Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime

[Dave Page]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 2:00 AM Anthony DeBarros 
wrote:

> Dave,
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page  wrote:
>
>>
>> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron)
>> to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to
>> offer builds for testing at:
>>
>>
> Been using this today on macOS Catalina. Very nice. No issues detected.
>

Great, thanks!


>
> Nice to have it as a separate app -- makes switching between pgAdmin and
> other tasks much easier.
>
> One thing I would love now is if Command-s would save a changed file
> that's open in the Query Tool. I tried looking in Preferences > Query Tool
> > Keyboard Shortcuts and seeing how to make that work, but was not
> successful.
>
>
Hmm, I'm surprised that's not implemented. Please log a feature request at
https://redmine.postgresql.org/projects/pgadmin4/issues/new

Thanks.

-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

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Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime

[Dave Page]

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:46 PM Jack Royal-Gordon  wrote:

> I’ve only just installed and started using the new version, but I love it.
> Especially that it’s in it’s own window instead of just another tab in the
> browser window. Kudos!
>

Thanks for the feedback :-)


>
> On Jan 21, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Dave Page  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 16:01, richard coleman 
> wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Sounds promising, can the new beta be installed alongside the existing
>> version?
>>
>
> Only on macOS, due to the way appbundles work.
>
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> rik.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page  wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process
>>> which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very
>>> early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and
>>> server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately
>>> we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues.
>>>
>>> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron)
>>> to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to
>>> offer builds for testing at:
>>>
>>> https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/
>>>
>>> There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and
>>> RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9,
>>> 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10.
>>>
>>> These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be
>>> released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support
>>> (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD
>>> tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please
>>> bear that in mind.
>>>
>>> We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the
>>> new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get
>>> prior to the release.
>>>
>>> Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support
>>> changes;
>>>
>>> - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds
>>> are deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported.
>>>
>>> - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all
>>> of the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it
>>> as well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be
>>> v4.29.
>>>
>>> - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop
>>> producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python
>>> modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be
>>> the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04.
>>>
>>> - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been
>>> added for the v4.30 release onwards.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>
>>> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>
>>> --
> --
> Dave Page
> https://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>
> EDB Postgres
> https://www.enterprisedb.com
>
>
>

-- 
Dave Page
Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
Twitter: @pgsnake

EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com

Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime

[Anthony DeBarros]

Dave,

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page  wrote:

>
> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron)
> to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to
> offer builds for testing at:
>
>
Been using this today on macOS Catalina. Very nice. No issues detected.

Nice to have it as a separate app -- makes switching between pgAdmin and
other tasks much easier.

One thing I would love now is if Command-s would save a changed file that's
open in the Query Tool. I tried looking in Preferences > Query Tool >
Keyboard Shortcuts and seeing how to make that work, but was not successful.

Anthony

Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime

[Jack Royal-Gordon]

I’ve only just installed and started using the new version, but I love it. 
Especially that it’s in it’s own window instead of just another tab in the 
browser window. Kudos!

> On Jan 21, 2021, at 12:29 PM, Dave Page  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 16:01, richard coleman  > wrote:
> Dave, 
> 
> Sounds promising, can the new beta be installed alongside the existing 
> version?
> 
> Only on macOS, due to the way appbundles work.
> 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> rik.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page  > wrote:
> All,
> 
> As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process which 
> runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very early 
> versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and server which 
> gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately we found that 
> the Qt browser components had performance issues.
> 
> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) to 
> allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to offer 
> builds for testing at:
> 
> https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/ 
> 
> 
> There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and RPM 
> and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9, 10 & 11 
> and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10.
> 
> These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be 
> released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support 
> (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD 
> tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please 
> bear that in mind.
> 
> We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the new 
> runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get prior to 
> the release.
> 
> Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support 
> changes;
> 
> - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are 
> deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported.
> 
> - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of the 
> packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as well; 
> the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29.
> 
> - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop 
> producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python 
> modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be the 
> last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04.
> 
> - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been added 
> for the v4.30 release onwards.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> -- 
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @pgsnake
> 
> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com 
> 
> -- 
> -- 
> Dave Page
> https://pgsnake.blogspot.com 
> 
> EDB Postgres
> https://www.enterprisedb.com 

Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime

[Doug Easterbrook]

I’cew got it installed on my mac.   I’ll use it and see what I notice.

Doug Easterbrook
Arts Management Systems Ltd.
mailto:d...@artsman.com
http://www.artsman.com
Phone (403) 650-1978

> On January 21, 2021, at 7:55 AM, Dave Page  wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process which 
> runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very early 
> versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and server which 
> gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately we found that 
> the Qt browser components had performance issues.
> 
> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron) to 
> allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to offer 
> builds for testing at:
> 
> https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/ 
> 
> 
> There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and RPM 
> and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9, 10 & 11 
> and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10.
> 
> These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be 
> released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support 
> (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD 
> tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please 
> bear that in mind.
> 
> We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the new 
> runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get prior to 
> the release.
> 
> Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support 
> changes;
> 
> - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are 
> deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported.
> 
> - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of the 
> packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as well; 
> the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29.
> 
> - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop 
> producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python 
> modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be the 
> last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04.
> 
> - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been added 
> for the v4.30 release onwards.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> -- 
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @pgsnake
> 
> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com 
> 

Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime

[Dave Page]

Hi

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 16:01, richard coleman 
wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Sounds promising, can the new beta be installed alongside the existing
> version?
>

Only on macOS, due to the way appbundles work.


> Thanks,
>
> rik.
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page  wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process
>> which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very
>> early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and
>> server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately
>> we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues.
>>
>> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron)
>> to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to
>> offer builds for testing at:
>>
>> https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/
>>
>> There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and
>> RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9,
>> 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10.
>>
>> These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be
>> released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support
>> (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD
>> tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please
>> bear that in mind.
>>
>> We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the
>> new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get
>> prior to the release.
>>
>> Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support
>> changes;
>>
>> - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are
>> deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported.
>>
>> - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of
>> the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as
>> well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29.
>>
>> - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop
>> producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python
>> modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be
>> the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04.
>>
>> - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been
>> added for the v4.30 release onwards.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> --
>> Dave Page
>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>
>> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>
>> --
-- 
Dave Page
https://pgsnake.blogspot.com

EDB Postgres
https://www.enterprisedb.com

Re: Testing required: pgAdmin 4 with new desktop runtime

[richard coleman]

Dave,

Sounds promising, can the new beta be installed alongside the existing
version?

Thanks,

rik.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:56 AM Dave Page  wrote:

> All,
>
> As you know, when run in Desktop mode, pgAdmin 4 uses a server process
> which runs all the time and opens a browser window to display the UI. Very
> early versions used a Qt based runtime that integrated the browser and
> server which gave a much more "normal" application feel, but unfortunately
> we found that the Qt browser components had performance issues.
>
> We've been working on a new runtime (based on NWjs, similar to Electron)
> to allow us to get rid of the separate server process, and I'm please to
> offer builds for testing at:
>
> https://developer.pgadmin.org/builds/nwjs-2021-01-21-1/
>
> There you'll find an installer for 64 bit Windows, a DMG for macOS, and
> RPM and DEB packages for Fedora 31, 32 & 33, RHEL/CentOS 7 & 8, Debian 9,
> 10 & 11 and Ubuntu 18.04, 20.04 and 20.10.
>
> These builds are based on development code currently in git that will be
> released as v4.30 next week. This includes phase 1 of our Kerberos support
> (for logging into pgAdmin, but *not* the database servers), and the new ERD
> tool. This code is still going through QA and final improvement, so please
> bear that in mind.
>
> We're aiming to release v5.0 of pgAdmin 4 in late February, based on the
> new runtime, so would appreciate as much help and feedback as we can get
> prior to the release.
>
> Whilst I'm writing, I'd also like to give an update on platform support
> changes;
>
> - As previously noted in release announcements, Windows 32 bit builds are
> deprecated. v4.29 will be the last 32 bit Windows build supported.
>
> - Canonical have dropped support for Ubuntu 19.10, and now removed all of
> the packages repositories. We have therefore had to drop support for it as
> well; the last supported version of pgAdmin on Ubuntu 19.10 will be v4.29.
>
> - Due to the age of the Python version it ships with, we've had to stop
> producing builds for Ubuntu 16.04 (some of the security related Python
> modules are no longer supported on older Python versions). v4.30 will be
> the last version supported on Ubuntu 16.04.
>
> - Builds for Ubuntu 20.10 and Debian 11 (Bullseye/testing) have been added
> for the v4.30 release onwards.
>
> Thank you!
>
> --
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @pgsnake
>
> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>
>