Re: [ADMIN] PGDG RPMS and integer-datetimes support

2005-05-14 Thread S Murthy Kambhampaty
--- Devrim GUNDUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could you please tell us why integer datetimes
 should be enabled in our 
 RPMs by default?
 
 We are not sure that many people need it, also it's
 easy for someone to 
 add this support using the SRPMs provided.
 

Consistent precision through the range of allowed
values sceems a feature worth having.

http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2002-03/msg01038.php

I wonder why you are not sure that many people need
it.

Regards,
   Murthy



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Re: [ADMIN] PGDG RPMS and integer-datetimes support

2005-05-14 Thread Tom Lane
S Murthy Kambhampaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Consistent precision through the range of allowed
 values sceems a feature worth having.

 I wonder why you are not sure that many people need
 it.

Because almost nobody has complained about the lack of it.
(I'm talking about actual field experience of there being a
problem, not somebody objecting that it sounds like a
feature worth having.)

It should also be pointed out that we are still finding bugs in
the integer-datetimes code.  This is of course exactly because
it's not the default --- but I feel sure that the average user
who notices a difference at all, if we change the default,
will be much more likely to hit a bug than to benefit.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [ADMIN] PGDG RPMS and integer-datetimes support

2005-05-14 Thread S Murthy Kambhampaty
--- Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Because almost nobody has complained about the lack
 of it.
 (I'm talking about actual field experience of there
 being a
 problem, not somebody objecting that it sounds like
 a
 feature worth having.)
 
 It should also be pointed out that we are still
 finding bugs in
 the integer-datetimes code.  This is of course
 exactly because
 it's not the default --- but I feel sure that the
 average user
 who notices a difference at all, if we change the
 default,
 will be much more likely to hit a bug than to
 benefit.

It certainly did seem like a marginal improvement, but
an improvment nontheless, back when we deployed 7.4 (I
thing the feature was introduced in 7.3).  Now that
we've switched to FC3, it was a minor inconvenience to
have to rebuild the RPM just for this feature, and I
was wondering if there's been enough testing to make
it a default.  Your answer clearly is no.  Allright.

I wonder if the bugs you're finding are serious enough
to warrant dumping the data and restoring it to a
version without integer-datetimes?

Thanks,
   Murthy




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Re: [ADMIN] PGDG RPMS and integer-datetimes support

2005-04-07 Thread Devrim GUNDUZ
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Hi,
On Wed, 6 Apr 2005, S Murthy Kambhampaty wrote:
Can integer datetimes support be added to the PGDG
distributed RPMS for Fedora at the next version
requiring an initdb.
Could you please tell us why integer datetimes should be enabled in our 
RPMs by default?

We are not sure that many people need it, also it's easy for someone to 
add this support using the SRPMs provided.

Regards,
- --
Devrim GUNDUZ 
devrim~gunduz.org, devrim~PostgreSQL.org, devrim.gunduz~linux.org.tr
http://www.tdmsoft.com http://www.gunduz.org
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