Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-28 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Craig Ringer
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 Alas, Process Explorer doesn't seem to work on Vista. MS think that Process
 monitor is a replacement, but it lacks all the handy detailed process
 introspection, thread control, etc that Process Explorer has.

 Frustrating.

Eh? Process Monitor certainly works on Vista (although I haven't used
it on SP1 yet). I used it extensively when trying to figure out a
rather nasty bug issue in our privilege-shedding code a while back.

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-28 Thread Craig Ringer

Dave Page wrote:

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Craig Ringer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Alas, Process Explorer doesn't seem to work on Vista. MS think that Process
monitor is a replacement, but it lacks all the handy detailed process
introspection, thread control, etc that Process Explorer has.

Frustrating.


Eh? Process Monitor certainly works on Vista (although I haven't used
it on SP1 yet). I used it extensively when trying to figure out a
rather nasty bug issue in our privilege-shedding code a while back.


Interesting. I've always had system stability problems after launching 
either it or filemon. I'm about to configure a clean Vista install (post 
hard disk failure) so I'll have to re-test. Perhaps there was a hook DLL 
or similar nastyness interfering.


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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-28 Thread Craig Ringer

Craig Ringer wrote:

Dave Page wrote:

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:26 PM, Craig Ringer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Alas, Process Explorer doesn't seem to work on Vista. MS think that 
Process

monitor is a replacement, but it lacks all the handy detailed process
introspection, thread control, etc that Process Explorer has.

Frustrating.


Eh? Process Monitor certainly works on Vista (although I haven't used
it on SP1 yet). I used it extensively when trying to figure out a
rather nasty bug issue in our privilege-shedding code a while back.


Interesting. I've always had system stability problems after launching 
either it or filemon. I'm about to configure a clean Vista install (post 
hard disk failure) so I'll have to re-test. Perhaps there was a hook DLL 
or similar nastyness interfering.


Sorry, I just re-read your mail and noticed you said process monitor, 
not explorer.


I've had issues with process *Explorer* on Vista. Process monitor works 
perfectly, but seems to lack some of the features of process explorer. 
This could have been system configuration specific, but I've seen enough 
reports to think it's probably not.


Anyway, this is way off topic.

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-28 Thread Dave Page
On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Craig Ringer
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 Craig Ringer wrote:


 Sorry, I just re-read your mail and noticed you said process monitor, not
 explorer.

I did mean Process Explorer though :-).

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-27 Thread Dave Page
2008/6/26 Vadim Karacharsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 No, only Program Files.
 And I tried to install pgsql 8.2 (I have installed it sooner on that machine 
 before OS reinstall) - the same error.
 May be problem in filesystem permissions?

It's possible. The fact that your running SP3 has also got me
wondering a little. I assume you do have write permissions on
C:\Program Files\PostgreSQL\8.3?

If you run from the base install directory with the following command,
do you get the same error?

bin\initdb -D data -E UTF-8 --no-locale


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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-27 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Vadim Karacharsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, that's solve the problem!

 Thank you, Dave very much!

Hmm, interesting. Now I just need to figure out why...

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-27 Thread Vadim Karacharsky

Yes, that's solve the problem!

Thank you, Dave very much!

Vadim


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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-27 Thread Craig Ringer

Dave Page wrote:

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Vadim Karacharsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes, that's solve the problem!

Thank you, Dave very much!


Hmm, interesting. Now I just need to figure out why...


Process Monitor might come in handy here. If Vadim was to use it to 
record a trace of a successful initdb and of a failed one, you'd have a 
bit more information about what is actually happening to work with.


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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-27 Thread Dave Page
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Craig Ringer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmm, interesting. Now I just need to figure out why...

 Process Monitor might come in handy here. If Vadim was to use it to record a
 trace of a successful initdb and of a failed one, you'd have a bit more
 information about what is actually happening to work with.

Yeah - unfortunately though recent experience with similar
hard-to-find bugs have not normally shown up in PM. They've been much
more subtle, usually requiring much poking around in Process Explorer
which is difficult to do via email.

If you can provide a Process Monitor trace of the failed initdb, it
would be useful to take a look Vadim - even if it just eliminates the
obvious problems.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx


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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-27 Thread Vadim Karacharsky

Okay,
I'l install PM and trace initdb today.

Vadim


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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-27 Thread Craig Ringer

Dave Page wrote:


Yeah - unfortunately though recent experience with similar
hard-to-find bugs have not normally shown up in PM. They've been much
more subtle, usually requiring much poking around in Process Explorer
which is difficult to do via email.


Alas, Process Explorer doesn't seem to work on Vista. MS think that 
Process monitor is a replacement, but it lacks all the handy detailed 
process introspection, thread control, etc that Process Explorer has.


Frustrating.

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-26 Thread Dave Page
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:39 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 creating subdirectories ... initdb: could not create directory C:/Program
 Files/PostgreSQL: File exists

I vaguely remember hearing of some weirdness like this on systems with
a file or directory called 'C:\Program'

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-26 Thread Vadim Karacharsky

Hello Dave!
As I mentioned I tried c:\progra~1\postg~1\8.3\data path too...
The same result.

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-26 Thread Dave Page
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Vadim Karacharsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Dave!
 As I mentioned I tried c:\progra~1\postg~1\8.3\data path too...
 The same result.

Right - but sooner or later that may get expanded to the full path
internally anyway. Do you have a file or directory called C:\Program?



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Re[2]: [BUGS] BUG #4267: initdb fails

2008-06-26 Thread Vadim Karacharsky
No, only Program Files.
And I tried to install pgsql 8.2 (I have installed it sooner on that machine 
before OS reinstall) - the same error.
May be problem in filesystem permissions?

Vadim


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