FYI: Ruby 1.6.0 - An object-oriented language for quick and easy programming

2000-09-19 Thread H . Merijn Brand

I don't like OOP, you folks obviously do. Maybe docs/specs/... are interesting
for you ...

Have fun.

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Subject: Ruby 1.6.0 - An object-oriented language for quick and easy programming
Date: 19 Sep 2000 09:58:15 GMT

 application: Ruby 1.6.0
  author: Yukihiro Matsumoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 license: GPL
category: Development/Languages
 urgency: medium

homepage: http://freshmeat.net/redir/homepage/915828413/
download: http://freshmeat.net/redir/download/915828413/

description:
Ruby is a language for quick and easy programming. Similar in scope to
Perl and Python, it has high-level data types, automatic memory
management, dynamic typing, a module system, exceptions, and a rich
standard library. What sets Ruby apart is a clean and consistent
language design where everything is an object. Other distinguishing
features are CLU-style iterators for loop abstraction, singleton
classes/methods and lexical closures.

Changes:
A major release. Numerous bugfixes have been added.

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Re: FYI: Ruby 1.6.0 - An object-oriented language for quick and easy programming

2000-09-19 Thread Nathan Wiger

 What sets Ruby apart is a clean and consistent
 language design where everything is an object.

I like this part. Assuming I ever finish my last RFC I'd like Perl to
have embedded objects as well. The difference being Perl's wouldn't get
in the way, unlike Python's.

Of particular interest seems to be this link:

   http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/compar.html

Which has a somewhat poignant analysis of Perl's OO:

   Ruby was a genuine easy-to-use object-oriented language from the
   beginning; whereas Perl's OOP features were added to non-OO Perl,
   so that these features are (unlike the rest of Perl) very clumsy
   and hard to use correctly and effectively. For many people and
   purposes, Ruby is a better OO Perl than Perl. 

And then there's the lexical variable issue too:

   The default variable scope rules for Ruby (default: local) are
   much better suited for medium-to-large scale programming tasks;
   no "my, my, my" proliferation is needed for safe Ruby programming

Food for though at least. 

-Nate



Re: FYI: Ruby 1.6.0 - An object-oriented language for quick and easy programming

2000-09-19 Thread Adam Turoff

On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 08:07:33AM -0700, Dave Storrs wrote:
 On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Nathan Wiger wrote:
  And then there's the lexical variable issue too:
  
 The default variable scope rules for Ruby (default: local) are
 much better suited for medium-to-large scale programming tasks;
 no "my, my, my" proliferation is needed for safe Ruby programming
 
   Actually, this is the bit that interests me.  Most times, when you
 create a variable, you *do* want local scope.  

Really?  You want a brand new $foo inside a while loop, distinct
from the one inside the surrounding sub?  That is lost when the while
loop terminates?

 I think I would be
 guardedly in favor of changing the default scope from global to local
 (although I have the feeling there is something I'm not considering). What
 does everyone else think?

Sounds like a really bad idea.  That's one of the reasons why people
tend to hate tcl: everything is 'upvar' this and 'upvar' that to go
up one level of scope.

Z.