Re: Meditations on a Loop

2009-05-22 Thread Sartak
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:52 PM, John M. Dlugosz
2nb81l...@sneakemail.com wrote:
 That sounds like a circular reference problem.  If the dot is a simple multi
 sub and is expected to dispatch based on type (different types may have
 different dispatchers), what type are you keying off of to pick the
 standard dispatcher?  And how do you determine that without method calls?

I haven't been following Perl 6 design terribly closely, but I'll take
a shot at these two questions from what I know about OO design.

The standard dispatcher is associated with Perl 6's equivalent of Perl
5's UNIVERSAL (or CLOS's t, Java's java.lang.Object or whatever,
etc.). The superest superclass. A class would be able to say no no,
use this dispatcher instead, which would take effect for all of its
descendents (unless they too override dispatching).

There would be several behind-the-scenes method calls involved in
calling $object.foo. The first would be $object.HOW to get the
metaclass of $object. The metaclass would then perform many method
calls on itself and its associated behind-the-scenes objects in order
to dispatch the original method call of foo on $object.

The metaclass's own method calls would not be affected, since the
metaclass is (presumably) using the standard dispatch logic. Of
course, metaclasses would be able to define their own dispatch logic.
That would mean changing the metaclass's metaclass. Due to the layered
and recursive nature of metaobject protocols, it should all just work.
That's why MOPs are so nice.

Again, I must stress that I don't actually know how Perl 6 chose to do
this, but this is how it works in the MOP-empowered languages I've
looked at closely. :) I'd be more than happy to be corrected by
someone who knows how it does work.

Shawn


Re: xml and perl 6

2007-11-29 Thread Sartak
On 11/29/07, James Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I understand that there can be different distros customized to certain
 problem domains, but as explained I see XML as common to all those
 problem domains.

I have a fulltime Perl programming job. I also spend a lot of my free
time with Perl.

Thankfully, reading or writing XML is a part of neither.

Shawn