Re: [BUGS] BUG #2781: database dump/restore problems

2006-11-28 Thread Thomas H.

regarding pg_dump: where there some changes from b3 to rc1 that would
explain the resulting rc1 pg_dump output (-c) being half as big as with 
b3?


No...

regards, tom lane



well, it was 300mb before rc1, and now its only 188mb. inbetween i did a 
vacuum full on one table. that shoulnd't affect backup size, should it? i'll 
restore one of the new backups later on to be sure all data is still there.


- thomas 




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[BUGS] BUG #2781: database dump/restore problems

2006-11-27 Thread Greg Peters

The following bug has been logged online:

Bug reference:  2781
Logged by:  Greg Peters
Email address:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PostgreSQL version: 8.1/8.2beta3
Operating system:   WInXP
Description:database dump/restore problems
Details: 

Hello,

I recently performed a database dump with 8.2b3 for a complete database. An
example of the SQL output for a single table is below:

CREATE TABLE admin_field_list (
key bigint NOT NULL,
field character varying(25) NOT NULL,
added_by character varying(25) NOT NULL,
add_date timestamp without time zone DEFAULT now() NOT NULL,
mod_date timestamp without time zone,
modified_by character varying(25)
);


ALTER TABLE public.admin_field_list OWNER TO root;

--
-- TOC entry 1351 (class 1259 OID 16425)
-- Dependencies: 1352 4
-- Name: admin_field_list_key_seq; Type: SEQUENCE; Schema: public; Owner:
root
--

CREATE SEQUENCE admin_field_list_key_seq
START WITH 1
INCREMENT BY 1
NO MAXVALUE
NO MINVALUE
CACHE 1;

As you can see, the primary key is exported as a bigint, with a separate
section for the sequence. This differs to the way 8.1 dumps the same table
below:

CREATE TABLE admin_field_list (
key bigserial NOT NULL,
field character varying(25) NOT NULL,
added_by character varying(25) NOT NULL,
add_date timestamp without time zone DEFAULT now() NOT NULL,
mod_date timestamp without time zone,
modified_by character varying(25)
);

I then tried to restore the DB dumped by 8.2b3 into 8.1, with no success. It
didn't like the sequence part. This probably isn't so much a bug, but more a
backwards compatibility issue. Also, it seems strange to make the newer
database dumps more verbose and complicated. Surely the simple bigserial
datatype is a better method, and easier to implement then the sequence
statements?

Regards,

Greg.

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #2781: database dump/restore problems

2006-11-27 Thread Tom Lane
Greg Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 As you can see, the primary key is exported as a bigint, with a separate
 section for the sequence. This differs to the way 8.1 dumps the same table
 below:

This is an intentional change that fixes a lot of corner cases such as
renamed sequences.  The former behavior looked simple, perhaps, but it
failed outright in too many scenarios.  See
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-committers/2006-08/msg00376.php
and preceding discussions in pgsql-hackers.

 I then tried to restore the DB dumped by 8.2b3 into 8.1, with no success. It
 didn't like the sequence part. This probably isn't so much a bug, but more a
 backwards compatibility issue.

We have never promised backward compatibility of pg_dump output to older
server versions.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #2781: database dump/restore problems

2006-11-27 Thread Thomas H.

We have never promised backward compatibility of pg_dump output to older
server versions.


regarding pg_dump: where there some changes from b3 to rc1 that would 
explain the resulting rc1 pg_dump output (-c) being half as big as with b3? 
i've rerun pg_dump several times with the same result, and no error 
messages.


- thomas



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