Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-09-23 Thread Dave Page
2008/9/23 Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Gerd König wrote:
>>
>> a few months ago we started using Postgres on Opensuse10.3-64bit.
>> We installed Postgres 8.3.1 with the (at that time) latest available
>> rpm's.
>> But now Postgres' current version is 8.3.4 and I'm wondering why there
>> are no new rpm's for Opensuse ?!?!
>
> The answer is quite simply that no one is volunteering to do the work.

Oh, I thought you were looking after that build. If it's not being
maintained, we'll need to remove it from the download pages unless
someone else can volunteer?

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Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Riggs

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 09:06 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> 2008/9/23 Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Gerd König wrote:
> >>
> >> a few months ago we started using Postgres on Opensuse10.3-64bit.
> >> We installed Postgres 8.3.1 with the (at that time) latest available
> >> rpm's.
> >> But now Postgres' current version is 8.3.4 and I'm wondering why there
> >> are no new rpm's for Opensuse ?!?!
> >
> > The answer is quite simply that no one is volunteering to do the work.
> 
> Oh, I thought you were looking after that build. If it's not being
> maintained, we'll need to remove it from the download pages unless
> someone else can volunteer?

I'll look at doing that. We need the SUSE builds also.

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Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-09-23 Thread Dave Page
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Simon Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Oh, I thought you were looking after that build. If it's not being
>> maintained, we'll need to remove it from the download pages unless
>> someone else can volunteer?
>
> I'll look at doing that. We need the SUSE builds also.

Great, thanks Simon. If you can commit to ongoing maintenance then
we'll get you on the packagers list so you can get advance notice of
releases and having input on the scheduling details.

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Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Riggs

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 10:05 +0100, Dave Page wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Simon Riggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> Oh, I thought you were looking after that build. If it's not being
> >> maintained, we'll need to remove it from the download pages unless
> >> someone else can volunteer?
> >
> > I'll look at doing that. We need the SUSE builds also.
> 
> Great, thanks Simon. If you can commit to ongoing maintenance then
> we'll get you on the packagers list so you can get advance notice of
> releases and having input on the scheduling details.

Well, strangely, committing to ongoing maintenance will be easier than
doing the first one. ;-)

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Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-09-23 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
Hi,

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 09:49 +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
> I'll look at doing that. We need the SUSE builds also.

I actually built 8.3.4 on SLES 10.2 on..err..Friday, while building
Fedora/RH RPMs. 8.3.1 spec of SLES is broken IMHO, and it requires
special attention from someone who is experienced in packaging (me :-) )
and who is familiar with pg code..

I fixed spec file. The only remaining issue is libpgport.a. If someone
who is familiar to PG code can comment on how this file is built, I can
push that spec file to my repo, so that Simon or others can continue
maintaining it. That file is built on Fedora/RHEL, but I'm not sure why
SLES skips it. I need that file for Slony-I on SLES,since AFAICS Slony
version is 1.2.6 on SLES :-(

I don't have access to that SLES server. I'll ask my friend to post the
spec to me, and I'll let you know about the status.

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Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-09-23 Thread Simon Riggs

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 21:05 +0300, Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 09:49 +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:
> > I'll look at doing that. We need the SUSE builds also.
> 
> I actually built 8.3.4 on SLES 10.2 on..err..Friday, while building
> Fedora/RH RPMs. 8.3.1 spec of SLES is broken IMHO, and it requires
> special attention from someone who is experienced in packaging (me :-) )
> and who is familiar with pg code..
> 
> I fixed spec file. The only remaining issue is libpgport.a. If someone
> who is familiar to PG code can comment on how this file is built, I can
> push that spec file to my repo, so that Simon or others can continue
> maintaining it. That file is built on Fedora/RHEL, but I'm not sure why
> SLES skips it. I need that file for Slony-I on SLES,since AFAICS Slony
> version is 1.2.6 on SLES :-(
> 
> I don't have access to that SLES server. I'll ask my friend to post the
> spec to me, and I'll let you know about the status.

Having looked at where we are now, it's going to take more than a little
work to get everything in order. Peter had a good go at it, but that was
a few releases ago.

I've been wanting to make SUSE releases better for a few years now, so
am happy to take this on long term. It's not a snap decision since I
build on OpenSUSE daily, but from source, not RPMs. 

As you say, you're in a better position to sort out a stopgap in the
short term and I can then take on the task after feature freeze when
I'll have more time. In any case, we'll need to make them as consistent
as possible between different Linuxes so I'll be relying on your
packaging experience.

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Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut

Dave Page wrote:

2008/9/23 Peter Eisentraut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Gerd König wrote:

a few months ago we started using Postgres on Opensuse10.3-64bit.
We installed Postgres 8.3.1 with the (at that time) latest available
rpm's.
But now Postgres' current version is 8.3.4 and I'm wondering why there
are no new rpm's for Opensuse ?!?!

The answer is quite simply that no one is volunteering to do the work.


Oh, I thought you were looking after that build. If it's not being
maintained, we'll need to remove it from the download pages unless
someone else can volunteer?


I am looking after it, but I cannot guarantee real-time releases with 
the resources available to me.  Certainly, one or two more people 
joining the looking after would be welcome.  I did some work recently to 
put all the pieces in place, so at this time we basically only need to 
replace the tarballs and release once in a while.



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Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-09-23 Thread Peter Eisentraut

Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote:

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 09:49 +0100, Simon Riggs wrote:

I'll look at doing that. We need the SUSE builds also.


I actually built 8.3.4 on SLES 10.2 on..err..Friday, while building
Fedora/RH RPMs. 8.3.1 spec of SLES is broken IMHO, and it requires
special attention from someone who is experienced in packaging (me :-) )
and who is familiar with pg code..


Yeah, as you can see here

https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=server:database:postgresql

SLES builds have been broken for a while.  I have not analyzed that yet. 
 Bugs and patches welcome.


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Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-09-24 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
Hi Peter,

On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 23:09 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> SLES builds have been broken for a while.  I have not analyzed that
> yet. 
>   Bugs and patches welcome.

https://projects.commandprompt.com/public/pgcore/repo/rpm/suse/8.3/SLES-10/postgresql.spec

(it is using self-signed cert, so please ignore SSL warnings)

I applied a few cosmetic changes, too. This version builds on SLES 10.2
cleanly.

I also found the reason why libpgport.a is removed (see spec file for
that). If you don't have any objections, I'm inclined to remove that
part from spec, so that we can compile Slony-I, too.

This is not a very good spec file for me, but at least it compiles.

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Re: [GENERAL] [ADMIN] 8.3.4 rpms for Opensuse10.3 64bit

2008-10-01 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Dienstag, 23. September 2008 Simon Riggs wrote:
> maintaining postgreSQL

Thanks for your work Peter, I hope your updates will be found on 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/database:/postgresql/
also, where the "official" updates are.

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