RE: Need help with range operator

2006-03-17 Thread Chris Wagner
At 07:54 PM 3/17/2006 -0500, Dial, Joe wrote:
>So, I looked for it.  Found it in chapter 6 of the Perl Cookbook. Its
>Recipe 6.8.
>See this URL: http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/perl/cookbook/ch06_09.htm
>
>I don't understand exactly why the original posted code doesn't work,
>but is remarkably
>similar to that recipe.

Yep, ur right.
while (<>) {
print if m##i .. m##i;
}

This is one of those cases where one perl operator is really two operators
in one, that have nothing to do with each other. ;)  Seems that in scalar
context .. is a flip-flop operator and not a range operator at all.  Vice
versa for list context which we all know and love.  So strictly speaking, my
statement was correct. 0:)






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Re: Need help with range operator

2006-03-17 Thread $Bill Luebkert
Dial, Joe wrote:

> Hi,
> When I read the first post, I remembered seeing that somewhere before.
> Then, I was amazed to see the "this is not what the range operator was
> meant to do." 
> 
> So, I looked for it.  Found it in chapter 6 of the Perl Cookbook. Its
> Recipe 6.8.
> See this URL: http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/perl/cookbook/ch06_09.htm
> 
> I don't understand exactly why the original posted code doesn't work,
> but is remarkably
> similar to that recipe.

Maybe Craig will tell us how he resolved his problem (stayed with his
general code or tried something else).

I suggested just a small fix to the orig. code, but the logic was the same.

> Just had to weigh in...
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Re: Hash return value

2006-03-17 Thread Chris Wagner
Yeah that's what I started to suspect after I posted.  mkhash() should be
saved to a variable name and that variable used in the while each loop.

At 01:18 PM 3/18/2006 +1100, Sisyphus wrote:
>That's not what I find.
>The following script (suggested by Chris) simply prints "All done" for me.
>


my($key, $value);
%temp = mkhash();
while (($key, $value)= each( %temp ))

>my($key, $value);
>while (($key, $value)= each( %{mkhash()} ))
>{
>print("$key = $value\n");
>}
>
>print "All done\n";
>
>sub mkhash
>{
> my %hash=('one'=>1, 'two'=>2, 'three'=>3);
> return %hash;
>}
>
>__END__



three = 3
one = 1
two = 2
All done





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Re: Implementing or Emulating TSRs in Win32 Console Apps

2006-03-17 Thread Chris Wagner
At 11:09 PM 3/17/2006 +0200, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Veli-Pekka_T=E4til=E4?= wrote:
>It's no big deal really but I wonder why you use the marginally shorter 
>forms u and ur in stead of you and your. U renders quite well with a speech 
>synth here, but ur is pretty much indistinguishable from err, .

:) I guess it's a combination the netspeak and the desire to make things
shorter.  I am atleast somewhat of a reductionist. ;)





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Re: Hash return value

2006-03-17 Thread Sisyphus

- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Amick"
.
.
> You can return a reference to a
> hash instead and then dereference it in the caller:
>
> while (($key, $value)= each( %{ mkhash() }))
> {
> print("$key = $value\n");
> }
>
> sub mkhash
> {
>  my %hash=('one'=>1, 'two'=>2, 'three'=>3);
>  return \%hash;
> }

That's not what I find.
The following script (suggested by Chris) simply prints "All done" for me.

use warnings;

my($key, $value);
while (($key, $value)= each( %{mkhash()} ))
{
print("$key = $value\n");
}

print "All done\n";

sub mkhash
{
 my %hash=('one'=>1, 'two'=>2, 'three'=>3);
 return %hash;
}

__END__

Run it under strictures and I get the fatal error:

Can't use string ("3/8") as a HASH ref while "strict refs" in use.

If I change mkhash() so that it returns a hashref (as you've suggested
above), I just get (ad infinitum):

three = 3
three = 3
three = 3
three = 3
three = 3
three = 3
three = 3
three = 3
three = 3
three = 3
.
.

Looks to me that all you've succeeded in doing is find a way around the
safeguard that was put in place - and that neverending ouptut is pretty much
what I would expect to see when that safeguard has been breached. At each
iteration of the while loop, mkhash() gets re-run and each() gets a new
anonymous hash to deal with.

Cheers,
Rob


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RE: Need help with range operator

2006-03-17 Thread Dial, Joe

Hi,
When I read the first post, I remembered seeing that somewhere before.
Then, I was amazed to see the "this is not what the range operator was
meant to do." 

So, I looked for it.  Found it in chapter 6 of the Perl Cookbook. Its
Recipe 6.8.
See this URL: http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/perl/cookbook/ch06_09.htm

I don't understand exactly why the original posted code doesn't work,
but is remarkably
similar to that recipe.

Just had to weigh in...

Joe Dial
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Craig Cardimon
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Subject: Re: Need help with range operator

Thanks for the replies, folks! I got all kinds of responses.

I've seen a "here's one way to do it," a "we could use more information
on what you're trying to do," and a "this is not what the range operator
was meant to do."

It's kind of fascinating, really. List members use perl for different
tasks, and our ideas vary a lot, it seems, on how perl should be used.

Keeps things from getting boring.

-- Craig



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Re: Hash return value

2006-03-17 Thread Eric Amick
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:05:07 -0800, you wrote:

># Using subroutine that returns a hash doesn't work
>while (($key, $value)= each( mkhash() ))
>{
>print("$key = $value\n");
>}
>
>sub mkhash
>{
> my %hash=('one'=>1, 'two'=>2, 'three'=>3);
> return %hash;
>}

The each() function expects its argument to start with %. As perlsub
explains, your function actually returns a list, not a hash; arrays and
hashes are "flattened" when returned from a function, just as they're
flattened when passed to a function. You can return a reference to a
hash instead and then dereference it in the caller:

while (($key, $value)= each( %{ mkhash() }))
{
print("$key = $value\n");
}

sub mkhash
{
 my %hash=('one'=>1, 'two'=>2, 'three'=>3);
 return \%hash;
}
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Re: Maill::Pop3Client - correction

2006-03-17 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
Chris wrote:

> Maybe the solution is to have a server in each country to distribute
> restricted modules to occupants only. There are a lot of companies (like
> Motorola for example) that limit access to software downloads based on the
> user's country of origin. I'm sure there are ways of obtaining this list
> from Arin.
> 
> Maybe something like...
> 
> us.ppm.activestate.com
> ca.ppm.activestate.com

Hi Chris,

One server set up in a country that didn't have export regulations on
cryptographic software would do it, actually.  IIRC, that's how the PGP
folks did it for a long time.

Cheers,

kjw
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RE: Maill::Pop3Client - correction

2006-03-17 Thread Chris

Chris wrote:
> Does anyone know if there's any legal issues with hosting encryption 
> modules in the US? I run a farm of uber fast servers that I could add 
> a PPM repository to for everyone.
> 
> - Chris

Hi Chris,

I haven't looked at the US situation in a few years, but I believe it hasn't
changed.  Strong encryption is considered "munitions" by the relevant
government agency, and requires a permit to export.  The set of rules it is
covered under is the broad-ranging Export Administration Regulations (EAR),
though on a quick look I can't tell which of the many rules covers it.

Cheers,

kjw

-

Maybe the solution is to have a server in each country to distribute
restricted modules to occupants only. There are a lot of companies (like
Motorola for example) that limit access to software downloads based on the
user's country of origin. I'm sure there are ways of obtaining this list
from Arin.

Maybe something like...

us.ppm.activestate.com
ca.ppm.activestate.com


- Chris


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Re: Maill::Pop3Client

2006-03-17 Thread Sisyphus

- Original Message - 
From: "Splinter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; "'Sisyphus'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Maill::Pop3Client


> Great!
>
>
>
> I've installed all three modules -
>
> 1)   Net::SSLeay
>
> 2)   IO::Socket::SSL
>
> 3)   Mail::POP3Client
>
>
>
> and everything connects ok. BUT, $pop->Count() everytime returns 0, even
> when there are new mails in my mailbox.
>
> Where is the shit?
>
>

Can you show us the code you're using ?

Don't show us actual username and password (or even the mail server name, if
you want).

Did you construct $pop as per the documentation:

 $pop = new Mail::POP3Client( USER => "me",
  PASSWORD => "mypassword",
  HOST => "pop3.do.main",
  USESSL   => true,
);

Cheers,
Rob



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Re: Maill::Pop3Client - correction

2006-03-17 Thread Kevin J. Woolley
Chris wrote:
> Does anyone know if there's any legal issues with hosting encryption modules
> in the US? I run a farm of uber fast servers that I could add a PPM
> repository to for everyone.
> 
> - Chris

Hi Chris,

I haven't looked at the US situation in a few years, but I believe it
hasn't changed.  Strong encryption is considered "munitions" by the
relevant government agency, and requires a permit to export.  The set of
rules it is covered under is the broad-ranging Export Administration
Regulations (EAR), though on a quick look I can't tell which of the many
rules covers it.

The alphabetical index
(http://www.access.gpo.gov/bis/ear/txt/indexccl.txt) does list the
following:

> Cryptanalytic equipment or devices, digital. . . . 5A002.a.2
> Cryptoanalytic equipment and components, n.e.s.. . . . 5A992
> Cryptographic equipment and components, n.e.s. . . . . 5A992
> Cryptography equipment or devices, digital . . . . 5A002.a.1
> Cryptography equipment or devices, analog. . . . . 5A002.a.3
> Cryptologic equipment, software for the development, production or use of5D992
> Cryptologic equipment and components, n.e.s. . . . . . 5A992
> Cryptologic equipment, technology for the development, production or use 
> of5E992

This might give you enough to go on to find the answer quickly, though.

Cheers,

kjw
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Re: Implementing or Emulating TSRs in Win32 Console Apps

2006-03-17 Thread Veli-Pekka Tätilä

Hi Chris,
and sorry for the delay.

Chris Wagner wrote:

U can do this by implementing ur own deceptively simple perl shell.  U can
set ur own single key commands, pass other commands off to cmd.exe 
Hey that's a great idea. I think this is the most straight forward solution 
particularly as I'm not really familiar with sockets or the select 
functions.



official perl shell out there that u could also modify.
print "Enter command: ";
while ($text = ) {
chomp $text;
last unless $text;
eval $text;
print "\n";
print "Enter command: ";
}
exit;
Thanks for the code. I think I've seen something similar in the context of 
the eval function. Is this shell really official in the sense of being 
included with ActiveState's Perl? I wish it would, kind of like Ruby's 
interactive irb shell.


It's no big deal really but I wonder why you use the marginally shorter 
forms u and ur in stead of you and your. U renders quite well with a speech 
synth here, but ur is pretty much indistinguishable from err, .


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Re: Maill::Pop3Client

2006-03-17 Thread Splinter








Great!

 

I’ve installed all three modules – 

1)   Net::SSLeay

2)   IO::Socket::SSL

3)   Mail::POP3Client

 

and everything connects ok. BUT, $pop->Count() everytime returns 0,
even when there are new mails in my mailbox.

Where
is the shit?






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Re: Need help with range operator

2006-03-17 Thread Craig Cardimon

Thanks for the replies, folks! I got all kinds of responses.

I've seen a "here's one way to do it," a "we could use more information
on what you're trying to do," and a "this is not what the range operator
was meant to do."

It's kind of fascinating, really. List members use perl for different
tasks, and our ideas vary a lot, it seems, on how perl should be used.

Keeps things from getting boring.

-- Craig



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RE: Maill::Pop3Client - correction

2006-03-17 Thread Chris
Does anyone know if there's any legal issues with hosting encryption modules
in the US? I run a farm of uber fast servers that I could add a PPM
repository to for everyone.

- Chris



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I wrote:
> ppm install http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/Net-SSLeay.ppd

it should be:
ppm install http://theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca/ppms/Net_SSLeay.ppd

(You need to replace the hyphen with an underscore.)

Cheers,
Rob
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Re: Hash return value

2006-03-17 Thread Chris Wagner
At 04:40 PM 3/16/2006 -0700, Edwards, Mark (CXO) wrote:
>The each function requires a hash as an argument.  I would think that a
>subroutine that returns a hash could be used as the argument, but it
>doesn't work.  Why?  Is my syntax wrong or is that just the way Larry
>made it?

U have to evaluate it in hash context.  This should work.
 
while (($key, $value)= each( %{&mkhash()} )) {
print("$key = $value\n");
}







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Re: Need help with range operator

2006-03-17 Thread Chris Wagner
At 03:36 PM 3/16/2006 -0500, Craig Cardimon wrote:
>I need to read a large text file line by line until a certain tag is
>found, say . This tag will exist on a line by itself. Then I need
>read in all subsequent lines, appending them to each other, until the 
>ending tag  is found, again on a line by itself.

That's not how the range operator was meant to be used.  Its left argument
must be something that can be incremented until it reaches the value of the
right argument.  What u need is a search loop.

$which = 0;
foreach $line (@lines) {
$state = 1 and next if substr $line, 0, length "" eq "";
$state = 0 and ++$which if substr $line, 0, length "" eq "";
$matches[$which] .= $line if $state == 1;
}

That will make each element of @matches a string that contains everything
within one tag.





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