Re: [ADMIN] UUID generation functions

2008-06-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Dienstag, 3. Juni 2008 schrieb Hyatt, Gordon:
   http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/uuid-ossp.html
 
  My bad - just realised the OP most probably needs a Windows-compatible
  solution and uuid-ossp is not.

 Actually, I'm developing on Windows, but deploying on Linux (both the
 web-server and the DB server), so a solution that is independent of
 platform is the most desirable.  I was hoping that PG would have something
 to generate UUIDs internally.

It does.  Read the above link.

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Re: [ADMIN] UUID generation functions

2008-06-03 Thread Rommel the iCeMAn

 But 8.3 still does not generate UUIDs, only stores/compares them

This is true, however, only last week I completed a successful pg 8.3 
install and during the installation I was able to include UUID 
generation functions as an option. I now have 10 functions called 
uuid_something. The ones I use most begin with uuid_generate. I can 
call these functions from within my own stored procs.


Rommel the iCeMAn
Barbados, Caribbean.

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Re: [ADMIN] UUID generation functions

2008-06-03 Thread Hyatt, Gordon
Please see my comments in line.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:pgsql-admin-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Milen A. Radev
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 6:24 PM
 To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
 Subject: Re: [ADMIN] UUID generation functions
 
 Milen A. Radev написа:
  John DeSoi написа:
 
  On Jun 2, 2008, at 3:19 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote:
 
  Any chance of going to 8.3?
 
  http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/datatype-uuid.html
 
  But 8.3 still does not generate UUIDs, only stores/compares them. From
  the link above:
 
  PostgreSQL provides storage and comparison functions for UUIDs, but
  the core database does not include any function for generating UUIDs,
  because no single algorithm is well suited for every application.

As far as I can see, there are really only 2 types, either time-based or 
random.  I guess a third type could be one where 2 long integers are used to 
generate the UUID.

Would this really add that much code?  I haven't yet implemented such 
algorithms to know - I've simply used the underlying systems services when I 
needed UUIDs.

 
  For reasons mentioned by the other poster, it would be helpful if
  PostgreSQL could generate them. Is there really more than 2 or 3
  needed options where it would be huge code bloat to include sufficient
  alternatives?
 
  http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/uuid-ossp.html
 
 My bad - just realised the OP most probably needs a Windows-compatible
 solution and uuid-ossp is not.
 


Actually, I'm developing on Windows, but deploying on Linux (both the 
web-server and the DB server), so a solution that is independent of platform is 
the most desirable.  I was hoping that PG would have something to generate 
UUIDs internally.

If PG doesn't have the ability to generate UUIDs, I'll put the code in the 
web-server (tomcat) to do so.  I was hoping to have this functionality as close 
as possible to the persistence of the data (where rules of uniqueness and 
integrity can be more easily enforced).

Gord


 
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[ADMIN] UUID generation functions

2008-06-02 Thread Hyatt, Gordon
Sorry for the OT post, but does anyone know if there are any internal
UUID generation functions in pg?  I took a quick look at the 8.2 docs
and didn't find anything related.

I know I can spawn a call to the underlying system to get a UUID.  The
problem is that calling out to the system for this tends to lock one
into a specific O/S.  In the case of Linux, uuidgen is _usually_
available for this; on Windows, however, a custom app to call a specific
API would be necessary.

The idea I had was to call this internal UUID generation function in an
INSERT trigger to generate a unique, traceable that identifies a sample
as it traverses numerous information systems/databases.  

Thanks in advance,

Gord Hyatt


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Re: [ADMIN] UUID generation functions

2008-06-02 Thread Kevin Grittner
 On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at  1:52 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
Hyatt,
Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 does anyone know if there are any internal
 UUID generation functions in pg?  I took a quick look at the 8.2
docs
 and didn't find anything related.
 
Any chance of going to 8.3?
 
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/datatype-uuid.html
 
-Kevin


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Re: [ADMIN] UUID generation functions

2008-06-02 Thread Hyatt, Gordon

Thanks Kevin,

Not yet - the plan is to migrate later this year or early next year.
There are a number of systems that will be upgraded at that time.

Gord


 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Grittner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:19 PM
 To: Hyatt, Gordon; pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
 Subject: Re: [ADMIN] UUID generation functions
 
  On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at  1:52 PM, in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Hyatt,
 Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  does anyone know if there are any internal
  UUID generation functions in pg?  I took a quick look at the 8.2
 docs
  and didn't find anything related.
 
 Any chance of going to 8.3?
 
 http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/interactive/datatype-uuid.html
 
 -Kevin


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