Re: perl 6 hosting?

2006-05-25 Thread Gabor Szabo

On 5/25/06, David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I might be able to host a virtual machine with perl6 on it and give out
accounts.  I need to think about how to stop people being naughty
though.


Probably the easy part is to to remove the most dangerous calls such as
eval and system and then chroot the users.

The hard part is to make sure they won't write code to exploit other sites or
create hug load on your machine...
... but if someone does it in Perl6 that might be a good sign of the
maturity of Pugs.

Ah and you could also declare that all the code uploaded to that
server is automatically copyright Perl Foundation and can have a
public log of it.

Gabor


Re[2]: perl 6 hosting?

2006-05-25 Thread Andrew Shitov
GS The hard part is to make sure they won't write code to exploit other sites 
or
GS create hug load on your machine...

Any idea of how to avoid endless loops? :-)

Restricting execution time?

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Re: perl 6 hosting?

2006-05-24 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 06:29:06PM +0100, Michael Mathews wrote:

 Um, yes anyone wanna work on a tryperl6 virtual shell?

I might be able to host a virtual machine with perl6 on it and give out
accounts.  I need to think about how to stop people being naughty
though.

-- 
David Cantrell | top google result for internet beard fetish club

Computer Science is about lofty design goals and careful algorithmic
optimisation.  Sysadminning is about cleaning up the resulting mess.


perl 6 hosting?

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Mathews

I realise its still very, very early days, but considering the growing
number of people who would enjoy just dabbling a little in perl6, it
seems unreasonable to expect that the average person would install
the many megabytes of beta (alpha?) software required, and keep it all
updated with the latest releases. However, if someone had already done
that, why not let folks log in remotely via shell accounts and try out
the latest version on that computer?

Okay, okay, I know there are a million security issues with that, but
maybe if the server were highly locked down and isolated, maybe wiped
clean regularly, and restricted in the necessary ways... Is this even
possible? I'm not a sys. admin, but I thought I'd throw that out
there. Any one think that would be useful and possible, and want to
suggest a way to proceed with that?

--michael
onperl.org


Re: perl 6 hosting?

2006-05-23 Thread Chris Yocum

That is an interesting idea but, as you say, fraught with security
problems.  Maybe we can find a team of people to create binaries on a
regular basis for most of the major platforms?  That would mitigate
the security concerns and allow people to run up-to-date stuff.

This is just a thought, however.

Chris

On 5/23/06, Michael Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I realise its still very, very early days, but considering the growing
number of people who would enjoy just dabbling a little in perl6, it
seems unreasonable to expect that the average person would install
the many megabytes of beta (alpha?) software required, and keep it all
updated with the latest releases. However, if someone had already done
that, why not let folks log in remotely via shell accounts and try out
the latest version on that computer?

Okay, okay, I know there are a million security issues with that, but
maybe if the server were highly locked down and isolated, maybe wiped
clean regularly, and restricted in the necessary ways... Is this even
possible? I'm not a sys. admin, but I thought I'd throw that out
there. Any one think that would be useful and possible, and want to
suggest a way to proceed with that?

--michael
onperl.org



Re: perl 6 hosting?

2006-05-23 Thread Andrew Shitov
 updated with the latest releases. However, if someone had already done
 that, why not let folks log in remotely via shell accounts and try out
 the latest version on that computer?

I have played with server-side Perl 6 m-m-m about two years ago:
http://real.perl6.ru/. Wokrs well since April 2004, even today ;-)

Can you imagine that Parrot 0.1.0 built for i386-freebsd lives there.

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Re: perl 6 hosting?

2006-05-23 Thread Randy W. Sims

Michael Mathews wrote:

I realise its still very, very early days, but considering the growing
number of people who would enjoy just dabbling a little in perl6, it
seems unreasonable to expect that the average person would install
the many megabytes of beta (alpha?) software required, and keep it all
updated with the latest releases. However, if someone had already done
that, why not let folks log in remotely via shell accounts and try out
the latest version on that computer?

Okay, okay, I know there are a million security issues with that, but
maybe if the server were highly locked down and isolated, maybe wiped
clean regularly, and restricted in the necessary ways... Is this even
possible? I'm not a sys. admin, but I thought I'd throw that out
there. Any one think that would be useful and possible, and want to
suggest a way to proceed with that?


Maybe something along the lines of http://tryruby.hobix.com/

Randy.



Re: perl 6 hosting?

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Mathews

Um, yes anyone wanna work on a tryperl6 virtual shell?

--michael
onperl.og

On 23/05/06, Randy W. Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Maybe something along the lines of http://tryruby.hobix.com/

Randy.