Re: [pestlist] RE: Vikane and Talstar P interactions with historic clothing/textiles
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- I suggest you talk to Joe Perko at Rapid Refile, a company that does vacuum freeze-drying and other kinds of disaster mitigation. They have fabulous freezing capabilities, and everyone there is knowledgeable and a pleasure to work with. Their facility is in Pennsylvania under 2 hours from NYC. Phone: 877-59-RAPID. I am very much against using chemical pesticides in cases like this. No matter how sure you may be about safety, some of your users would no doubt be uncomfortable handling the material. These days, people have plenty of reason not to believe it when they're told that some chemical is safe. You absolutely cannot put yourself in a position where you use chemicals and don't tell anyone. IF then someone finds out, it will look like you were hiding something bad. Barbara Appelbaum On Jul 30, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Kaplan, Emily wrote: This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Hi, Freezing will be faster than Vikane or anoxia, and should be cheaper. Perhaps you should look into a freezer truck. It will be safer than Vikane if you have poor ventilation but a qualified exterminator should be making sure that there is efficient ventilation, in which case you should not have any residual sulfuryl fluoride. Studies on the effects of Vikane on proteinaceous collections materials were somewhat inconclusive. Freezing is ideal for collections like this. Best, Emily Emily Kaplan Conservator Smithsonian National Museum of the American Indian Cultural Resources Center 4220 Silver Hill Rd Suitland MD 20746 301.238.1418 fax 301.238.3201 kapl...@si.edu From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of Bloomfield, Nicole (US) Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:33 AM To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' Subject: [pestlist] Vikane and Talstar P interactions with historic clothing/textiles This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Hello, I am the manager of a collection of about 10,000 pieces of vintage clothing (mostly wool and fur/leather) that are infested with moths. I am looking into the possibility of a low temperature treatment (freezing) of the collection in the NYC area. Freezing the collection will definitely be time consuming and expensive, although I believe it is possible. That said, it is a working collection, meaning the vintage is used as reference material and in heavy circulation (like a library book); e.g. constantly being handled by people all day without gloves. Because so many people rely on it on a daily basis, I am getting pressure from above to fumigate the entire thing. The fumigant the exterminator would like to use is Vikane, and then they would like to clean the entire collection room with Talstar P. My questions to you all are: · Will Vikane cause damage or change the appearance of the collection? (I know that it likely will, especially because of the wool, but wanted to double check) · Is it safe to fumigate the clothing with Vikane and then return the items to immediate handling by people? · Is it safe for me to be handling a collection on a daily basis (50 hrs/week) that has been fumigated with Vikane? · Is Talstar P a good choice for cleaning the shelving, walls, nooks and crannies with? · Is it safe for me to be confined in a room with poor ventilation that has just been treated with Talstar P? I have read the MSDS sheets for the chemicals and the JAIC article about Vikane from 1990, but still feel uneasy about the toxicity of the fumigants/pesticides that they would like to use. I want to be armed with as much information as possible to make this decision. I know this is a lot to ask all at once, and thank you all in advance for any advice you can offer. Best regards, Nicole This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the
[pestlist] RE: Vikane and Talstar P interactions with historic clothing/textiles
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- When Wakefield museum's textile collection had moth we used a heat treatment called thermo ligium. It worked very well it is done by a German company who have a portable van that they will bring to site the RAF museum in Stafford UK also used the company you might be able to get the whole collection done in one load I needed 6 load each load took about 5 days we were able to hang costume on textile racks and just wheel it into the van or put open textile boxes in the van The advantage of thermo ligium over freezing is that it was less time consuming in the preparation I would certainly consider this treatment method Mary J Mary Macqueen ACR Museums Heritage Officer: Conservation Collections Wakefield Council Sport Culture WMDC Central Museum Store Milner Way OSSETT WF5 9JE jmmacqu...@wakefield.gov.ukmailto:jmmacqu...@wakefield.gov.uk phone01924 262717 mobile 07534714681 For further Information please visit: www.experiencewakefield.co.ukhttp://www.experiencewakefield.co.uk/ www.wakefield.gov.ukhttp://www.wakefield.gov.uk/ From: ad...@museumpests.net [mailto:ad...@museumpests.net] On Behalf Of Bloomfield, Nicole (US) Sent: 30 July 2012 15:33 To: 'pestlist@museumpests.net' Subject: [pestlist] Vikane and Talstar P interactions with historic clothing/textiles This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- Hello, I am the manager of a collection of about 10,000 pieces of vintage clothing (mostly wool and fur/leather) that are infested with moths. I am looking into the possibility of a low temperature treatment (freezing) of the collection in the NYC area. Freezing the collection will definitely be time consuming and expensive, although I believe it is possible. That said, it is a working collection, meaning the vintage is used as reference material and in heavy circulation (like a library book); e.g. constantly being handled by people all day without gloves. Because so many people rely on it on a daily basis, I am getting pressure from above to fumigate the entire thing. The fumigant the exterminator would like to use is Vikane, and then they would like to clean the entire collection room with Talstar P. My questions to you all are: * Will Vikane cause damage or change the appearance of the collection? (I know that it likely will, especially because of the wool, but wanted to double check) * Is it safe to fumigate the clothing with Vikane and then return the items to immediate handling by people? * Is it safe for me to be handling a collection on a daily basis (50 hrs/week) that has been fumigated with Vikane? * Is Talstar P a good choice for cleaning the shelving, walls, nooks and crannies with? * Is it safe for me to be confined in a room with poor ventilation that has just been treated with Talstar P? I have read the MSDS sheets for the chemicals and the JAIC article about Vikane from 1990, but still feel uneasy about the toxicity of the fumigants/pesticides that they would like to use. I want to be armed with as much information as possible to make this decision. I know this is a lot to ask all at once, and thank you all in advance for any advice you can offer. Best regards, Nicole [http://sports.ralphlauren.com/olympic.jpg]www.ralphlauren.com/sports Click herehttps://www.mailcontrol.com/sr/wQw0zmjPoHdJTZGyOCrrhg== to report this email as spam. This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender and delete the message from your system. -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.netmailto:pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: unsubscribe - no quotes please. You are receiving
[pestlist] RE: Vikane and Talstar P interactions with historic clothing/textiles
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[pestlist] RE: Vikane and Talstar P interactions with historic clothing/textiles
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Re: [pestlist] RE: Vikane and Talstar P interactions with historic clothing/textiles
This is a message from the Museumpests List. To post to this list send it as an email to pestlist@museumpests.net To unsubscribe please look at the footer of this email. --- This is the kind of situation were anoxia is an adequate desinfestations methodology. If it well planned, we may have a sequence of workflow such as: (1) anoxia disinfestation - (2) inspection - (3) cleaning - (4) storaging - this cycle may be repeated for small parts of the collection while the rest stays in anoxia atmosphere waiting. Our approach is that when it comes to large scale insect disinfestations treatments, during time is important, but effectiveness is the issue. Kind regards, -- Rui Marto Fonseca Gestor Produto / Product Manager Tlm: +351 917885010 *Perfil Facebook / Facebook Profile http://www.facebook.com/rui.fonseca.52 * *Perfil Linkedin / Linkedin Profile http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=12176568trk=tab_pro * *perfil twitter / twitter profile* https://twitter.com/#!/rmfonseca EXPM, Desinfestacao e Higienizacao, Lda *Equipamentos e Servicos para Preservacao e Conservacao de Acervos / Equipment Services for the Preservation and Maintenance of Collections* *Conheça o site EXPM! / Enter EXPM's WEBSITE!http://www.expm.com.pt/index.php?p=indexid_area=12 * *Visite-nos no FACEBOOK! / Visit EXPM's FACEBOOK page!*http://www.facebook.com/pages/EXPMLda-Desinfesta%C3%A7%C3%A3o-Anoxia/391533714204188?ref=tn_tnmn *Ligue-se a EXPM no linkedin! / Connect with EXPM on Linkedin!*http://www.linkedin.com/company/expm-lda-anoxia-disinfestations-systems *MORADA / ADRESS* *ESCRITORIO / OFFICE*: Rua dos Ciprestes, 48 - Ed. Office Estoril / 2765-623 Estoril - Portugal *Tel*: +351 214661910 / *Fax*: +351 214661523 / *Email*: rfons...@expm.com.pt *ARMAZEM / STOREHOUSE*: R. Fonte da Carreira, 350 - Armazem 10A - Mata Sete - Manique de Baixo - 2645-467 Alcabideche- Portugal - *Tel. Direto*: +351 210936238 -- To send an email to the list, send your msg to pestlist@museumpests.Net To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pestlist@museumpests.net and in the subject put: unsubscribe - no quotes please. You are receiving the Pestlist emails in standard mode. To change to the DIGEST mode send an email to imail...@museumpests.net with this command in the body: set mode digest pestlist Any problems email l...@collectionpests.com or l...@zaks.com
