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Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6
Thomas Wittek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An other acceptable solution would be to create a backwards compatible P6 CGI.pm and create a new Web.pm with an all new interface, like Mark suggested. But then this new module cannot profit of the popularity of the name CGI.pm and many people will say Ah, Perl6 web development is stuck at the 10 years old Perl5 CGI.pm interface. I'll use (python|ruby( on rails)?|.+). That would be sad. IMHO even Perl people like me will think Ah, Perl6 web development is stuck at the 10 years old Perl5 CGI.pm interface just *because* of the name, regardless of a changed internal api. I would strongly expect the CGI module to do the same as it did for the last 200 years and create another name for any new school web development. Catalyst, Jifty, Acme, Acyou, SillyIdol, WhatEver. The name CGI smells like, erm, yes, C...G...I. If RoR would have sold itself with CGI in its name, it hadn't been that successful. In mankind's history, everything *not* named CGI had a chance to success, even PHP. It will be impossible to resurrect a hype around the word CGI. Because of the word. Not the api. IMHO. Of course. :-) GreetinX Steffen -- Steffen Schwigon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dresden Perl Mongers http://dresden-pm.org/
Re: CGI Session management (was Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6)
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 13:31:55 -0700, Michael Snoyman wrote: I agree completely. In that vein, I think that one thing a lot of web developers would like to have available more easily would be session management. In PHP it's as simple as $_SESSION['key'] = 'value'. I understand that CGI.pm is a fundemantally different concept from PHP and that this can't be completely taken care of by the module. Still, if something could be written in, I think it would make many people's lives simpler. Please... no... There are *so* many ways to do session handling that lugging them all into CGI.pm will just make a mess. It'd work much better as mixin plugins of some sort. I'd be happy to discuss my conclusions from redesigning the Catalyst session handling, if you like. -- Yuval Kogman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nothingmuch.woobling.org 0xEBD27418 pgpW8iKrbFuzC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6
Steffen Schwigon schrieb: Thomas Wittek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An other acceptable solution would be to create a backwards compatible P6 CGI.pm and create a new Web.pm with an all new interface, like Mark suggested. I would strongly expect the CGI module to do the same as it did for the last 200 years and create another name for any new school web development. Catalyst, Jifty, Acme, Acyou, SillyIdol, WhatEver. So we might agree ;) Catalysy, Jifty [..] are all higher level complete frameworks. I used CGI.pm for rather lower level tasks (POST/GET-parsing, HTTP redirects, ...) than as a foundation to build complete applications (where the higher level framework come in). So I think that there should be a (well designed) module for those lower level (donkeywork) tasks and only for those (so definitely no HTML-generation...). Other frameworks (or simple CGI-scripts or even a backwards compatible CGI.pm) could be built upon this foundation. -Thomas
Re: the CGI.pm in Perl 6
Thomas Wittek [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An other acceptable solution would be to create a backwards compatible P6 CGI.pm and create a new Web.pm with an all new interface, like Mark suggested. My 0.02 ₪: CGI.pm will be better off redesigned and cleaned up, and for those wanting compatibility a module called CGI5.pm can be written. It will probably be very popular, like p5 regexes ...