Re: [BUGS] BUG #8335: trim() un-document behaviour

2013-08-12 Thread Romain Billon-Grand
Finally could make it using
regexp_replace (my_field_to_trim, '.+my_triming_string' , '') for the leading 
case

regexp_replace (my_field_to_trim, 'my_triming_string(.+)' , '') for the 
trailing case

And both of them in this order a for the both one.
I don't know why, but  could not use '*?'
Since in no instance my_triming_string was at the extremlity of the sting, I 
did not need it, but I guess something like '(|.+)my_triming_string'could have 
worked




 De : Bruce Momjian [via PostgreSQL] ml-node+s1045698n5766983...@n5.nabble.com
À : Romain Billon-Grand romainbillongr...@yahoo.fr 
Envoyé le : Vendredi 9 août 2013 18h24
Objet : Re: BUG #8335: trim() un-document behaviour
 


On Fri, Aug  9, 2013 at 11:06:15AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: 

 Bruce Momjian [hidden email] writes: 
  The attached patch swaps the arguments in the parser, and allows your 
  expected behavior: 
 
 This patch is completely unsafe.  It will break stored rules, which may 
 contain calls using the existing argument order (which will be dumped 
 without any of the SQL-spec syntactic sugar).  To say nothing of existing 
 applications that may be relying on calling the underlying functions with 
 their existing argument order. 
 
 The inconsistency in argument order is unfortunate but we're long since 
 stuck with it, I'm afraid. 
Yes, I have thought about this some more and another problem is that 
rtrim/btrim/ltrim() use the source string first, so having trim() have 
the source string second when using a comma is very confusing, e.g.: 

        -- with patch 
        SELECT trim('x', 'xabcx'); 
         btrim 
        --- 
         abc 

        -- btrim 
        SELECT btrim('xabcx', 'x'); 
         btrim 
        --- 
         abc 

I think we can either document what we have, or remove the ability to 
use comma with trim().  If we go with documentation, it is going to look 
confusing as the optional modifier is going to be on the source string, 
e.g.: 

        SELECT trim(both 'xabcx', 'x'); 
         btrim 
        --- 
         abc 

We could modify the grammar to force the modifier on the second 
argument, but that is more parser states for limited value. 

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #8335: trim() un-document behaviour

2013-08-09 Thread Romain Billon-Grand
Running postgres 9.1.4 using pgAdmin3 on a macbook air intel OS 10.6

I just had this bug, using comma:

SELECT trim(trailing texte_natif , 'DATEDENAISSANCE' ) FROM CROP

returned the whole field, including the string 'DATEDENAISSANCE', but except
the very first character, the column being called rtrim.

Tryed to chang it to
SELECT trim(trailing texte_natif from 'DATEDENAISSANCE' ) FROM CROP

returned nothing ( as a dummy in postgres I can't say if it was null fields
or empty string...)


CROP.texte_natif is a quite long texte field,in which the STRING
'DATEDENAISSANCE can be present 0 to 3 times, and never before 20th
character

bests
Romain



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Re: [BUGS] BUG #8335: trim() un-document behaviour

2013-08-09 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes:
 The attached patch swaps the arguments in the parser, and allows your
 expected behavior:

This patch is completely unsafe.  It will break stored rules, which may
contain calls using the existing argument order (which will be dumped
without any of the SQL-spec syntactic sugar).  To say nothing of existing
applications that may be relying on calling the underlying functions with
their existing argument order.

The inconsistency in argument order is unfortunate but we're long since
stuck with it, I'm afraid.

regards, tom lane


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Re: [BUGS] BUG #8335: trim() un-document behaviour

2013-08-09 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Aug  9, 2013 at 11:06:15AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes:
  The attached patch swaps the arguments in the parser, and allows your
  expected behavior:
 
 This patch is completely unsafe.  It will break stored rules, which may
 contain calls using the existing argument order (which will be dumped
 without any of the SQL-spec syntactic sugar).  To say nothing of existing
 applications that may be relying on calling the underlying functions with
 their existing argument order.
 
 The inconsistency in argument order is unfortunate but we're long since
 stuck with it, I'm afraid.

Yes, I have thought about this some more and another problem is that
rtrim/btrim/ltrim() use the source string first, so having trim() have
the source string second when using a comma is very confusing, e.g.:

-- with patch
SELECT trim('x', 'xabcx');
 btrim
---
 abc

-- btrim
SELECT btrim('xabcx', 'x');
 btrim
---
 abc

I think we can either document what we have, or remove the ability to
use comma with trim().  If we go with documentation, it is going to look
confusing as the optional modifier is going to be on the source string,
e.g.:

SELECT trim(both 'xabcx', 'x');
 btrim
---
 abc

We could modify the grammar to force the modifier on the second
argument, but that is more parser states for limited value.

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Re: [BUGS] BUG #8335: trim() un-document behaviour

2013-08-07 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 02:23:10AM +, am...@amutu.com wrote:
 in the postgresql doc 9.4,I find the trim() function like this:
 
 
 trim([leading | trailing | both] [characters] from string)
 
 
 so the trim should be pass only one argument with some optional prefix --- 
 but I
 find the following calls with two argument is successfull but the results is
 unexpected and wired:
 
 
 ##first call
 postgres=# select trim(trailing '/, 'fasd/');
 rtrim
 --
 
 
 (1 row)
 -!!!note: it return titile is rtrim
 
 
 ## second call
 postgres=# select trim('/', 'fasd/')
 ;
 btrim
 -
 
 
 (1 row)
 -!!!note: it return titile is btrim
 
 
 it seems trim is transform to rtrim internal but the above call should
 return error or it may produce un-expect results

(I have cleaned up this posting because single-quotes were converted to
Unicode forward-backward quotes):

What is happening is that TRIM() is converted by the parser to calls to
base functions, e.g.

\df *trim*
  List of functions
   Schema   | Name  | Result data type | Argument data types |  Type
+---+--+-+
 pg_catalog | btrim | bytea| bytea, bytea| normal
 pg_catalog | btrim | text | text| normal
 pg_catalog | btrim | text | text, text  | normal
 pg_catalog | ltrim | text | text| normal
 pg_catalog | ltrim | text | text, text  | normal
 pg_catalog | rtrim | text | text| normal
 pg_catalog | rtrim | text | text, text  | normal

That is why the headings don't say 'trim', but 'btrim', or similar ---
not sure we can easily improve that, and you can change the label with
AS.

The larger problem is the use of ',' instead of FROM, and the backwards
interpretation of the arguments.  The query:

SELECT trim('/' FROM 'fasd/')

is internally converted to:

SELECT btrim('fasd/', '/')

Note the arguments are reversed.  The comma syntax does not reverse the
arguments:

SELECT trim('/', 'fasd/')

is internally converted to:

SELECT btrim('/', 'fasd/')

You can even use modifiers like TRAILING with comma syntax:

SELECT trim(TRAILING '/', 'fasd/');

and that uses 'rtrim', but of course the behavior is still reverse of
expected.

Basically the odd comma behavior is because without a FROM, the
arguments are passed directly to btrim/rtrim/ltrim, and these functions
take the origin string first, then the string of characters to remove. 
You are right this is undocumented.

The attached patch swaps the arguments in the parser, and allows your
expected behavior:

SELECT trim('x', 'xfasdx');
 btrim
---
 fasd

Another option would be to change the C API for the b/r/ltrim functions,
or disallow the use of the comma TRIM syntax in the parser.

I am a little worried people might be relying on the trim/comma syntax
somewhere.

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diff --git a/src/backend/parser/gram.y b/src/backend/parser/gram.y
new file mode 100644
index 22e82ba..8419559
*** a/src/backend/parser/gram.y
--- b/src/backend/parser/gram.y
*** substr_for: FOR a_expr{ $$ = $2;
*** 11993,11999 
  
  trim_list:	a_expr FROM expr_list	{ $$ = lappend($3, $1); }
  			| FROM expr_list		{ $$ = $2; }
! 			| expr_list{ $$ = $1; }
  		;
  
  in_expr:	select_with_parens
--- 11993,12000 
  
  trim_list:	a_expr FROM expr_list	{ $$ = lappend($3, $1); }
  			| FROM expr_list		{ $$ = $2; }
! 			| a_expr ',' a_expr		{ $$ = list_make2($3, $1); }
! 			| a_expr{ $$ = list_make1($1); }
  		;
  
  in_expr:	select_with_parens

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[BUGS] BUG #8335: trim() un-document behaviour

2013-07-25 Thread amutu
The following bug has been logged on the website:

Bug reference:  8335
Logged by:  Jov
Email address:  am...@amutu.com
PostgreSQL version: 9.2.4
Operating system:   suse 10 linux 64
Description:

in the postgresql doc 9.4,I find the trim() function like this:


trim([leading | trailing | both] [characters] from string)


so the trim should be pass only one argument with some optional prefix。but I
find the following calls with two argument is successfull but the results is
unexpected and wired:


##first call
postgres=# select trim(trailing ‘/’, ‘fasd/’);
rtrim
——-


(1 row)
-!!!note: it return titile is rtrim


## second call
postgres=# select trim(‘/’, ‘fasd/’)
;
btrim
——-


(1 row)
-!!!note: it return titile is btrim


it seems trim is transform to r、b、l trim internal,but the above call should
return error or it may produce un-expect results



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