Re: [GENERAL] Time problem again?

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Schuchardt
Title: Nachricht



No, not 
really

perhaps you can do 
a ORDER BY (oid || yourtimefield). So you have the RecordOrder in the way the 
records where inserted.

Daniel


I need to sort some data based on a Time 
  field and the times can cross both midnight and noon. As far as I can tell, 
  there is no way to solve this without also supplying a date or am I missing 
  something?Regards,BTJ 


Re: [GENERAL] Time problem again?

2003-09-29 Thread Bjørn T Johansen




Well, I don't.. But normal timespan is about 6-7 hours +- (so one can assume max timespan = 12 hours really...)


BTJ

On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:40, Richard Huxton wrote:

On Monday 29 September 2003 12:26, Bjrn T Johansen wrote:
 The problem is that I don't have such a period. I can have a select
 containing these data:

 2350
 0110
 0330

 which then should be sorted like that.

 And I can also have the following:

 1030
 1145
 1240

 (also sorted as shown...)

 the only thing I know for sure, is that the interval between the first
 record and the last, is always less than 24 hours...

And how do you know that the first example shouldn't have been
  0110
  0330
  2350





Re: [GENERAL] Time problem again?

2003-09-29 Thread Bjørn T Johansen
Title: Nachricht




Yes, I could do that... I was just hoping to catch the odd times when records aren't inserted in order


BTJ

On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:44, Daniel Schuchardt wrote:

No, not really

perhaps you can do a ORDER BY (oid || yourtimefield). So you have the RecordOrder in the way the records where inserted.

Daniel



I need to sort some data based on a Time field and the times can cross both midnight and noon. As far as I can tell, there is no way to solve this without also supplying a date or am I missing something?


Regards,

BTJ 






[GENERAL] Where are user-defined types stored/viewed

2003-09-29 Thread btober
After I execute a command like

CREATE TYPE employee_wage_journal_sum AS (supplier_pk integer,
employee_pk integer,
hourly_dollars double precision,
annual_dollars double precision);

where does this definition get stored, and what query can I run to get
teh definition back as output?

I don't see the new type show up anywhere in pgAdminII.

The new type DOES show up in the result when I run

select * from pg_type order by typname

but I see only the name itself (and a lot of *id columns that probably
reference something relevant), but I don't know how to get the actual
definition back so that I can use an existing type definition as the
basis for modification when application design changes are required.

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Re: [GENERAL] Time problem again?

2003-09-29 Thread Richard Huxton
On Monday 29 September 2003 12:47, Bjørn T Johansen wrote:
 Well, I don't.. But normal timespan is about 6-7 hours +- (so one can
 assume max timespan = 12 hours really...)

Well, if you don't know what order you want, how can you tell PG to show them 
in that order?

I think you might want to log a full timestamp by the sound of it. I'm not 
sure your information is well defined.
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Re: [GENERAL] CASE tools

2003-09-29 Thread Horak Daniel
 FYI I have found 2 CASE tools that support PostgreSQL
 
 CASE Studio 2
 http://www.casestudio.com/enu/products.aspx
 
 DDS-Lite
 http://www.dds-lite.com/
 
 However, they are both for Windows.
 
 Can you point me to others? Hopefully multi-platform ones.

Another one is at http://www.danny.cz/datadesigner.en.html. It has not
so many features and is still in development.


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Re: [GENERAL] downloading latest source from cvs

2003-09-29 Thread Relaxin

 Relaxin wrote:
  But how do you tell it that I only want what's tagged as WIN32_DEV?
 
  Thanks

Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I think you need -rWIN32_DEV

ok, I did as you suggested and I got only and everything that was tagged as
WIN32_DEV, but I still have the following errors when compiling using the
bcc32.mak file:

try to compile the libpq library with
bcc32.mak under bcb5, but have some problems when linked.
The problems are about :
1._pqGethostbyname
2._pqStrerror
can't referenced.



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[GENERAL] Edward

2003-09-29 Thread ejos
  Hi!, First i'm a beginner working with php. And i've a problem working
with that and postgresql of course, i cann't connect both.
  I've been working with debian sid, and like usually the webserver is
apache; the error is something like thist: error  cannot locale
host:localhost..., but i try to do this: # psql -h localhost -U xxx -p
5432 -d test  and  i make connection.

 In test.php, i change localhost by 127.0.0.1, and nothing, the same
error, and phpinfo() work.

   So is somebody help me. thanks!


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[GENERAL] numeric rounding

2003-09-29 Thread Bacuño
hey guys..need your help on this..
i have a plpgsql function where in i compute numeric values for my php scripts..
my problem is my function just won't round some numbers properly..
what i want it to do is like this.
example:
721.875 = 721.88721.865 = 721.87721.765 = 721.77721.775 = 721.78
here's my function which returns numeric(12,2): 
CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION fn_adjust_accum_dep(int4,int4,numeric(12,2)) RETURNS numeric(12,2) AS '
DECLARE
fxamid ALIAS FOR $1;-- life is in monthslife ALIAS FOR $2;acqamt ALIAS FOR $3;depmonth int4;depyear int4;depdate date;lastdepdate date;dyear int4;dmon int4;manth int4;manthlife int4;depexpense numeric(12,2);salvagevalue float4;BEGIN SELECT EXTRACT(month FROM fxam_acquisition_date), EXTRACT(year FROM fxam_acquisition_date), fxam_dep_date, fxam_salvage_value/100 INTO depmonth, depyear, lastdepdate, salvagevalue FROM fixed_asset_master WHERE fxam_id = fxamid;-- for Month of December IF (depmonth = 12) THEN--Next yeardepyear 
 :=
 depyear + 1;--January the following yeardepmonth := 1;ELSEdepmonth := depmonth + 1;END IF;-- first depreciation date of property based on acquisition datedepdate := depmonth || ''/1/'' || depyear;
-- RAISE NOTICE ''depdate = %'', depdate;
-- get number of month and years from first depreciation date to last depreciation dateSELECT EXTRACT(month FROM AGE(lastdepdate,depdate::DATE)), EXTRACT(year FROM AGE(lastdepdate,depdate::DATE)) INTO dmon,dyear;-- RAISE NOTICE ''dmon=%,dyear=%,depdate=%'',dmon,dyear,depdate;-- Number of months to depreciatemanth := (dyear * 12) + dmon;-- Number of months of estimated lifemanthlife := life;
-- Number of months to depreciate is greater than number of months of estimated life-- Only happens when property is encoded late and life is already consumed during first depreciation..IF ( dyear = 0 AND manth  manthlife ) THEN-- Monthly depreciation expense Multiplied by number of month since Acquisition date
depexpense := (acqamt - (acqamt * salvagevalue)) + 0.0001;
RAISE NOTICE ''manth = %  manthlife = %, depexpense=%'',manth, manthlife,depexpense;ELSE-- Monthly depreciation expense Multiplied by number of month since Acquisition date-- depexpense := ((acqamt - (acqamt * salvagevalue)) / life) * manth;depexpense := (((acqamt - (acqamt * salvagevalue)) / life) * manth) + 0.0001;
-- sample data :--depexpense := (((2750.00 - (2750.00 * 0.1)) / 24 ) * 7) + 0.0001-- returns 721.87-- should return 721.88 
-- RAISE NOTICE ''manth = %  manthlife = %, depexpense=%'',manth, manthlife,depexpense;
END IF;
RETURN depexpense; 
END;'LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';

This function is up and running but my boss is such a great debugger.. ;)
You can see I already added a value of 0.0001 to the computation but I also get the same results.. :(
I know that numeric data type automatically rounds off values but how come it's not returning the right values???
 
Marie Gezeala M. Bacuño II IS DepartmentMuramoto Audio-Visual Phils., Inc.MEPZ1, Lapu-Lapu City, Cebu, Philippines 6015
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Re: [GENERAL] Modification Dates

2003-09-29 Thread Sven Schwyn
Hi again

Got it, quite obvious too. The trigger has to be called BEFORE the 
UPDATE, not AFTER. (Hmmm, very obvious even.)

CREATE TRIGGER _modified BEFORE UPDATE ON any_table FOR EACH ROW 
EXECUTE PROCEDURE
touch();

That does the trick!

Greets,  -sven

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Re: [GENERAL] Rewriting pg_upgrade

2003-09-29 Thread Christopher Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) writes:
 Jim C. Nasby wrote:
 FWIW, FreeBSD just removed it (in the 5.x versions). Of course you can
 still easily install it from ports.

 Interesting.  Why would they remove it?

Because it's a REALLY BIG ball of mud to include as a core dependancy?

Don't get me wrong; I have several Emacs buffers presently open to
Perl programs; it's a _useful_ ball of mud.  But big ball of mud it
certainly is, and it seems unremarkable that there would be some
reluctance to be dependent on it.

There's a LOT of stuff going on with Perl (Parrot + Perl6), and for
the FreeBSD folk to be reluctant to contract to all that change
seems unsurprising.
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Re: [GENERAL] Modification Dates

2003-09-29 Thread Sven Schwyn
Hi Nigel

I suspect you're misunderstanding something about triggers, an on 
update
trigger setting a such a field to the current timestamp shouldn't be 
causing a
second update. You're actually doing an update statement within the 
trigger I
presume? That's not the way, just set NEW.modified to the value you 
want,
eg. the current timestamp.
I'm doing it this way but I've read somewhere that this causes a second 
UPDATE. If that's not the case, the better!

However, I seem to be missing something else. All my tables contain a 
column...

modified TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE NOT NULL DEFAULT NOW()

The following function exists...

CREATE FUNCTION touch() RETURNS OPAQUE AS 'BEGIN new.modified = NOW(); 
RETURN ne
w; END;' LANGUAGE 'plpgsql';

And all tables have the following trigger defined...

CREATE TRIGGER _modified AFTER UPDATE ON any_table FOR EACH ROW EXECUTE 
PROCEDURE
touch();

All this returned no errors. I do get a notice though:
NOTICE:  CreateTrigger: changing return type of function touch() from 
OPAQUE to TRIGGER

I had the impression that now the modified-column should be set to the 
NOW() whenever an UPDATE is made on the row. That's not the case, the 
value remains unchanged. What's wrong with this?

Your help is greatly apprechiated! -sven

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Re: [GENERAL] downloading latest source from cvs

2003-09-29 Thread Bruce Momjian
Relaxin wrote:
 
  Relaxin wrote:
   But how do you tell it that I only want what's tagged as WIN32_DEV?
  
   Thanks
 
 Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
 news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  I think you need -rWIN32_DEV
 
 ok, I did as you suggested and I got only and everything that was tagged as
 WIN32_DEV, but I still have the following errors when compiling using the
 bcc32.mak file:
 
 try to compile the libpq library with
 bcc32.mak under bcb5, but have some problems when linked.
 The problems are about :
 1._pqGethostbyname
 2._pqStrerror
 can't referenced.

Oh, WIN32_DEV is just for server Win32 development.  Beta3 or CVS
snapshot will give you a working win32 client end.

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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL SSL communication with SecureTcpClient (Ssl

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Lane
Kris Jurka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Angel Todorov wrote:
 : An error occurs while communicating with the remote host. ---
 Org.Mentalis.Security.Ssl.Shared.SslException: The server hello message
 uses a protocol that was not recognized.
 
 Do you have any idea what can be the reason? Thanks in advance.

 You are aware that the connection does not start as a SSL connection, but
 begins as a normal one and then switches over.

Specifically, you need to eat the initial S or N response byte from
the server before firing up the SSL startup handshake.

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Re: [GENERAL] Result set granularity..

2003-09-29 Thread Greg Stark

Short answer, no there's no trick to doing this in postgres like rownum. You
would have to either add a column with sequential or random keys and then
select on it, or else pull down all the rows and only process the ones you
want.

Rownum is handy though, I wonder how easy it would be to add it to postgres.


Rasmus Aveskogh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 SELECT column FROM table WHERE mod(rownum, 5) = 0;

Uhm. Does that actually work? I thought rownum only incremented for every row
actually returned. So that this would return one row and then stop returning
rows.

I would have thought you would have to use a subquery to get this to work
like:

SELECT * FROM (SELECT column, rownum AS n FROM table) WHERE mod(n,5)=0

 The query above would give me every fifth row of the original result set
 and would save me from sending the data over my database connection and do
 the lowering of the granularity in the application.

Also, in Oracle there's actually a SAMPLE keyword that you can put on a select
to tell oracle that you only need a sample. It's way more efficient than using
rownum because it skips whole blocks. Ie, the equivalent of above would be
'SAMPLE 20 PERCENT' or something like that, and it would read a whole block,
then skip 4 whole blocks.

However, for statistical purposes both of these techniques have downsides.
Consider the case where you're looking for the standard deviation of some
timing information and there's a spike every five minutes. The correlation
between the sampling and the event could create spurious results. You could
completely fail to see the events, or thing they are much worse than they are.
Or even that they're worse at some times of day when in fact they're
consistent.

Really what you want is to assign statistically random numbers, probably
floating point numbers, to each record, then read all records where those
numbers are in some range. Even that might not really be kosher for serious
statistics.

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[GENERAL] Seeking insight from heavy lifters

2003-09-29 Thread John Wells
A manager friend of mine sent me the following concern.  He's preparing to
shift to Postgresql from a proprietary DB and 4gl system:

---
To that end, I've also started studying up on Postgresql.  It seems to
have all the necessary features for a transaction heavy DB.  The recent
release is 7.3.  Of course, the proof will be in the pudding.  We
average 2.5 million transactions per day or 800 per second. 
Unfortunately, we would have no way of testing that until we committed to
getting the business logic moved over and had something to test it with. 
This is a bit of a catch 22 situation.  Just wished I knew of someone
locally who was running Postgresql in such a heavy environment.  I'd love
to find out how it performs for them. ---

While I have a lot of experience with PG, it's not really been in a heavy
processing environment.  Could I get some input to send him from anyone
out in the field using Postgres in a similar environment.

If PG isn't the best option here, what is?

Thanks very much for your input!

John




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Re: [GENERAL] downloading latest source from cvs

2003-09-29 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 10:57:20AM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
 Relaxin wrote:

  try to compile the libpq library with
  bcc32.mak under bcb5, but have some problems when linked.
 
 Oh, WIN32_DEV is just for server Win32 development.  Beta3 or CVS
 snapshot will give you a working win32 client end.

You can use

cvs update -r HEAD

to get the latest tree for testing, outside WIN32_DEV.

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Re: [GENERAL] numeric rounding

2003-09-29 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:47:05AM -0700, Gezeala 'Eyah' Bacuño II wrote:

 my problem is my function just won't round some numbers properly..
 what i want it to do is like this.
 
 example:
 
 721.875 = 721.88

a= select round(721.875, 2);
 round

 721.88
(1 row)

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Re: [GENERAL] Edward

2003-09-29 Thread Richard Huxton
On Monday 29 September 2003 14:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi!, First i'm a beginner working with php. And i've a problem working
 with that and postgresql of course, i cann't connect both.
   I've been working with debian sid, and like usually the webserver is
 apache; the error is something like thist: error  cannot locale
 host:localhost..., but i try to do this: # psql -h localhost -U xxx -p
 5432 -d test  and  i make connection.

  In test.php, i change localhost by 127.0.0.1, and nothing, the same
 error, and phpinfo() work.

Perhaps choose a more informative subject next time :-)

This is almost certainly a typing error in your PHP connection string. It 
should be something like:

$conn = pg_connect(host=localhost dbname=test user=test password=tpass);

If your connect string is of that type, please give the *exact* error message 
you receive.

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[GENERAL] Access - can't close Form

2003-09-29 Thread E. Zorn (RDG-rational) postsql

Hi,
i use Access as a frontend via ODBC to an Linux-based postgresql.

I have a problem in a form where I use a lot of subforms. In some
cases ( i couldn't detect when - but I really try to) the form and Access
hangs.

The only way to close the form is to close Access via cross (upper right
corner).
If I try then to view once again the form I get the following error message:
Sie konnen diese Aktion momentan nicht ausfuhren means : You counldn't do
this now.

Has anybody an idea - why this is hanging or where i can start to debug.

-Elmar




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Re: [GENERAL] Seeking insight from heavy lifters

2003-09-29 Thread Bruce Momjian

What are the transfering from, exactly?

---

John Wells wrote:
 A manager friend of mine sent me the following concern.  He's preparing to
 shift to Postgresql from a proprietary DB and 4gl system:
 
 ---
 To that end, I've also started studying up on Postgresql.  It seems to
 have all the necessary features for a transaction heavy DB.  The recent
 release is 7.3.  Of course, the proof will be in the pudding.  We
 average 2.5 million transactions per day or 800 per second. 
 Unfortunately, we would have no way of testing that until we committed to
 getting the business logic moved over and had something to test it with. 
 This is a bit of a catch 22 situation.  Just wished I knew of someone
 locally who was running Postgresql in such a heavy environment.  I'd love
 to find out how it performs for them. ---
 
 While I have a lot of experience with PG, it's not really been in a heavy
 processing environment.  Could I get some input to send him from anyone
 out in the field using Postgres in a similar environment.
 
 If PG isn't the best option here, what is?
 
 Thanks very much for your input!
 
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Re: [GENERAL] Where are user-defined types stored/viewed

2003-09-29 Thread Tom Lane
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 After I execute a command like
 CREATE TYPE employee_wage_journal_sum AS (supplier_pk integer,
 employee_pk integer,
 hourly_dollars double precision,
 annual_dollars double precision);

 I don't see the new type show up anywhere in pgAdminII.

Probably not.  Stand-alone composite types (like the above) are a new
feature in 7.3, and pgAdminII likely doesn't know about them.

You might try pgAdmin III, which just got out of beta I believe.

 but I see only the name itself (and a lot of *id columns that probably
 reference something relevant), but I don't know how to get the actual
 definition back so that I can use an existing type definition as the
 basis for modification when application design changes are required.

There's always pg_dump -s to extract such stuff.

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Re: [GENERAL] Modification Dates

2003-09-29 Thread Doug McNaught
Sven Schwyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 CREATE TRIGGER _modified AFTER UPDATE ON any_table FOR EACH ROW
 EXECUTE PROCEDURE
 touch();

You want BEFORE UPDATE here.  AFTER UPDATE happens, well, after the
update.  :)

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[GENERAL] Where is libpq++ on redhat 9?

2003-09-29 Thread Kolus Maximiliano
Title: Where is libpq++ on redhat 9?





Hello,


 I've installed redhat 9 on my box and postgresql (with it's -devel package) and found that it didn't contain libpq++. I tried a search on redhat and rpmfind with no luck (rpmfind found only suse packages).

 I know that I can download from gborg.org and compile it, but I'd prefeer the rpm packages. Does anyone knows where is it?




Re: [GENERAL] Seeking insight from heavy lifters

2003-09-29 Thread John Wells
Bruce,

A system called Progress, which is a 4GL/database combo I'm not really
that familiar with.

They're aware that Postgresql doesn't have a 4gl per se, but I think they
view the savings they'll gain by switching to an open solution as well
worth it.

Thanks,

John

Bruce Momjian said:

 What are the transfering from, exactly?

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Re: [GENERAL] numeric rounding

2003-09-29 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:47:05AM -0700, Gezeala 'Eyah' BacuXo II wrote:
 You can see I already added a value of 0.0001 to the computation but I also get 
 the same results.. :(

Why 0.0001? If you want to round to the second digit by cutting the
number you have to add 0.005.

Michael
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[GENERAL] Access - can't close Form

2003-09-29 Thread E. Zorn (RDG-rational)

Hi,
i use Access as a frontend via ODBC to an Linux-based postgresql.

I have a problem in a form where I use a lot of subforms. In some
cases ( i couldn't detect when - but I really try to) the form and Access
hangs.

The only way to close the form is to close Access via cross (upper right
corner).
If I try then to view once again the form I get the following error message:
Sie konnen diese Aktion momentan nicht ausfuhren means : You counldn't do
this now.

Has anybody an idea - why this is hanging or where i can start to debug.

-Elmar




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[GENERAL] Access - can't close Form

2003-09-29 Thread E. Zorn (blue2)
Hi,
i use Access as a frontend via ODBC to an Linux-based postgresql.

I have a problem in a form where I use a lot of subforms. In some
cases ( i couldn't detect when - but I really try to) the form and Access
hangs.

The only way to close the form is to close Access via cross (upper right
corner).
If I try then to view once again the form I get the following error message:
Sie konnen diese Aktion momentan nicht ausfuhren means : You counldn't do
this now.

Has anybody an idea - why this is hanging or where i can start to debug.

-Elmar




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[GENERAL] Seeking insight from heavy lifters

2003-09-29 Thread John Wells
A manager friend of mine sent me the following concern.  He's preparing to
shift to Postgresql from a proprietary DB and 4gl system:

---
To that end, I've also started studying up on Postgresql.  It seems to have
all the necessary features for a transaction heavy DB.  The recent release
is 7.3.  Of course, the proof will be in the pudding.  We average 2.5
million transactions per day or 800 per second.  Unfortunately, we would
have no way of testing that until we committed to getting the business logic
moved over and had something to test it with.  This is a bit of a catch 22
situation.  Just wished I knew of someone locally who was running Postgresql
in such a heavy environment.  I'd love to find out how it performs for them.
---

While I have a lot of experience with PG, it's not really been in a heavy
processing environment.  Could I get some input to send him from anyone
out in the field using Postgres in a similar environment.

If PG isn't the best option here, what is?

Thanks very much for your input!

John


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[GENERAL] Conditional row grained + FK dependency oriented lazy replication

2003-09-29 Thread Achilleus Mantzios

Hi,
first off, i broadcast my case to as many people as possible,
maybe off topic for many, but maybe as well of interest for some.
Also i speak sort of DBMirror terminology ( a great and simple tool).
The problem is as follows:
Tables must be replicated to remote sites (1 master, many slaves).
The tables are classified as
1) Non replicated (nothing is specified for them, and eventually nothing 
is done)
2) Replicated to all slaves
3) Conditionally replicated, so that a row is replicated only if it 
matches some criteria (usually a comparison of a column value against a 
remote site ID)
4) Implicitly replicated. This is the hard case. Nothing is explicitly
declared for those tables, but the necessity of replicating them
comes from the FK constraints that tables in case 3) point to.
The problem with those tables is that we cannot know in advance if any
future record in some table of case 3) will point to a record currently
getting inserted into the db, and also there is a need for accounting
info for those tables, since we want to know whether they got inserted
at a remote site or not.

Imagine we have a table parts with part 
numbers,descriptions,manuals,etc
Now we have lets say 1 master db in the computer center, and many slaves
for each retailer shop we have.
Each shop maintains an inventory of items,supplies,etc...
Each item has a FK to a part. (instance of a part).
Now we dont want the huge ammount of parts to be replicated
to each remote site, but only those parts, whose partno *will* be 
referenced by an item for a specific remote site.
(That is we want to lazilly simulate the actions of a replication trigger 
as if we
knew in advance that this part will be referenced by an item
in the remote site).

All i currently am aware off is DBMirror (i took a look at erserv,
which didnt seem that spectacular), and i'd like to know
if people have faced or solved this problem.

In asynchronous situations where bandwidth cost is of primary concern 
(e.g.dial-up through satellite), i think that replicating useless data
is a big loss.

Any comments?

Thanx.

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Achilleus Mantzios
S/W Engineer
IT dept
Dynacom Tankers Mngmt
Nikis 4, Glyfada
Athens 16610
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email:  achill ( at ) matrix ( dot ) gatewaynet ( dot ) com
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Re: [GENERAL] [SQL] Result set granularity..

2003-09-29 Thread scott.marlowe
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Rasmus Aveskogh wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 Since I went from Oracle to PostgreSQL I've been missing the invisable
 column 'rownum'. I often used it to lower the granularity of my data.
 For example, say I have a large table containing some sort of statistical
 data and want to plot a graph using it.
 If the graph is 600 pixels wide I might as well lower the granularity of
 my incoming data to 600 measure points before plotting.
 
 In Oracle I used to do this by using the modulus operator on the rownum
 column as a restriction.
 
 SELECT column FROM table WHERE mod(rownum, 5) = 0;
 
 The query above would give me every fifth row of the original result set
 and would save me from sending the data over my database connection and do
 the lowering of the granularity in the application.
 
 I have two questions, one dependent on the answer on the other one..
 
 1) Is it possible to achieve this any other _easy_ way?
 Perhaps it would be feasible to write a wrapper using a counter which
 makes the SELECT and then return every fifth row to the SELECT calling the
 wrapper. But then I assume the data still has to travel one step which
 puts on some overhead.

The standard trick in Postgresql is to create a temporary sequence and 
select that as well:

create temp sequence aaa;
postgres=# select *, nextval('aaa') from accounts;

to get a row number.  The sequence creation and use is pretty fast, and 
I've used it before.  

 
 2) Would it be possible to add one more limit argument to the non-standard
 set of LIMIT and OFFET - a 'SCALE n' or 'GRANUL n' argument which would
 return every n row of the initial result set. I think that would be
 gladly accepted for folks working with statistical data.

Using the same trick, you can get every 5th row like this:

select * from (select *, nextval('aaa') as row from accounts) as a where a.row%5=4;


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