RE: directpc.com question... (deals with pf... )

2002-12-19 Thread Shawn Mitchell
Just wondering if anyone's ran into this before and has their IP blocks...

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From: jolan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:51 PM
To: Shawn Mitchell
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Subject: Re: directpc.com question... (deals with pf... )


On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:00:17PM -0600, Shawn Mitchell wrote:
 If the user wants to use their sat connection, you have to do one of two
 things.
 1) know their IP Addresses that they give to their users.
 2)  don't block spoofed packets and hope a hacker dosn't take over one of
 your customers machines/servers and turn it into a zombe...
 
 Does everyone understand how those one way sat connections works now?

I thought they had their own dial-up service to make this more
manageable, or at least a proxy of some sort.

Well, you have all the information on your end.  I don't see how we can
help you.

Good luck.

- jolan




RE: directpc.com question... (deals with pf... )

2002-12-18 Thread Eric Hays
 Anyone know what IP Addresses directpc.com uses?

Directpc.com209.61.131.171

Trying 209.61.131 at ARIN

OrgName:Rackspace.com 
OrgID:  RSPC

NetRange:   209.61.128.0 - 209.61.191.255 
CIDR:   209.61.128.0/18 
NetName:RSPC-NET-2
NetHandle:  NET-209-61-128-0-1
Parent: NET-209-0-0-0-0
NetType:Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS.RACKSPACE.COM
NameServer: NS2.RACKSPACE.COM
Comment:
RegDate:2000-06-05
Updated:2000-09-05

TechHandle: ZR9-ARIN
TechName:   Rackspace, com 
TechPhone:  +1-210-892-4000
TechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE45-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Abuse Desk 
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-210-892-4000
OrgAbuseEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OrgTechHandle: IPADM17-ARIN
OrgTechName:   IPADMIN 
OrgTechPhone:  +1-210-892-4000
OrgTechEmail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: directpc.com question... (deals with pf... )

2002-12-18 Thread jolan
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:09:15PM -0600, Shawn Mitchell wrote:
 That's why I'm blocking those Winblows ports...I know what they are..
 but it's just the pure number of full network scans attempted.

well, that's what worms do.  i can't say i'm surprised.
 
 I'm not talking about their website IP Address...   your correct in that
 they have a modem for upstream, and that dish for downstream.

i'm not talking about their website ip address either...
 
 If a packet with a source address that is not one of my IP Addresses or on
 RFC1918 tries to leave my internet interface... it's killed...  I do that on
 purpose as I don't want broadband users having their machines turned to
 zombies, or their 12 year old kid finding a cool script.

uh.  how does this tie in with direcpc users?  are direcpc users using
your dial-up service for their upstream?
 
 Their site say's Earthlink... but they say their an Ecorp company or
 something...

ecorp could be earthlink corporation...

 What happens if they are using RFC1918 addresses?  I've been seeing a LOT of
 10 dot traffic trying to exit... and also hit my DNS servers.

they should be using direcpc's dial-up service, not yours.

 If their using 10 dot addresses (which is stupid), I'm ok with allowing
 it... IF I know all the places that it's suppose to goto.

uh. how is it supposed to get delivered? most places drop packets
destined for private networks.

 It just pisses me off when you spend an hour on their tech support line, and
 they say We can't give you those addresses for security reasons  I'm just
 like.. ok.. my network.. I see all the traffic anyway...   After that, he
 kept telling me that No, we're not blocking anything  me: No, I need to
 know your IP Address's Blocks.  They'll be something like a 1.2.3.4/20 or
 something like that   him:  No, we're not blocking any ip addresses

if you see all the traffic, then do a lookup on arin.net to find the
blocks allocated to them..?

- jolan




Re: directpc.com question... (deals with pf... )

2002-12-18 Thread jolan
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 11:00:17PM -0600, Shawn Mitchell wrote:
 If the user wants to use their sat connection, you have to do one of two
 things.
 1) know their IP Addresses that they give to their users.
 2)  don't block spoofed packets and hope a hacker dosn't take over one of
 your customers machines/servers and turn it into a zombe...
 
 Does everyone understand how those one way sat connections works now?

I thought they had their own dial-up service to make this more
manageable, or at least a proxy of some sort.

Well, you have all the information on your end.  I don't see how we can
help you.

Good luck.

- jolan