Techdocs error (WAS: RE: [GENERAL] Notes on converting from MySQL 5.0.x to PostgreSQL 8.1.4)

2006-07-02 Thread Dave Page
Hmm, not good - I've forwarded this to the techdocs author.

Regards, Dave

-Original Message-
From: Jason McManus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dave Page dpage@vale-housing.co.uk
Cc: pgsql-general@postgresql.org pgsql-general@postgresql.org
Sent: 02/07/06 05:00
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Notes on converting from MySQL 5.0.x to PostgreSQL 8.1.4

Hi Dave,

 Documentation such as this can be added to the new techdocs area on the
 main site at http://www.postgresql.org/docs/techdocs under the relevant
 section (probably http://www.postgresql.org/docs/techdocs.3 in this
 case).

 Please note that the editting interface is still new and may still have
 a quirk or two...

Great, thank you for the pointer to the page.  However, I think I have
been bitten by one of the two quirks ;)  I managed to get through
editing and formatting of the document, but upon submission, it fails
to accept the document, stating that several properties are invalid
(errors at the bottom of this message).

I did not add any custom formatting, and only used the features and
controls available within the editing interface..  So, it seems at
this time, that I'll have to wait to post this until the form is
fixed, or possibly submit it in some other fashion..

Thank you to everyone else who offered corrections, also!  I knew
there would be a few, and I will incorporate them into the revision
before final submission.

Cheers,
-Jason

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Re: [GENERAL] How to Backup like in mysql or ms sql server

2006-07-02 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Uwe C. Schroeder wrote:
 You can technically just copy  paste the postgresql data directory IF YOU 
 SHUT DOWN THE POSTMASTER FIRST! Be aware that this will only work for the 
 same version of postgresql. Also: this is not a good way to do it and I'd 
 encourage you not to use this as general means of backup (it's ok if you want 
 to create a quick clone of an existing database on a second machine - 
 provided that the platform and postgresql version on there is identical to 
 the source).


Well, err. thats not completely true with current postgres versions:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/backup-online.html

...
 Is there any way to back-up database like mysql or sql server we just copy
 and paste. Or maybe there is any tools to copy database when the service is
 shutdown.

 Where is postgresql put teh database files?

Well, thats in the docs ;) (or see above)

btw, just copy and paste w/o preparation is
dangerous with the above databases too.

Regards
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Re: [GENERAL] different sort order in windows and linux version

2006-07-02 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sat, Jul 01, 2006 at 06:23:07PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Tomi NA [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Basically, it comes down to three possibilities, doesn't it:
  1.) use an existing library
  2.) write a pgsql specific implementation
  3.) forget about it and tend to other issues
 
  Personally, I don't really care if it's 1) or 2): I'm just afraid it's
  going to be 3).
  Is this a licencing issue (with regard to ICU beeing under the IBM
  public licence)?
 
 Licensing is a concern --- IBM's appears to be not quite BSD enough.
 Size and portability of the library are concerns.  Performance is a
 concern.  Whether the patch makes the library required or optional is
 a concern (if required, the portability issue becomes a whole lot more
 urgent).  Loss of existing functionality is a concern --- for instance,
 if the patch is such that UTF8 becomes the only supported server
 encoding, it'll probably be rejected forthwith.

Licence - It's the X/MIT licence, which is almost identical to the BSD
licence.

http://dev.icu-project.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/icu/license.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License

But I don't think anyone is actually considering importing ICU into the
postgres source tree, are they?

Size - I'm not sure this is relevent since I don't think we want to
incorporate it into postgres itself, just let people use it if they
have it. In any case though, the default dataset is 8MB. This includes
support for every locale and charset it knows about.

If you drop the conversion stuff (because postgres already has that)
you're down to about 4MB.

Since ICU supports userdefined tables, we could provide a single
cross-platform dataset and get the user's ICU library implementation to
use that.

Portability - ICU runs on all the platforms postgres does, AFAICS.

http://dev.icu-project.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/icu/readme.html?rev=release-3-4#HowToBuildSupported

Performance - ICU is approximatly four times faster than glibc for
collation. Even once you include keygen time (including conversion) it
comes out about 40% faster.

http://icu.sourceforge.net/charts/collation_icu4c_glibc.html

ICU is not slow.

 Well, the Japanese think that UTF8 is not the solution to all their
 worries, so they won't be happy with a UTF8-only solution.  Likewise,
 those of us who only need single-byte character sets won't be very happy
 with being forced to accept multi-byte processing overhead.

I've not quite understood the japenese problem with Unicode. My
understanding is that it was primarily due to widespread use of broken
converters.

In any case, ICU appears to beat glibc with single byte encodings, even
including the multi-byte conversion.

However, the most important point is that people have said they'll take
the speed hit if they could get consistant collation. For speed you can
always throw more hardware. But no amount of hardware will fix your
collation issues.

Have a nice day,
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Re: [GENERAL] different sort order in windows and linux version

2006-07-02 Thread Dragan Matic

Tomi NA wrote:

On 6/30/06, Martijn van Oosterhout kleptog@svana.org wrote:

On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:56:19AM +0200, Dragan Matic wrote:
 I have two postgres servers, one on linux (fedora core 5), one on
 windows, both are version 8.1.4.
 


Not beeing able to depend on the engine to consistently collate
strings as simple as the ones Dragan listed is closer to a serious bug
(non-deterministic behaviour in otherwise deterministic functions)
than a RFE, but is certainly nowhere near it's not our problem as it
regularly seems made up to be. The OS(es) simply and obviously
do(es)n't do a good enough job of it.

I was about to say the same thing. I think that the whole point in 
having a portable database system is that the data inside the database 
should behave the _same way_ no matter what operating system database is 
running on - client shouldn't be aware of the server OS. This is clearly 
not the case here. Furthermore, the same thing happens even with en_US 
(on Linux) and English_United States (on windows) collations selected, 
so it is definitely a serious issue with US collation also and not with 
some exotic collation orders only. I think that the only case where it 
doesn't happen is when C collation is selected. It might be 
interesting to see how this issue behaves on other operating systems.



In the past there have existed patches to allow postgres to use ICU for
locale support. It's supposedly not quite as fast, but you will be able
get consistant results across platforms.


Personally, I'd be perfectly happy with pgsql if I could choose to
make text operations up to 2-3x slower without the fuss of how it's
going to work on a certain platform, in each pgsql version.
Furthermore, compiling the server myself is not an option for live
usage: on my current project, I'm not even the one installing the
database servers...sending administrators a binary I configured and
compiled (on Windows, in this case!) and noone but me
tested...b...I get the shivers just thinking about it.
   Recompiling is not an option for me also, I mean I could do it for 
an in-house servers where I am in charge, but our application runs on 
many places and on many servers where recompiling postgres with some 
third-party patches is out of the question. I think the solution where 
postgres would be slower but behaved the same way on all supported 
operating systems would also be acceptable for most people.


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Re: [GENERAL] different sort order in windows and linux version

2006-07-02 Thread Karsten Hilbert
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 12:13:02PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:

 However, the most important point is that people have said they'll take
 the speed hit if they could get consistant collation.
I can second that.

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[GENERAL] pgsql user change to postgres

2006-07-02 Thread Joe

Hi,

I started using PostgreSQL (8.0) about a year ago on Windows.  Following 
the installation instructions, I created a 'postgres' user (BTW, this 
was based on the Short Version instructions for UNIX, i.e., adduser 
postgres --I'm not sure it this is made explicit elsewhere, even for UNIX).


I'm now migrating to FreeBSD and was surprised to find that the port 
used 'pgsql' as the user.  The maintainer said that was done to ensure 
backward compatibility because that *was* the original name.  Since I 
didn't need to be backward compatible (and my Windows dbs already used 
'postgres'), I tried to bypass that (sort of) requirement by renaming 
'pgsql' to 'postgres' (in the passwd file) and changing the 
postgresql_user variable used in the rc startup file.  That was OK until 
I tried to build 8.1.4_1.  I figured out how to tweak the build files to 
stick with 'postgres' but then I realized I'd have to patch them every 
time I'd fetch a new build, so I went back to 'pgsql'.


I'm curious about a few things.  How long ago was the 'pgsql' to 
'postgres' change (and maybe it would be helpful to know the rationale 
for the backward incompatible decision--I tried searching in the 
archives but 'pgsql' and 'postgres' are all too common)?  Is there any 
problem with using 'pgsql' vs. 'postgres' (and are there any plans to 
deprecate or disallow the former at some point)?  Are other UNIX/Linux 
ports in the same boat, or does any Linux port offer users a choice in 
this matter?  Would any change to the build/install procs have to be 
done through the current port maintainer or are they somewhere in the 
PostgreSQL source tree (and subject to standard submission/review 
procedures)?


Joe

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Re: [GENERAL] pgsql user change to postgres

2006-07-02 Thread chris smith

On 7/2/06, Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I started using PostgreSQL (8.0) about a year ago on Windows.  Following
the installation instructions, I created a 'postgres' user (BTW, this
was based on the Short Version instructions for UNIX, i.e., adduser
postgres --I'm not sure it this is made explicit elsewhere, even for UNIX).

I'm now migrating to FreeBSD and was surprised to find that the port
used 'pgsql' as the user.  The maintainer said that was done to ensure
backward compatibility because that *was* the original name.  Since I
didn't need to be backward compatible (and my Windows dbs already used
'postgres'), I tried to bypass that (sort of) requirement by renaming
'pgsql' to 'postgres' (in the passwd file) and changing the
postgresql_user variable used in the rc startup file.  That was OK until
I tried to build 8.1.4_1.  I figured out how to tweak the build files to
stick with 'postgres' but then I realized I'd have to patch them every
time I'd fetch a new build, so I went back to 'pgsql'.

I'm curious about a few things.  How long ago was the 'pgsql' to
'postgres' change (and maybe it would be helpful to know the rationale
for the backward incompatible decision--I tried searching in the
archives but 'pgsql' and 'postgres' are all too common)?  Is there any
problem with using 'pgsql' vs. 'postgres' (and are there any plans to
deprecate or disallow the former at some point)?  Are other UNIX/Linux
ports in the same boat, or does any Linux port offer users a choice in
this matter?  Would any change to the build/install procs have to be
done through the current port maintainer or are they somewhere in the
PostgreSQL source tree (and subject to standard submission/review
procedures)?


I *think* that's a bsd decision to change the name. All of the linux
systems I have used for the last 5-6 years have used 'postgres' as the
user.

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Re: [GENERAL] pgsql user change to postgres

2006-07-02 Thread Tom Lane
Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I'm now migrating to FreeBSD and was surprised to find that the port 
 used 'pgsql' as the user.  The maintainer said that was done to ensure 
 backward compatibility because that *was* the original name.

It's always been postgres, at least as far as the standard name of the
initial database superuser goes.  I see no recommendation of pgsql in
Postgres 4.2 for instance:

$ gzcat postgres-v4r2.tar.gz | grep -i pgsql | wc
0 0 0
$

Various ports have used pgsql in their preferred installation paths,
eg the Linux RPMs use /var/lib/pgsql/data as the preferred $PGDATA,
but this should generally be transparent to users of the database.
Changing the superuser name isn't transparent, though.

FreeBSD is out in left field here.  However, I don't see why you need to
alter the build to change this.  Just create a new user postgres and run
the initdb step as that user.  initdb uses the OS user name it's run as
to determine the initial superuser name.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] Notes on converting from MySQL 5.0.x to PostgreSQL

2006-07-02 Thread Dave Page
 

 -Original Message-
 From: David Fetter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 30 June 2006 18:30
 To: Dave Page
 Cc: Scott Marlowe; Jason McManus; pgsql general
 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Notes on converting from MySQL 5.0.x 
 to PostgreSQL
 
 Last I checked, pgAdmin 1.4 doesn't help setting up clusters, which is
 one of the major headaches of a Slony-I setup.  I also noticed that
 pgAdmin 1.6-to-be has at least some of those hooks.  Any ETA on that?

It certainly can setup a new cluster - the only feature we don't support
is failover because Andreas was never happy with the way it worked and
such a critical operation needs to be flawless.

That said, don't ask me how to setup a new cluster - I've never actually
done it myself (in pgAdmin).

Regards, Dave.

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Re: [GENERAL] pgsql user change to postgres

2006-07-02 Thread Joe

Tom Lane wrote:

FreeBSD is out in left field here.  However, I don't see why you need to
alter the build to change this.  Just create a new user postgres and run
the initdb step as that user.  initdb uses the OS user name it's run as
to determine the initial superuser name.


That's exactly what I did first, and as you say, it worked fine (at 
least I was able to create another user and another database).


It was when I tried starting PostgreSQL from boot, which requires adding 
postgresql_enable in /etc/rc.conf, that it didn't work.  I tracked 
that down to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/010.pgsql.sh which uses a 
postgresql_user variable defined as pgsql by the port.  And this in 
turn is driven by the Makefile and other files provided by the FreeBSD 
port.  As I mentioned, I could fix those references to 'pgsql' but then 
I'd have to patch them any time I fetched a port update.


So I guess the port procedures are not controlled by the Development Group?

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Re: [GENERAL] pgsql user change to postgres

2006-07-02 Thread Tom Lane
Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 It was when I tried starting PostgreSQL from boot, which requires adding 
 postgresql_enable in /etc/rc.conf, that it didn't work.  I tracked 
 that down to /usr/local/etc/rc.d/010.pgsql.sh which uses a 
 postgresql_user variable defined as pgsql by the port.  And this in 
 turn is driven by the Makefile and other files provided by the FreeBSD 
 port.  As I mentioned, I could fix those references to 'pgsql' but then 
 I'd have to patch them any time I fetched a port update.

 So I guess the port procedures are not controlled by the Development Group?

We can't dictate the contents of port-supplied files, if that's what you
mean.

Plan B is to leave the pgsql user alone and add another superuser named
postgres.  You can have more than one superuser ...

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] different sort order in windows and linux version

2006-07-02 Thread Agent M

On Jul 2, 2006, at 6:13 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:

But I don't think anyone is actually considering importing ICU into the
postgres source tree, are they?

Why not?


Size - I'm not sure this is relevent since I don't think we want to
incorporate it into postgres itself, just let people use it if they
have it. In any case though, the default dataset is 8MB. This includes
support for every locale and charset it knows about.

If you drop the conversion stuff (because postgres already has that)
you're down to about 4MB.
Why would you drop the ICU transcoding support instead of the existing 
postgres functions? Why the duplicated effort?




Well, the Japanese think that UTF8 is not the solution to all their
worries, so they won't be happy with a UTF8-only solution.  Likewise,
those of us who only need single-byte character sets won't be very 
happy

with being forced to accept multi-byte processing overhead.


I've not quite understood the japenese problem with Unicode. My
understanding is that it was primarily due to widespread use of broken
converters.


Certain Japanese characters cannot make a reliable round-trip through 
Unicode. ICU uses UTF-16 as its store, so the Japanese folks won't be 
happy with an ICU-only solution. However, it would still be of great 
benefit to allow ICU to handle as much as possible, leaving the string 
encodings to the encoding experts.


At the very least, it would be great to have ICU to handle encoding on 
a per-column basis (perhaps extending the text datatype with encoding 
info). Perhaps this would be a decent stopgap solution? The backend 
protocol would also need a version bump- currently, it converts all 
strings to a single encoding.


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[GENERAL] Default directory for postgres user?

2006-07-02 Thread Victor Escobar
What should the default directory for the postgres user be? I'm using 
OSX 10.4. Right now, the default directory is set to /dev/null.


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Re: [GENERAL] pgsql user change to postgres

2006-07-02 Thread Joe

Tom Lane wrote:

Plan B is to leave the pgsql user alone and add another superuser named
postgres.  You can have more than one superuser ...


Yes, that's what my hosting provider (hub.org, which also hosts 
postgresql.org) seems to have done.  This also avoids another minor 
problem:  initdb on UNIX appears to create a 'postgres' database 
regardless of who runs the procedure (aside from template0 and 
template1;  I don't have a 'postgres' database on Windows and since it's 
been a year I don't recall what the Windows initdb did).  So when the 
'pgsql' user invokes psql without specifying a database, there's no 
'pgsql' database to be found.


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Re: [GENERAL] Default directory for postgres user?

2006-07-02 Thread Agent M
The shell is probably /bin/false right? That indicates that the 
postgres user won't log in to an active session. If that's an issue, 
then you should change that to whatever you like (probably 
/usr/local/pgsql/).


On Jul 2, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Victor Escobar wrote:

What should the default directory for the postgres user be? I'm using 
OSX 10.4. Right now, the default directory is set to /dev/null.


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Re: [GENERAL] How to Backup like in mysql or ms sql server

2006-07-02 Thread Uwe C. Schroeder
On Sunday 02 July 2006 01:42, Tino Wildenhain wrote:
 Uwe C. Schroeder wrote:
  You can technically just copy  paste the postgresql data directory IF
  YOU SHUT DOWN THE POSTMASTER FIRST! Be aware that this will only work for
  the same version of postgresql. Also: this is not a good way to do it and
  I'd encourage you not to use this as general means of backup (it's ok if
  you want to create a quick clone of an existing database on a second
  machine - provided that the platform and postgresql version on there is
  identical to the source).

 Well, err. thats not completely true with current postgres versions:

 http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/backup-online.html

 ...


Ok, you're correct on that one. However I'd rather not encourage someone to 
mess with WAL and filesystem based backups when s/he hasn't even heard of 
pg_dump yet, simply because I can already see the next question popping 
up ... like in I had a failure and wanted to restore my backup, but 
everything is messed up now and I can't get it running - help please! :-)
With a standard pg_dump that won't happen, so it's IMHO the safest way to deal 
with the backup problem for a newbie.

On a side-note: that piece of documentation is pretty heavy reading and 
assumes quite some knowledge about how a DB system like postgresql works 
internally. For me it's always the least sophisticated approach that solves a 
given problem. The good old KISS principle applies again :-)

Uwe




  Is there any way to back-up database like mysql or sql server we just
  copy and paste. Or maybe there is any tools to copy database when the
  service is shutdown.
 
  Where is postgresql put teh database files?

 Well, thats in the docs ;) (or see above)

 btw, just copy and paste w/o preparation is
 dangerous with the above databases too.

 Regards
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[GENERAL] PostgreSQL or mySQL

2006-07-02 Thread Kirti S. Bajwa








Hello List:



I hope my question does not start war of the posts. This
question is genuine. Please answer objectively:



I am test setting a Master Server (MS) with CentOS 4.3, freeRADIUS,
DNS, Apache, (mySQL  PostgreeSQL), PHP, Postfix, etc. This Master Server will
have all the software I we need for our operation. We will copy MS to each
server and setup a load balancing servers.



I have very little knowledge of either PostgreeSQL or mySQL. Please
advise me as to which of these two software package to use? I need some
specific examples as to superiority of one package over the other. I prefer
using the package which has a goof GUI database design.



Please help. I am posting this message to both lists. I am specifically
interested in opinion of system analysts who have used both of these packages.



Thanks.



Kirti








Re: [GENERAL] Default directory for postgres user?

2006-07-02 Thread Niklas Johansson


On 2 jul 2006, at 18.29, Victor Escobar wrote:
What should the default directory for the postgres user be? I'm  
using OSX 10.4. Right now, the default directory is set to /dev/null.


I've set the home directory to /var/empty and the shell to /usr/bin/ 
false, like most of the other daemon users. /dev/null should be ok  
though.



Sincerely,

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[GENERAL] Permission denied: logfile

2006-07-02 Thread Victor Escobar

Hello,
 I'm getting the following error when I do this step:

/usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data logfile 21 

Exit 1: Permission denied: logfile 21 

I did a chown on /usr/local/pgsql/data and am running this as postgres.

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Re: [GENERAL] Permission denied: logfile

2006-07-02 Thread Rodrigo Gonzalez
Check where you are executing this.the user postgres does not have 
permission to write logfile in your current directory


Victor Escobar wrote:

Hello,
 I'm getting the following error when I do this step:

/usr/local/pgsql/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data logfile 21 

Exit 1: Permission denied: logfile 21 

I did a chown on /usr/local/pgsql/data and am running this as postgres.

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Re: [GENERAL] different sort order in windows and linux version

2006-07-02 Thread Tomi NA

On 7/2/06, Agent M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Certain Japanese characters cannot make a reliable round-trip through
Unicode. ICU uses UTF-16 as its store, so the Japanese folks won't be
happy with an ICU-only solution. However, it would still be of great


Could you explain what you mean and what's special with those characters?


benefit to allow ICU to handle as much as possible, leaving the string
encodings to the encoding experts.

At the very least, it would be great to have ICU to handle encoding on
a per-column basis (perhaps extending the text datatype with encoding
info). Perhaps this would be a decent stopgap solution? The backend
protocol would also need a version bump- currently, it converts all
strings to a single encoding.


Could you give an example of what that would look like in your opinion?
I was thinking more along the lines of a setting in pg_hba.conf where
the server uses or does not use something like ICU...at least as an
intermediate solution.
Adding a LOCALE clause to a column definition (similar to the
ENCODING clause of the CREATE DATABASE statement) would solve most
(not all) problems with a default locale.
There still might be some non-deterministic behaviour with operations
between strings in different locales but it's far from a showstopper.

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[GENERAL] libpq: bind message supplies 2 parameters, but prepared statement requires 1

2006-07-02 Thread Alexander Farber

Hello,

these 2 statements work fine for me on the psql-prompt:

punbb= select id, username, md5('deadbeef' || password) from users
where id = 7;
id | username |   md5
+--+--
 7 | Alex | b962415469222eeb31e739c3afbc8a4a
(1 row)

punbb= select username from users where id = 7 and md5('deadbeef' ||
password) = 'b962415469222eeb31e739c3afbc8a4a';
username
--
Alex
(1 row)

However when I try to execute the latter query by my C-program,
then it fails, saying that my bind command supplies 2 arguments
(yes, that's true), but the prepared statement requires 1 argument
(why 1? I don't understand). I have prepared a separate simple
test case, could someone please explain what am I doing wrong?

#include err.h
#include stdio.h
#include libpq-fe.h

#define DB_CONN_STR host=/var/www/tmp user=punbb dbname=punbb
#define SQL_FETCH_USERNAME  select username from users  \
   where id = $1 and md5('deadbeef' || password) = '$2'

int
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
   PGconn* conn;
   PGresult*   res;
   const char  *args[2];
   charusername[201];

   if ((conn = PQconnectdb(DB_CONN_STR)) == NULL)
   err(1, Connect to '%s' failed: out of memory, DB_CONN_STR);

   if (PQstatus(conn) != CONNECTION_OK)
   err(1, Connect to '%s' failed: %s,
   DB_CONN_STR, PQerrorMessage(conn));

   if ((res = PQprepare(conn, sql_fetch_username,
   SQL_FETCH_USERNAME, 2, NULL)) == NULL)
   err(1, Preparing statement '%s' failed: out of memory,
   SQL_FETCH_USERNAME);

   if (PQresultStatus(res) != PGRES_COMMAND_OK)
   err(1, Preparing statement '%s' failed: %s,
SQL_FETCH_USERNAME, PQerrorMessage(conn));

   PQclear(res);

   args[0] = 7;
   args[1] = b962415469222eeb31e739c3afbc8a4a;

   if ((res = PQexecPrepared(conn, sql_fetch_username,
   2, args, NULL, NULL, 0)) == NULL)
   err(1, Executing statement '%s' failed: out of memory,
   SQL_FETCH_USERNAME);

   if (PQresultStatus(res) != PGRES_TUPLES_OK)
   err(1, Executing statement '%s' failed: %s,
   SQL_FETCH_USERNAME, PQerrorMessage(conn));
   PQclear(res);

   PQfinish(conn);
   return 0;
}

And here is the error message I get:

laptop72:src {541} ./fetch-user
fetch-user: Executing statement 'select username from users where id =
$1 and md5('deadbeef' || password) = '$2'' failed: ERROR:  bind
message supplies 2 parameters, but prepared statement
sql_fetch_username requires 1
: No such file or directory

Thank you
Alex

PS: Using Postgresql 8.1.0 (from packages) on OpenBSD/386 -current

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Re: [GENERAL] different sort order in windows and linux version

2006-07-02 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 12:25:43PM -0400, Agent M wrote:
 On Jul 2, 2006, at 6:13 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
 But I don't think anyone is actually considering importing ICU into the
 postgres source tree, are they?
 Why not?

Because it's a project of similar size to postgres and probably nearly
as old and I don't think anyone here actually wants to maintain it.

I mean, we could incorporate the source for readline, openssl,
kerberos, the C library but why. That project has maintainers already
and we only wan to use it, not fork it.

 If you drop the conversion stuff (because postgres already has that)
 you're down to about 4MB.
 Why would you drop the ICU transcoding support instead of the existing 
 postgres functions? Why the duplicated effort?

Because we would want to be bug-for-bug compatable to previous
releases. I suppose it would be possible if someone checked that the
end result is the same.

 Certain Japanese characters cannot make a reliable round-trip through 
 Unicode. ICU uses UTF-16 as its store, so the Japanese folks won't be 
 happy with an ICU-only solution. However, it would still be of great 
 benefit to allow ICU to handle as much as possible, leaving the string 
 encodings to the encoding experts.

We don't need round-trip through unicode, since we're only doing one
way conversions for the purpose of collation.

BTW, this site seems to have a good discussion of Japanese characters
and Unicode.

http://www.jbrowse.com/text/unij.html

 At the very least, it would be great to have ICU to handle encoding on 
 a per-column basis (perhaps extending the text datatype with encoding 
 info). Perhaps this would be a decent stopgap solution? The backend 
 protocol would also need a version bump- currently, it converts all 
 strings to a single encoding.

That's called SQL COLLATE support and that's an order of magnitude
harder than adding support for ICU. See previous dicussion on -hackers.

Have a nice day,
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Re: [GENERAL] libpq: bind message supplies 2 parameters, but prepared statement requires 1

2006-07-02 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:17:12PM +0200, Alexander Farber wrote:

snip

 However when I try to execute the latter query by my C-program,
 then it fails, saying that my bind command supplies 2 arguments
 (yes, that's true), but the prepared statement requires 1 argument
 (why 1? I don't understand). I have prepared a separate simple
 test case, could someone please explain what am I doing wrong?
 
 #include err.h
 #include stdio.h
 #include libpq-fe.h
 
 #define DB_CONN_STR host=/var/www/tmp user=punbb dbname=punbb
 #define SQL_FETCH_USERNAME  select username from users  \
where id = $1 and md5('deadbeef' || password) = '$2'

You've got quotes around the $2, so it's seeing a string, not a
parameter.

Have a nice day,
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Re: [GENERAL] Installation problems

2006-07-02 Thread Chris

Victor Escobar wrote:
The directory is set to /dev/null. I also forgot to add that I'm using 
OS X 10.4. Since obviously /dev/null means the bit-bucket, what should I 
set the home directory to?


Always CC the list, you'll get much faster/better responses.

Set the home dir to the base of your postgres installation. If you 
installed postgres into /usr/local/pgsql, set it to that.



chris smith wrote:

On 6/30/06, Victor Escobar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,
  I'm going through the elongated instructions of installing pgsql and
am stuck at the point where one types:

% su - postgres

When I type this and type in the password I chose, I get the following
error: 'su: no directory'


What directory does /etc/passwd have for the postgres user? Does it 
exist?








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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL or mySQL

2006-07-02 Thread Richard Broersma Jr
 I hope my question does not start war of the posts. This question is
 genuine. Please answer objectively:
 I am test setting a Master Server (MS) with CentOS 4.3, freeRADIUS, DNS,
 Apache, (mySQL  PostgreeSQL), PHP, Postfix, etc. This Master Server will
 have all the software I we need for our operation. We will copy MS to each
 server and setup a load balancing servers.
 I have very little knowledge of either PostgreeSQL or mySQL. Please advise
 me as to which of these two software package to use? I need some specific
 examples as to superiority of one package over the other. I prefer using the
 package which has a goof GUI database design.
 Please help. I am posting this message to both lists. I am specifically
 interested in opinion of system analysts who have used both of these
 packages.

I am not the experienced analyst that you seek.  But there are many threads 
generated by such ones
on this very topic:

Here is one such thread: (there are many others if you care to search for them 
:-) )
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-general/2006-03/msg01004.php

Regards,

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Re: [GENERAL] db question - dynamic fields in db

2006-07-02 Thread a
you mean there are 3 tables
 the list of items purchased - this is what i am asking for

 the list of items purchased
What is difference between
T_SALES_CC_DETAIL and  T_SALES_DETAIL
thanks a lot ron
-
 T_SALES_CC_DETAIL
 - -
 SALES_ID  INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
 FOREIGN KEY (T_SALES_HEADER.SALES_ID),
 CC_NUMBER CHAR(16),
 EXPIRE_DATE   CHAR(6)

 T_SALES_DETAIL
 - --
 SALES_ID  INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_SALES_HEADER.SALES_ID),
 TRAN_SRLNOSMALLINT,
 INVENTORY_ID  INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_INVENTORY.INVENTORY_ID),
 QUANTITY  SMALLINT,
 SALE_AMOUNT   NUMERIC(10,2)
 PRIMARY KEY (SALES_ID, TRAN_SRLNO)

Ron Johnson wrote:
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 a wrote:
  hi
  i want to know
  how to add a list of items to a database
  it is basically text, but different fields
  but the problem is i dont know how many fields are there before hand
 
  so i m not sure how to store them in the db
  sometime i need to store 10 elements and some other times 5
  thanks a lot

 MUMPS has repeating fields, I think. :)  Pick definitely does...

 Seriously, though, what you need to do is to put that section of the
 database into 1st Normal Form.

 For example, a sales record has an sales id number, customer name,
 transaction date/time, store number, cash_credit flag, credit card
 number, reversal/adjustment flag, and the list of items purchased.

 So, this is how the tables would look:

 T_SALES_HEADER
 - --
 SALES_ID  INTEGER PRIMARY KEY,
 CUST_ID   INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_CUSTOMER_NAME.CUST_ID),
 TRAN_DATE DATE,
 TRAN_TIME TIME,
 STORE_ID  SMALLINT,
 EMPLOYEE_ID   INTEGER,
 CASH_CREDIT_FLCHAR(1),
 IS_REVERSAL_FLCHAR(1),
 IS_REVERSED_FLCHAR(1),
 XREF_SALES_ID INTEGER

 T_SALES_CC_DETAIL
 - -
 SALES_ID  INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
 FOREIGN KEY (T_SALES_HEADER.SALES_ID),
 CC_NUMBER CHAR(16),
 EXPIRE_DATE   CHAR(6)

 T_SALES_DETAIL
 - --
 SALES_ID  INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_SALES_HEADER.SALES_ID),
 TRAN_SRLNOSMALLINT,
 INVENTORY_ID  INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_INVENTORY.INVENTORY_ID),
 QUANTITY  SMALLINT,
 SALE_AMOUNT   NUMERIC(10,2)
 PRIMARY KEY (SALES_ID, TRAN_SRLNO)

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 For example, it is common sense to white-power racists that
 whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
 are mud people.
 However, that common sense is obviously wrong.
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[GENERAL] Is there a command like uf_purge

2006-07-02 Thread petedawn
hi all,

is there a command like uf_purge which purges the last x days of data.
i noticed this command somewhere but i cant find a reference to it any
documentation. is it a deprecated command and we just use delete now.
whats its functionality?
any ideas.


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Re: [GENERAL] db question - dynamic fields in db

2006-07-02 Thread Ron Johnson
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Correct, 3 tables.  T_SALES_DETAIL records are line items, the
stuff the customer bought.  There is only a T_SALES_CC_DETAIL record
if the transaction happens to use a credit card.

a wrote:
 you mean there are 3 tables
  the list of items purchased - this is what i am asking for
 
  the list of items purchased
 What is difference between
 T_SALES_CC_DETAIL and  T_SALES_DETAIL
 thanks a lot ron
 -
 T_SALES_CC_DETAIL
 - -
 SALES_ID INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
 FOREIGN KEY (T_SALES_HEADER.SALES_ID),
 CC_NUMBERCHAR(16),
 EXPIRE_DATE  CHAR(6)

 T_SALES_DETAIL
 - --
 SALES_ID INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_SALES_HEADER.SALES_ID),
 TRAN_SRLNO   SMALLINT,
 INVENTORY_ID INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_INVENTORY.INVENTORY_ID),
 QUANTITY SMALLINT,
 SALE_AMOUNT  NUMERIC(10,2)
 PRIMARY KEY (SALES_ID, TRAN_SRLNO)
 
 Ron Johnson wrote:
 a wrote:
 hi
 i want to know
 how to add a list of items to a database
 it is basically text, but different fields
 but the problem is i dont know how many fields are there before hand

 so i m not sure how to store them in the db
 sometime i need to store 10 elements and some other times 5
 thanks a lot
 MUMPS has repeating fields, I think. :)  Pick definitely does...
 
 Seriously, though, what you need to do is to put that section of the
 database into 1st Normal Form.
 
 For example, a sales record has an sales id number, customer name,
 transaction date/time, store number, cash_credit flag, credit card
 number, reversal/adjustment flag, and the list of items purchased.
 
 So, this is how the tables would look:
 
 T_SALES_HEADER
 --
 SALES_ID  INTEGER PRIMARY KEY,
 CUST_ID   INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_CUSTOMER_NAME.CUST_ID),
 TRAN_DATE DATE,
 TRAN_TIME TIME,
 STORE_ID  SMALLINT,
 EMPLOYEE_ID   INTEGER,
 CASH_CREDIT_FLCHAR(1),
 IS_REVERSAL_FLCHAR(1),
 IS_REVERSED_FLCHAR(1),
 XREF_SALES_ID INTEGER
 
 T_SALES_CC_DETAIL
 -
 SALES_ID  INTEGER PRIMARY KEY
 FOREIGN KEY (T_SALES_HEADER.SALES_ID),
 CC_NUMBER CHAR(16),
 EXPIRE_DATE   CHAR(6)
 
 T_SALES_DETAIL
 --
 SALES_ID  INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_SALES_HEADER.SALES_ID),
 TRAN_SRLNOSMALLINT,
 INVENTORY_ID  INTEGER FOREIGN KEY (T_INVENTORY.INVENTORY_ID),
 QUANTITY  SMALLINT,
 SALE_AMOUNT   NUMERIC(10,2)
 PRIMARY KEY (SALES_ID, TRAN_SRLNO)

- --
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Jefferson LA  USA

Is common sense really valid?
For example, it is common sense to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that common sense is obviously wrong.
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Re: [GENERAL] Is there a command like uf_purge

2006-07-02 Thread Michael Fuhr
On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 06:40:30PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 is there a command like uf_purge which purges the last x days of data.
 i noticed this command somewhere but i cant find a reference to it any
 documentation. is it a deprecated command and we just use delete now.
 whats its functionality?

Google, Google Groups, the PostgreSQL mailing list archives, and
the PostgreSQL source code and documentation for 7.3 and later all
contain zero instances of uf_purge.  Where did you notice it?
Might it have been locally written for your system?

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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL or mySQL

2006-07-02 Thread Guy Rouillier
Kirti S. Bajwa wrote:
 Hello List:
 
 I hope my question does not start war of the posts. This question is
 genuine. Please answer objectively: 
 
 I am test setting a Master Server (MS) with CentOS 4.3, freeRADIUS,
 DNS, Apache, (mySQL  PostgreeSQL), PHP, Postfix, etc. This Master
 Server will have all the software I we need for our operation. We
 will copy MS to each server and setup a load balancing servers.   
 
 I have very little knowledge of either PostgreeSQL or mySQL. Please
 advise me as to which of these two software package to use? I need
 some specific examples as to superiority of one package over the
 other. I prefer using the package which has a goof GUI database
 design.
 
 Please help. I am posting this message to both lists. I am
 specifically interested in opinion of system analysts who have used
 both of these packages.  

This topic arises on almost a weekly basis.  Have you read the archives?
Do you have specific questions after having read the archives?

You say absolutely nothing about your application.  Neither PostgreSQL
nor MySQL is completely superior to the other in all circumstances.  If
such were the case, both projects being open source, the superior one
would been universally adopted and the inferior one would have
disappeared.  Since that hasn't happened, you can probably safely assume
that MySQL is good for some applications, and PostgreSQL is good for
some applications.

If your question truly is genuine, and you've done some reading, post
back with some more specifics that people can comment on with some
relevance.

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Re: [GENERAL] different sort order in windows and linux version

2006-07-02 Thread Tom Lane
Dragan Matic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I was about to say the same thing. I think that the whole point in 
 having a portable database system is that the data inside the database 
 should behave the _same way_ no matter what operating system database is 
 running on - client shouldn't be aware of the server OS.

So on that argument, we need to eliminate datatypes float8 and float4
forthwith, because they don't behave quite the same on every machine.
And int8 too, because it's not supported on every machine.  And
--enable-integer-datetimes has got to go; in fact configure should
not have any options at all.

 Personally, I'd be perfectly happy with pgsql if I could choose to
 make text operations up to 2-3x slower without the fuss of how it's
 going to work on a certain platform, in each pgsql version.

Fine for you, not so fine for other people with different concerns.

I'm not unsympathetic to your general point, but black-and-white
arguments won't get far in this discussion.  It's all about tradeoffs
... it's most definitely not about one-size-fits-all.

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