Re: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
Christopher Taranto wrote:
Hi Ken,
Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 5:07:58 AM, you wrote:
LK> Thanks to Steven Manross, I'm a step further along in
LK> troubleshooting this. Using Steven's suggestion, I got the
LK> following from OLE->LastError: 'Win32::OLE(0.1403) error
LK> 0x80070005: "Access is denied"'. Does anyone out there know
LK> anything about how the Win2k scheduler accesses objects (and, more
LK> importantly, how to circumvent this problem)? As I stated
LK> earlier, the scheduled task is running under the same userid I use
LK> to log on when I successfully run my program at a command prompt.
[% snip %]
LK> I created a program using ActiveState's perl 5.8.4, compiled it using
LK> perlapp 5.3.0 and ran it on Windows 2000 Professional SP4 against
LK> Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). It runs properly both from a command
LK> prompt and as a scheduled task. I released it into production on
LK> Windows 2000 server SP4 using the identical version of Outlook 2000.
LK> Again, it runs great from a command prompt. When I run it as a
LK> scheduled task, however, it dies because it's not able to get the
LK> Outlook Application.
I also had problems on Win2k SP4 running Perl scripts via scheduler that
had worked fine from the command prompt.
I came to the conclusion that scheduler does not exactly simulate a dos
command prompt and things like automatically invoking perl by the suffix
.pl didn't work, and I suspect it doesn't use Path either. I had to set
the "start in" value to give it a kickoff point. You could try playing
with that.
LK>
LK> Here's the relevant code:
LK>
LK>
LK> Win32::OLE->Initialize(Win32::OLE::COINIT_OLEINITIALIZE);
LK> die Win32::OLE->LastError(),"\n" if Win32::OLE->LastError( );
LK> eval { $Outlook =
LK> Win32::OLE->GetActiveObject('Outlook.Application')
LK> };
LK> die "Outlook is not installed" if $@;
LK> unless (defined $Outlook) {
LK> $Outlook = Win32::OLE->new('Outlook.Application', sub
{$_[0]->>Quit;});
LK> or die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
LK> <=== dies here under Win2k srvr as a scheduled task
I'm not sure if this will help or solve your problem - but you could
give Outlook Redemption a look - http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/
"Outlook Redemption works around limitations imposed by the Outlook Security Patch
and Service Pack 2 of MS Office 98/2000 and Office 2002 and 2003 (which include Security
Patch) plus provides a number of objects and functions to work with properties and
functionality not exposed through the Outlook object model."
Good luck!
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Re[2]: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
Hi Ken,
Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 5:07:58 AM, you wrote:
LK> Thanks to Steven Manross, I'm a step further along in
LK> troubleshooting this. Using Steven's suggestion, I got the
LK> following from OLE->LastError: 'Win32::OLE(0.1403) error
LK> 0x80070005: "Access is denied"'. Does anyone out there know
LK> anything about how the Win2k scheduler accesses objects (and, more
LK> importantly, how to circumvent this problem)? As I stated
LK> earlier, the scheduled task is running under the same userid I use
LK> to log on when I successfully run my program at a command prompt.
[% snip %]
LK> I created a program using ActiveState's perl 5.8.4, compiled it using
LK> perlapp 5.3.0 and ran it on Windows 2000 Professional SP4 against
LK> Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). It runs properly both from a command
LK> prompt and as a scheduled task. I released it into production on
LK> Windows 2000 server SP4 using the identical version of Outlook 2000.
LK> Again, it runs great from a command prompt. When I run it as a
LK> scheduled task, however, it dies because it's not able to get the
LK> Outlook Application.
LK>
LK> Here's the relevant code:
LK>
LK>
LK> Win32::OLE->Initialize(Win32::OLE::COINIT_OLEINITIALIZE);
LK> die Win32::OLE->LastError(),"\n" if Win32::OLE->LastError( );
LK> eval { $Outlook =
LK> Win32::OLE->GetActiveObject('Outlook.Application')
LK> };
LK> die "Outlook is not installed" if $@;
LK> unless (defined $Outlook) {
LK> $Outlook = Win32::OLE->new('Outlook.Application', sub
{$_[0]->>Quit;});
LK> or die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
LK> <=== dies here under Win2k srvr as a scheduled task
I'm not sure if this will help or solve your problem - but you could
give Outlook Redemption a look - http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/
"Outlook Redemption works around limitations imposed by the Outlook Security
Patch and Service Pack 2 of MS Office 98/2000 and Office 2002 and 2003 (which
include Security Patch) plus provides a number of objects and functions to work
with properties and functionality not exposed through the Outlook object model."
Good luck!
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Re: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
On 1/4/06, LeFevre, Ken <> wrote:
> Thanks to Steven Manross, I'm a step further along in troubleshooting this.
> Using Steven's suggestion, I got the following from OLE->LastError:
> 'Win32::OLE(0.1403) error 0x80070005: "Access is denied"'. Does anyone out
> there know anything about how the Win2k scheduler accesses objects (and, more
> importantly, how to circumvent this problem)? As I stated earlier, the
> scheduled task is running under the same userid I use to log on when I
> successfully run my program at a command prompt.
>
> Ken
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Manross []
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:18 PM
> To: LeFevre, Ken;
> Subject: RE: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
>
>
> Replace :
>
> die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
>
> with
>
> open (FILE,">>c:\\outlookerror.txt");
> print FILE "Oops, cannot start Outlook\n".Win32::OLE->LastError();
> close (FILE);
> die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
>
> It will help refine what error the script is throwing (and refine the
> possible solutions to the problem).
>
> Steven
>
>
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of
> LeFevre, Ken
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:01 PM
> To:
> Subject: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
>
>
> I created a program using ActiveState's perl 5.8.4, compiled it using
> perlapp 5.3.0 and ran it on Windows 2000 Professional SP4 against
> Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). It runs properly both from a command
> prompt and as a scheduled task. I released it into production on
> Windows 2000 server SP4 using the identical version of Outlook 2000.
> Again, it runs great from a command prompt. When I run it as a
> scheduled task, however, it dies because it's not able to get the
> Outlook Application.
>
> Here's the relevant code:
>
>
>Win32::OLE->Initialize(Win32::OLE::COINIT_OLEINITIALIZE);
>die Win32::OLE->LastError(),"\n" if Win32::OLE->LastError( );
>eval { $Outlook = Win32::OLE->GetActiveObject('Outlook.Application')
> };
>die "Outlook is not installed" if $@;
>unless (defined $Outlook) {
>$Outlook = Win32::OLE->new('Outlook.Application', sub
> {$_[0]->Quit;});
>or die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
> <=== dies here under Win2k srvr as a scheduled task
>
> As best I can tell, Outlook is registered the same on both machines.
> The same dlls exist on both. I even set up the scheduled task to run
> under the same userid I used when logging on to the server to run the
> program from the command prompt. My theory is that there is some sort
> of permissions issue or a difference in the scheduled task environment
> between the two versions of the Win2k OS, but I'm not succeeded at
> finding the problem and how to resolve it.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any insight or assistance in getting this to
> run in the new environment.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
>
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Try going into Administrative Tools => Local Security Settings => User
Rights Assignment and experiment with the 'Log on as a batch job' and
'Log on as a service' settings.
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RE: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
Thanks to Steven Manross, I'm a step further along in troubleshooting this.
Using Steven's suggestion, I got the following from OLE->LastError:
'Win32::OLE(0.1403) error 0x80070005: "Access is denied"'. Does anyone out
there know anything about how the Win2k scheduler accesses objects (and, more
importantly, how to circumvent this problem)? As I stated earlier, the
scheduled task is running under the same userid I use to log on when I
successfully run my program at a command prompt.
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Steven Manross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 5:18 PM
To: LeFevre, Ken; perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com
Subject: RE: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
Replace :
die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
with
open (FILE,">>c:\\outlookerror.txt");
print FILE "Oops, cannot start Outlook\n".Win32::OLE->LastError();
close (FILE);
die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
It will help refine what error the script is throwing (and refine the
possible solutions to the problem).
Steven
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
LeFevre, Ken
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:01 PM
To: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com
Subject: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
I created a program using ActiveState's perl 5.8.4, compiled it using
perlapp 5.3.0 and ran it on Windows 2000 Professional SP4 against
Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). It runs properly both from a command
prompt and as a scheduled task. I released it into production on
Windows 2000 server SP4 using the identical version of Outlook 2000.
Again, it runs great from a command prompt. When I run it as a
scheduled task, however, it dies because it's not able to get the
Outlook Application.
Here's the relevant code:
Win32::OLE->Initialize(Win32::OLE::COINIT_OLEINITIALIZE);
die Win32::OLE->LastError(),"\n" if Win32::OLE->LastError( );
eval { $Outlook = Win32::OLE->GetActiveObject('Outlook.Application')
};
die "Outlook is not installed" if $@;
unless (defined $Outlook) {
$Outlook = Win32::OLE->new('Outlook.Application', sub
{$_[0]->Quit;});
or die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
<=== dies here under Win2k srvr as a scheduled task
As best I can tell, Outlook is registered the same on both machines.
The same dlls exist on both. I even set up the scheduled task to run
under the same userid I used when logging on to the server to run the
program from the command prompt. My theory is that there is some sort
of permissions issue or a difference in the scheduled task environment
between the two versions of the Win2k OS, but I'm not succeeded at
finding the problem and how to resolve it.
I would greatly appreciate any insight or assistance in getting this to
run in the new environment.
Thanks,
Ken
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RE: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
You can get around this popup box in Outlook XP with this "fix"
Actually it's a security setting that says that x user is allowed to run
programatically.. You'll need Exchange Admin rights to install it in a
Public Folder. So, this may or may not help you.
It's actually a security risk to enable this, but so is running an old
Outlook release, so choose your poison..
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;290499
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HA011362851033.aspx
http://download.microsoft.com/download/OfficeXPProf/Install/5.0.2920.0.1
/W98NT42KMe/EN-US/ADMPACK.EXE
I set it up once so I could help again if needed, but it's been a long
long time..
Steven
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Foo Ji-Haw
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 7:46 PM
To: LeFevre, Ken
Cc: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com
Subject: Re: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
LeFevre, Ken wrote:
> I created a program using ActiveState's perl 5.8.4, compiled it using
> perlapp 5.3.0 and ran it on Windows 2000 Professional SP4 against
> Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). It runs properly both from a command
> prompt and as a scheduled task. I released it into production on
> Windows 2000 server SP4 using the identical version of Outlook 2000.
> Again, it runs great from a command prompt. When I run it as a
> scheduled task, however, it dies because it's not able to get the
> Outlook Application.
Hi there,
I'm afraid I have no solution to your problem, but if you've found help,
please share with me, as I code to access Outlook as well.
One of the (unrelated) Outlook issues that I deal with, is that with the
latest Outlook, the user is prompted to grant access to the Perl
application, when the application starts. Some kind of security measure
on Microsoft's part, but it does not happen for Outlook 2000.
>
> Here's the relevant code:
>
>
> Win32::OLE->Initialize(Win32::OLE::COINIT_OLEINITIALIZE);
> die Win32::OLE->LastError(),"\n" if Win32::OLE->LastError( );
> eval { $Outlook =
> Win32::OLE->GetActiveObject('Outlook.Application') };
> die "Outlook is not installed" if $@;
> unless (defined $Outlook) {
> $Outlook = Win32::OLE->new('Outlook.Application', sub
> {$_[0]->Quit;});
> or die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
> <=== dies here under Win2k srvr as a scheduled
> task
>
> As best I can tell, Outlook is registered the same on both machines.
> The same dlls exist on both. I even set up the scheduled task to run
> under the same userid I used when logging on to the server to run the
> program from the command prompt. My theory is that there is some sort
> of permissions issue or a difference in the scheduled task environment
> between the two versions of the Win2k OS, but I'm not succeeded at
> finding the problem and how to resolve it.
>
> I would greatly appreciate any insight or assistance in getting this
> to run in the new environment.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
>
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Re: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
LeFevre, Ken wrote:
I created a program using ActiveState's perl 5.8.4, compiled it using
perlapp 5.3.0 and ran it on Windows 2000 Professional SP4 against
Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). It runs properly both from a command
prompt and as a scheduled task. I released it into production on
Windows 2000 server SP4 using the identical version of Outlook 2000.
Again, it runs great from a command prompt. When I run it as a
scheduled task, however, it dies because it's not able to get the
Outlook Application.
Hi there,
I'm afraid I have no solution to your problem, but if you've found help,
please share with me, as I code to access Outlook as well.
One of the (unrelated) Outlook issues that I deal with, is that with the
latest Outlook, the user is prompted to grant access to the Perl
application, when the application starts. Some kind of security measure
on Microsoft's part, but it does not happen for Outlook 2000.
Here's the relevant code:
Win32::OLE->Initialize(Win32::OLE::COINIT_OLEINITIALIZE);
die Win32::OLE->LastError(),"\n" if Win32::OLE->LastError( );
eval { $Outlook =
Win32::OLE->GetActiveObject('Outlook.Application') };
die "Outlook is not installed" if $@;
unless (defined $Outlook) {
$Outlook = Win32::OLE->new('Outlook.Application', sub
{$_[0]->Quit;});
or die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
<=== dies here under Win2k srvr as a scheduled task
As best I can tell, Outlook is registered the same on both machines.
The same dlls exist on both. I even set up the scheduled task to run
under the same userid I used when logging on to the server to run the
program from the command prompt. My theory is that there is some sort
of permissions issue or a difference in the scheduled task environment
between the two versions of the Win2k OS, but I'm not succeeded at
finding the problem and how to resolve it.
I would greatly appreciate any insight or assistance in getting this
to run in the new environment.
Thanks,
Ken
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RE: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
Replace :
die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
with
open (FILE,">>c:\\outlookerror.txt");
print FILE "Oops, cannot start Outlook\n".Win32::OLE->LastError();
close (FILE);
die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
It will help refine what error the script is throwing (and refine the
possible solutions to the problem).
Steven
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
LeFevre, Ken
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 1:01 PM
To: perl-win32-users@listserv.ActiveState.com
Subject: Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
I created a program using ActiveState's perl 5.8.4, compiled it using
perlapp 5.3.0 and ran it on Windows 2000 Professional SP4 against
Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). It runs properly both from a command
prompt and as a scheduled task. I released it into production on
Windows 2000 server SP4 using the identical version of Outlook 2000.
Again, it runs great from a command prompt. When I run it as a
scheduled task, however, it dies because it's not able to get the
Outlook Application.
Here's the relevant code:
Win32::OLE->Initialize(Win32::OLE::COINIT_OLEINITIALIZE);
die Win32::OLE->LastError(),"\n" if Win32::OLE->LastError( );
eval { $Outlook = Win32::OLE->GetActiveObject('Outlook.Application')
};
die "Outlook is not installed" if $@;
unless (defined $Outlook) {
$Outlook = Win32::OLE->new('Outlook.Application', sub
{$_[0]->Quit;});
or die "Oops, cannot start Outlook";
<=== dies here under Win2k srvr as a scheduled task
As best I can tell, Outlook is registered the same on both machines.
The same dlls exist on both. I even set up the scheduled task to run
under the same userid I used when logging on to the server to run the
program from the command prompt. My theory is that there is some sort
of permissions issue or a difference in the scheduled task environment
between the two versions of the Win2k OS, but I'm not succeeded at
finding the problem and how to resolve it.
I would greatly appreciate any insight or assistance in getting this to
run in the new environment.
Thanks,
Ken
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Win32::Ole (MAPI) and Win2K scheduler
I created a program
using ActiveState's perl 5.8.4, compiled it using perlapp 5.3.0 and ran it on
Windows 2000 Professional SP4 against Outlook 2000 SR-1 (9.0.0.3821). It
runs properly both from a command prompt and as a scheduled task. I
released it into production on Windows 2000 server SP4 using the identical
version of Outlook 2000. Again, it runs great from a command prompt.
When I run it as a scheduled task, however, it dies because it's not able to get
the Outlook Application.
Here's the relevant
code:
Win32::OLE->Initialize(Win32::OLE::COINIT_OLEINITIALIZE);
die Win32::OLE->LastError(),"\n" if Win32::OLE->LastError(
); eval { $Outlook =
Win32::OLE->GetActiveObject('Outlook.Application')
}; die "Outlook is not installed"
if $@; unless (defined $Outlook)
{ $Outlook =
Win32::OLE->new('Outlook.Application', sub
{$_[0]->Quit;});
or die "Oops, cannot start Outlook"; <=== dies here
under Win2k srvr as a scheduled task
As best I can
tell, Outlook is registered the same on both machines. The same dlls exist
on both. I even set up the scheduled task to run under the same userid I
used when logging on to the server to run the program from the command
prompt. My theory is that there is some sort of permissions issue or a
difference in the scheduled task environment between the two versions of the
Win2k OS, but I'm not succeeded at finding the problem and how to resolve
it.
I would greatly
appreciate any insight or assistance in getting this to run in the new
environment.
Thanks,
Ken
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