Python 2.6 and deprecated modules

2009-07-13 Thread Lisandro Dalcin
Fedora 11 moved to Python 2.6. Now many Python stdlib modules are
deprecated (as part of the transition to Python 3.x series).

/u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/BuildSystem/config/compilers.py:7:
DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated
  import sets
/u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/PETSc/package.py:7:
DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead
  import md5
/u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/BuildSystem/script.py:101:
DeprecationWarning: The popen2 module is deprecated.  Use the
subprocess module.
  import popen2

We could take two approaches to remove these warnings (I bet all you
hate warnings as much as me):

1) Reimplement things using the modern API's, perhaps by using
conditional code depending on the Python version and/or using import
with try/except blocks. In particular, this will require:
a) use the builtin 'set' type (available since Python 2.4)
b) use the 'hashlib' module (available since Python 2.5)
c) moving from using 'peopen2' to 'subprocess' (BTW, available since
Python2.4) will likely remove the need to use 'select', which I
commented some time ago it is not supported (for pipes) in native
Windows Python (yes, some day I'll have some working code with the
native Windows Python).

2) Silent these warnings. I do not think these modules will be ever
removed from 2.x series, and porting the whole BuildSystem beast to
Python 3.0 is not going to be a 10-minutes task anyway.


I personally prefer (1) and volunteer to provide the fixes, even if
that is more work than (2). I would like to know your opinions before
start to work on this.


-- 
Lisandro Dalc?n
---
Centro Internacional de M?todos Computacionales en Ingenier?a (CIMEC)
Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnol?gico para la Industria Qu?mica (INTEC)
Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Cient?ficas y T?cnicas (CONICET)
PTLC - G?emes 3450, (3000) Santa Fe, Argentina
Tel/Fax: +54-(0)342-451.1594



Python 2.6 and deprecated modules

2009-07-13 Thread Matt Knepley
I like 1) as well. However someone needs to test the fixes on ancient  
RH python.

   Matt

 From the phone

On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Lisandro Dalcin dalcinl at gmail.com wrote:

 Fedora 11 moved to Python 2.6. Now many Python stdlib modules are
 deprecated (as part of the transition to Python 3.x series).

 /u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/BuildSystem/config/ 
 compilers.py:7:
 DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated
  import sets
 /u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/PETSc/package.py:7:
 DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead
  import md5
 /u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/BuildSystem/script.py:101:
 DeprecationWarning: The popen2 module is deprecated.  Use the
 subprocess module.
  import popen2

 We could take two approaches to remove these warnings (I bet all you
 hate warnings as much as me):

 1) Reimplement things using the modern API's, perhaps by using
 conditional code depending on the Python version and/or using import
 with try/except blocks. In particular, this will require:
 a) use the builtin 'set' type (available since Python 2.4)
 b) use the 'hashlib' module (available since Python 2.5)
 c) moving from using 'peopen2' to 'subprocess' (BTW, available since
 Python2.4) will likely remove the need to use 'select', which I
 commented some time ago it is not supported (for pipes) in native
 Windows Python (yes, some day I'll have some working code with the
 native Windows Python).

 2) Silent these warnings. I do not think these modules will be ever
 removed from 2.x series, and porting the whole BuildSystem beast to
 Python 3.0 is not going to be a 10-minutes task anyway.


 I personally prefer (1) and volunteer to provide the fixes, even if
 that is more work than (2). I would like to know your opinions before
 start to work on this.


 -- 
 Lisandro Dalc?n
 ---
 Centro Internacional de M?todos Computacionales en Ingenier?a (CIME 
 C)
 Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnol?gico para la Industria Qu?mica (INTE 
 C)
 Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Cient?ficas y T?cnicas (CONICET)
 PTLC - G?emes 3450, (3000) Santa Fe, Argentina
 Tel/Fax: +54-(0)342-451.1594



Python 2.6 and deprecated modules

2009-07-13 Thread Lisandro Dalcin
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Matt Knepleyknepley at gmail.com wrote:
 I like 1) as well. However someone needs to test the fixes on ancient RH
 python.


No problem, I have custom installs of old Python's starting from 2.3
and up to current SVN trunk (2.7)... Do you remember what version is
the ancient RH Python you are talking about?


 ?Matt

 From the phone

 On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Lisandro Dalcin dalcinl at gmail.com wrote:

 Fedora 11 moved to Python 2.6. Now many Python stdlib modules are
 deprecated (as part of the transition to Python 3.x series).

 /u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/BuildSystem/config/compilers.py:7:
 DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated
 ?import sets
 /u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/PETSc/package.py:7:
 DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead
 ?import md5
 /u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/BuildSystem/script.py:101:
 DeprecationWarning: The popen2 module is deprecated. ?Use the
 subprocess module.
 ?import popen2

 We could take two approaches to remove these warnings (I bet all you
 hate warnings as much as me):

 1) Reimplement things using the modern API's, perhaps by using
 conditional code depending on the Python version and/or using import
 with try/except blocks. In particular, this will require:
 a) use the builtin 'set' type (available since Python 2.4)
 b) use the 'hashlib' module (available since Python 2.5)
 c) moving from using 'peopen2' to 'subprocess' (BTW, available since
 Python2.4) will likely remove the need to use 'select', which I
 commented some time ago it is not supported (for pipes) in native
 Windows Python (yes, some day I'll have some working code with the
 native Windows Python).

 2) Silent these warnings. I do not think these modules will be ever
 removed from 2.x series, and porting the whole BuildSystem beast to
 Python 3.0 is not going to be a 10-minutes task anyway.


 I personally prefer (1) and volunteer to provide the fixes, even if
 that is more work than (2). I would like to know your opinions before
 start to work on this.


 --
 Lisandro Dalc?n
 ---
 Centro Internacional de M?todos Computacionales en Ingenier?a (CIMEC)
 Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnol?gico para la Industria Qu?mica (INTEC)
 Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Cient?ficas y T?cnicas (CONICET)
 PTLC - G?emes 3450, (3000) Santa Fe, Argentina
 Tel/Fax: +54-(0)342-451.1594




-- 
Lisandro Dalc?n
---
Centro Internacional de M?todos Computacionales en Ingenier?a (CIMEC)
Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnol?gico para la Industria Qu?mica (INTEC)
Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Cient?ficas y T?cnicas (CONICET)
PTLC - G?emes 3450, (3000) Santa Fe, Argentina
Tel/Fax: +54-(0)342-451.1594



Python 2.6 and deprecated modules

2009-07-13 Thread Matthew Knepley
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Lisandro Dalcin dalcinl at gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Matt Knepleyknepley at gmail.com wrote:
  I like 1) as well. However someone needs to test the fixes on ancient RH
  python.
 

 No problem, I have custom installs of old Python's starting from 2.3
 and up to current SVN trunk (2.7)... Do you remember what version is
 the ancient RH Python you are talking about?


I think 2.3 is alright. It still needs foo(object) and stuff.

  Matt


   Matt
 
  From the phone
 
  On Jul 13, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Lisandro Dalcin dalcinl at gmail.com wrote:
 
  Fedora 11 moved to Python 2.6. Now many Python stdlib modules are
  deprecated (as part of the transition to Python 3.x series).
 
 
 /u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/BuildSystem/config/compilers.py:7:
  DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated
   import sets
  /u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/PETSc/package.py:7:
  DeprecationWarning: the md5 module is deprecated; use hashlib instead
   import md5
  /u/dalcinl/Devel/PETSc/petsc-dev/config/BuildSystem/script.py:101:
  DeprecationWarning: The popen2 module is deprecated.  Use the
  subprocess module.
   import popen2
 
  We could take two approaches to remove these warnings (I bet all you
  hate warnings as much as me):
 
  1) Reimplement things using the modern API's, perhaps by using
  conditional code depending on the Python version and/or using import
  with try/except blocks. In particular, this will require:
  a) use the builtin 'set' type (available since Python 2.4)
  b) use the 'hashlib' module (available since Python 2.5)
  c) moving from using 'peopen2' to 'subprocess' (BTW, available since
  Python2.4) will likely remove the need to use 'select', which I
  commented some time ago it is not supported (for pipes) in native
  Windows Python (yes, some day I'll have some working code with the
  native Windows Python).
 
  2) Silent these warnings. I do not think these modules will be ever
  removed from 2.x series, and porting the whole BuildSystem beast to
  Python 3.0 is not going to be a 10-minutes task anyway.
 
 
  I personally prefer (1) and volunteer to provide the fixes, even if
  that is more work than (2). I would like to know your opinions before
  start to work on this.
 
 
  --
  Lisandro Dalc?n
  ---
  Centro Internacional de M?todos Computacionales en Ingenier?a (CIMEC)
  Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnol?gico para la Industria Qu?mica (INTEC)
  Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Cient?ficas y T?cnicas (CONICET)
  PTLC - G?emes 3450, (3000) Santa Fe, Argentina
  Tel/Fax: +54-(0)342-451.1594
 



 --
 Lisandro Dalc?n
 ---
 Centro Internacional de M?todos Computacionales en Ingenier?a (CIMEC)
 Instituto de Desarrollo Tecnol?gico para la Industria Qu?mica (INTEC)
 Consejo Nacional de Investigaciones Cient?ficas y T?cnicas (CONICET)
 PTLC - G?emes 3450, (3000) Santa Fe, Argentina
 Tel/Fax: +54-(0)342-451.1594




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