Re: [perl-win32-gui] gui builder

2000-12-13 Thread David Hiltz

> David Hiltz et al:
> 
> Yes, David!  I don't know about the other Win32::GUI users, but I 
> would surely appreciate a tool of this capacity!  Briefly, I played 
> with your previous releases.  At the time, I found them limited in 
> usage.

  My very first version moved objects around using the ->Move() method (it
  was very clunky and limited).  Then Aldo showed me how to use a Paint
  method which add more flexibility.  I then released v0.01 which has the
  functionality I listed below.

> Yet, they expedited the GUI-building process.  After all, few of us want
> to waste our time on GUI-building when we can be concentrating on the true
> programming!  Look at Microsoft: Gates has made a fortune off the simple
> fact that all the Visual tools simplify the layout of GUI's!
> 
> You feel free to let me know what I could personally do to help you 
> better this application!

  feedback is good.  What you like, don't like, what you think would improve
  it.  Give me a few weeks to release the version I'm working on now.

  I should also put together a web page with screen shots, documentation 
  and link to download the program.

  I don't know where I would put this page - I'll have to ask my boss if 
  it is ok to host it on one of our servers.

  -dave

> 
> Sincerely,
> Brad Smith,
> Social Design Technologies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> On 12 Dec 00, at 14:36, David Hiltz wrote:
> 
> > > is there a forms builder or a gui builder for the win32::GUI module ?
> > 
> >   I've been working on one.  It will lets you drag around widgets (buttons,
> >   labels, etc) and place them on an empty window.  You can size them and
> >   change some basic properties about the widgets.  You can also save your
> >   work and read it back into to make changes.
> > 
> >   I call the program "GB" (GUI Builder).
> > 
> >   You might find a copy in the archives.  I have made some minor fixes and
> >   additions to the program since the last version, but haven't gotten around
> >   to releasing it.  If there is enough interest, I can become motivated to
> >   do so.  ;)
> > 
> >   -David Hiltz
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [perl-win32-gui] gui builder

2000-12-13 Thread David Hiltz

> One final note on the GUI Builder project:
> 
> Many times, when I am programming and including an interface, I 
> have to flip-flop between TK and GUI.  David, does your GUI Builder 
> have to be so exclusive in programming, or could you open it up to 
> include functionality available under the TK module as well?

  I think there is still quite a bit to do be done with GB and the
  Win32::GUI stuff that I don't have time to add TK stuff.

  The look and feel of TK stuff under window as well as widgets available
  are different enough that it would cause GB to be more complex than it
  needs to be.  Not to say it's not possible, just not practical at this
  point.  Plus, I think there are a few visual TK builders out there
  already.  

> 
> Brad Smith,
> Social Design Technologies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> On 13 Dec 00, at 13:41, Robert Sherman wrote:
> 
> > i believe i have located it (for any interested):
> > 
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/perl-win32-gui@httptech.com/msg00718.html
> > 
> > -rob
> > 
> > David Hiltz wrote:
> > > 
> > > > is there a forms builder or a gui builder for the win32::GUI module ?
> > > 
> > >   I've been working on one.  It will lets you drag around widgets (buttons,
> > >   labels, etc) and place them on an empty window.  You can size them and
> > >   change some basic properties about the widgets.  You can also save your
> > >   work and read it back into to make changes.
> > > 
> > >   I call the program "GB" (GUI Builder).
> > > 
> > >   You might find a copy in the archives.  I have made some minor fixes and
> > >   additions to the program since the last version, but haven't gotten around
> > >   to releasing it.  If there is enough interest, I can become motivated to
> > >   do so.  ;)
> > > 
> > >   -David Hiltz
> > 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [perl-win32-gui] gui builder

2000-12-13 Thread MATA Tech

One final note on the GUI Builder project:

Many times, when I am programming and including an interface, I 
have to flip-flop between TK and GUI.  David, does your GUI Builder 
have to be so exclusive in programming, or could you open it up to 
include functionality available under the TK module as well?

Brad Smith,
Social Design Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



On 13 Dec 00, at 13:41, Robert Sherman wrote:

> i believe i have located it (for any interested):
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/perl-win32-gui@httptech.com/msg00718.html
> 
> -rob
> 
> David Hiltz wrote:
> > 
> > > is there a forms builder or a gui builder for the win32::GUI module ?
> > 
> >   I've been working on one.  It will lets you drag around widgets (buttons,
> >   labels, etc) and place them on an empty window.  You can size them and
> >   change some basic properties about the widgets.  You can also save your
> >   work and read it back into to make changes.
> > 
> >   I call the program "GB" (GUI Builder).
> > 
> >   You might find a copy in the archives.  I have made some minor fixes and
> >   additions to the program since the last version, but haven't gotten around
> >   to releasing it.  If there is enough interest, I can become motivated to
> >   do so.  ;)
> > 
> >   -David Hiltz
> 





Re: [perl-win32-gui] gui builder

2000-12-13 Thread MATA Tech

David Hiltz et al:

Yes, David!  I don't know about the other Win32::GUI users, but I 
would surely appreciate a tool of this capacity!  Briefly, I played 
with your previous releases.  At the time, I found them limited in 
usage.  Yet, they expedited the GUI-building process.  After all, 
few of us want to waste our time on GUI-building when we can be 
concentrating on the true programming!  Look at Microsoft:  Gates 
has made a fortune off the simple fact that all the Visual tools 
simplify the layout of GUI's!  

You feel free to let me know what I could personally do to help you 
better this application!

Sincerely,
Brad Smith,
Social Design Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 12 Dec 00, at 14:36, David Hiltz wrote:

> > is there a forms builder or a gui builder for the win32::GUI module ?
> 
>   I've been working on one.  It will lets you drag around widgets (buttons,
>   labels, etc) and place them on an empty window.  You can size them and
>   change some basic properties about the widgets.  You can also save your
>   work and read it back into to make changes.
> 
>   I call the program "GB" (GUI Builder).
> 
>   You might find a copy in the archives.  I have made some minor fixes and
>   additions to the program since the last version, but haven't gotten around
>   to releasing it.  If there is enough interest, I can become motivated to
>   do so.  ;)
> 
>   -David Hiltz
> 
> 
> 





Re: [perl-win32-gui] gui builder

2000-12-13 Thread Robert Sherman

i believe i have located it (for any interested):

http://www.mail-archive.com/perl-win32-gui@httptech.com/msg00718.html

-rob

David Hiltz wrote:
> 
> > is there a forms builder or a gui builder for the win32::GUI module ?
> 
>   I've been working on one.  It will lets you drag around widgets (buttons,
>   labels, etc) and place them on an empty window.  You can size them and
>   change some basic properties about the widgets.  You can also save your
>   work and read it back into to make changes.
> 
>   I call the program "GB" (GUI Builder).
> 
>   You might find a copy in the archives.  I have made some minor fixes and
>   additions to the program since the last version, but haven't gotten around
>   to releasing it.  If there is enough interest, I can become motivated to
>   do so.  ;)
> 
>   -David Hiltz



[perl-win32-gui] yuppiti yuppiti yep (0.0.502)

2000-12-13 Thread Aldo Calpini

hello hello hello,

I've finally hunted to death the cursed
bug with mangled output from Textfield!

for those who are interested, it was my
fault at all: in the WM_CTLCOLOR* message
processing (to support -background and
-foreground options), I added an ingenuos:

SetBkMode((HDC) wParam, TRANSPARENT)

this was needed to properly colorize
Labels, but was incorrectly applied to
other controls too.
obviously, the background of the Textfield
was marked as TRANSPARENT, so scrolling
did not clear the content of the background
area and the display was all garbled.
I still don't understand why I did not
noticed it before, I seem to remember having
done lot of tests commenting out parts of the
message processing loop, but apparently I
experienced a temporary brain blackout :-)
  
other than that, this version has a nice
Scroll() method for Textfield and RichEdit.
I have also added a sample for the Splitter
control.
I'm working on the documentation, which is
now splitted in fewer files:
- packages.html
- methods.html
- options.html
- events.html

I've done a lot of work to cross-reference
things back and forth, I hope it is somewhat
clearer this way. Still very very incomplete,
though. If someone wants to help with it,
this is your chance to offer a hand :-)

as always, binaries for 5.005 and 5.6.0 will
follow as PPM packages.

cheers,
Aldo

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