.05. Thanks for the sanity Andreas :)

--
Andy Armstrong, Hexten






Re: UNKNOWN despite only failing tests -- how come?

2007-12-04 Thread David Golden
CPAN::Reporter says explicitly that UNKNOWN will return success to
CPAN.pmand not prevent installation.  I think this is a Test::Harness
bug.

David

On Dec 4, 2007 3:24 PM, Andreas J. Koenig 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bug in CPAN::Reporter and/or Test::Harness and/or CPAN.pm?

  http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/796974
  http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/825449

 All tests fail but Test::Harness reports NOTESTS and CPAN::Reporter
 concludes UNKNOWN and CPAN.pm then installs it.

 Your opinions welcome,
 --
 andreas



UNKNOWN despite only failing tests -- how come?

2007-12-04 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
Bug in CPAN::Reporter and/or Test::Harness and/or CPAN.pm?

  http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/796974
  http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/825449

All tests fail but Test::Harness reports NOTESTS and CPAN::Reporter
concludes UNKNOWN and CPAN.pm then installs it.

Your opinions welcome,
-- 
andreas


Re: UNKNOWN despite only failing tests -- how come?

2007-12-04 Thread Michael G Schwern
Andreas J. Koenig wrote:
 Bug in CPAN::Reporter and/or Test::Harness and/or CPAN.pm?
 
   http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/796974
   http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/825449
 
 All tests fail but Test::Harness reports NOTESTS and CPAN::Reporter
 concludes UNKNOWN and CPAN.pm then installs it.

Test::Harness bug where it concludes NOTESTS if it sees no test output, as
is the case when every test dies.  I'll see about fixing it.


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