Re: Perl as a better web language ?

2008-12-13 Thread Dan Stephenson
Wouldn't HTML::Mason ( or something like it ) be a better approach to
solving this problem in Perl6?  I'm a huge Mason fan and feel it answers the
use cases being stated here aptly.  Something like this could be included in
this "diamond" Perl6 distro...

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Timothy S. Nelson wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008, howard chen wrote:
>
>  Hello,
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Henk van Oers  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> It can be done as a library, take a look at Perl6 grammars.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It has been done for perl5. See PLP on CPAN.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sure there are many way to do this in Perl already.
>>
>> But better have a single, standard, and out-of-the-box solution.
>>
>> By making Perl a more developer friendly language to the web,
>> definitely it will be a new wave..
>>
>
>I agree, but I think there's a better way to go about it.
>
>My understanding is that Perl6 will not come with any modules at
> all, with the intent being that the Systems Administrator will them have to
> install some, rather than the current case where they install Perl, claim
> that they support Perl, and then never have the modules that you (ie. the
> customer) want.
>
>What I think is more likely to happen in reality is that people will
> make various Perl6 "distros", ie. the Perl6 core + whatever modules are
> suitable to the purpose.  So we could have, for example:
>
> Diamonds: Perl6 for the web distro (Web people make mony, buy diamonds)
> Hearts: Perl6 for bioinformatics distro (bioinformatics, heart, you get the
>idea :) )
> Clubs: Perl6 for systems administrators (club users, before they club you)
> Spades: Perl6 for gravediggers (??? :) )
>
>Naturally, the "Diamonds" mentioned above would include a particular
> templating system, some XML support, modules for various useful protocols,
> and the like.
>
>Having said all that, I think I'd be interested in seeing a core
> Templating module as the underlying module for all others (something with
> the functionality of Text::Template, but maybe a more powerful API), not
> just for use with the web, but for use in other contexts too (ie. the
> generation of config files from templates).
>
>I guess I can see the value in many of the existing templating
> systems, but would like to see a single one designed in a "postmodern"
> fashion that can accomodate the supporters of all existing templating
> systems.
>
>:)
>
>
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Re: Rakduo Logo Proposal

2009-03-18 Thread Dan Stephenson

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:37:18 -0400, Smylers  wrote:


Stephen Weeks writes:

That could cause some awkwardness in getting Perl 6 accepted by those
with different political persuasions.  Perl 6 has no political views
(well, outside the narrow field of programming language design, which
isn't considered a field of politics by most major parties), so it
wouldn't be beneficial to give the perception of any poliical links,
even inadvertently.



Is it possible you're looking kinda deeply into this?  I rather like it


Re: Logo considerations

2009-03-24 Thread Dan Stephenson

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:25:15 -0400, Daniel Ruoso  wrote:


are you suggesting that the cat should be eating a parrot in the rakudo
logo?


Haha... that's pretty funny.

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Re: YALI (yet another logo idea)

2009-03-24 Thread Dan Stephenson
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:17:56 -0400, Ross Kendall   
wrote:



I was thinking that a logo doesn't really need to incorporate a symbol
(e.g. camel, onion etc.), and that one of the more important aspects of
a logo is the typography.

Rather than ramble on with ideas, I decided to make something to look at:

http://www.rakudo.org/some-rakudo-logo-ideas

Also, I really think the services of a professional designer are
needed.  Is there any possibility of some funds being allocated to hire
one? (Who did the Parrot logo?)



A combination of 3, 5 and 7... I like the 'Rakudo' font used in 7 in  
particular.


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