Re: [GENERAL] Savepoint and prepared transactions

2010-05-05 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Konstantin Izmailov pgf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm working on a solution that utilizes 2 phase commit protocol (between SQL
 Server and PostgreSQL). Normally PostgreSQL statements sequense is:
 1. START
 2. inserts, updates, etc.
 3. PREPARE TRANSACTION 'uuid'
 4. COMMIT PREPARED 'uuid'

 What if on step 2 user application issues statements with SAVEPOINTs, e.g.
 2.1. SAVEPOINT svp1
 2.2. inserts, updates, etc.
 2.3. SAVEPOINT svp2
 2.4. inserts, updates, etc.
 2.5. RELEASE SAVEPOINT svp2
 2.6. ROLLBACK TO SAVEPOINT svp1
 2.7. inserts, updates, etc.

 Is this allowed and safe to use?

What are you expecting to happen?

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[GENERAL] no such file euc2004... while initdb 9.0Beta

2010-05-05 Thread Gerd Koenig
Hello,

I've tried to install the latest 9.0Beta (Fedora12, pgdg repository), but with 
no success. initdb returns with an error described below.


blub# yum list postgres*
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Installed Packages
postgresql.i3869.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12  @pgdg90
postgresql-docs.i386   9.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12 @pgdg90
postgresql-libs.i386 9.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12  @pgdg90
postgresql-server.i3869.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12 @pgdg90

blub# /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.0 initdb
Initializing database: [FAILED]

blub# cat /var/lib/pgsql/9.0/pgstartup.log 
The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user postgres.
This user must also own the server process.

The database cluster will be initialized with locale en_US.UTF-8.
The default database encoding has accordingly been set to UTF8.
The default text search configuration will be set to english.

fixing permissions on existing directory /var/lib/pgsql/9.0/data ... ok
creating subdirectories ... ok
selecting default max_connections ... 100
selecting default shared_buffers ... 28MB
creating configuration files ... ok
creating template1 database in /var/lib/pgsql/9.0/data/base/1 ... ok
initializing pg_authid ... ok
initializing dependencies ... ok
creating system views ... ok
loading system objects' descriptions ... ok
creating conversions ... FATAL:  could not access file 
$libdir/euc2004_sjis2004: No such file or directory
STATEMENT:  CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION euc_jis_2004_to_shift_jis_2004 
(INTEGER, INTEGER, CSTRING, INTERNAL, INTEGER) RETURNS VOID AS 
'$libdir/euc2004_sjis2004', 'euc_jis_2004_to_shift_jis_2004' LANGUAGE C 
STRICT;

child process exited with exit code 1
initdb: removing contents of data directory /var/lib/pgsql/9.0/data

==

Where should the file euc2004... with this function euc... come from ..?

thanks in advanceGERD.

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Re: [GENERAL] no such file euc2004... while initdb 9.0Beta

2010-05-05 Thread Shoaib Mir
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Gerd Koenig koe...@transporeon.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I've tried to install the latest 9.0Beta (Fedora12, pgdg repository), but
 with
 no success. initdb returns with an error described below.

 
 blub# yum list postgres*
 Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
 Installed Packages
 postgresql.i3869.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12  @pgdg90
 postgresql-docs.i386   9.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12 @pgdg90
 postgresql-libs.i386 9.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12  @pgdg90
 postgresql-server.i3869.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12 @pgdg90



Looks like you still using the alpha4 packages, try following this:

http://people.planetpostgresql.org/devrim/index.php?/archives/43-How-to-install-PostgreSQL-9.0-Beta-1-to-FedoraCentOSRHEL.html

http://people.planetpostgresql.org/devrim/index.php?/archives/43-How-to-install-PostgreSQL-9.0-Beta-1-to-FedoraCentOSRHEL.htmland
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Re: [GENERAL] no such file euc2004... while initdb 9.0Beta

2010-05-05 Thread Gerd Koenig
Hi Shoaib,

thanks for your hint it solved the problem just by yum update postgresql-* 
since I had the correct repository already ;-)

regards...GERD...

On Wednesday 05 May 2010 08:28:08 am Shoaib Mir wrote:
 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Gerd Koenig koe...@transporeon.com wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I've tried to install the latest 9.0Beta (Fedora12, pgdg repository), but
  with
  no success. initdb returns with an error described below.
  
  
  blub# yum list postgres*
  Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
  Installed Packages
  postgresql.i3869.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12  @pgdg90
  postgresql-docs.i386   9.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12 @pgdg90
  postgresql-libs.i386 9.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12  @pgdg90
  postgresql-server.i3869.0-alpha4_1PGDG.fc12 @pgdg90
 
 Looks like you still using the alpha4 packages, try following this:
 
 http://people.planetpostgresql.org/devrim/index.php?/archives/43-How-to-ins
 tall-PostgreSQL-9.0-Beta-1-to-FedoraCentOSRHEL.html
 
 http://people.planetpostgresql.org/devrim/index.php?/archives/43-How-to-in
 stall-PostgreSQL-9.0-Beta-1-to-FedoraCentOSRHEL.htmland see if that
 fixes the problem.

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Re: [GENERAL] no such file euc2004... while initdb 9.0Beta

2010-05-05 Thread Devrim GÜNDÜZ
On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 08:05 +0200, Gerd Koenig wrote:
 $libdir/euc2004_sjis2004: No such file or directory
 STATEMENT:  CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION euc_jis_2004_to_shift_jis_2004 
 (INTEGER, INTEGER, CSTRING, INTERNAL, INTEGER) RETURNS VOID AS 
 '$libdir/euc2004_sjis2004', 'euc_jis_2004_to_shift_jis_2004' LANGUAGE
 C 
 STRICT;
 
 child process exited with exit code 1
 initdb: removing contents of data directory /var/lib/pgsql/9.0/data
 
 ==
 
 Where should the file euc2004... with this function euc... come
 from ..?

This is an known issue with alpha4 RPMs, and I fixed it in 2nd set:

http://svn.pgrpms.org/browser/rpm/redhat/9.0/postgresql/F-12/postgresql-9.0.spec#L758

A workaround is installing contrib package. Please install beta 1 RPMs.
They are available in the same repository. A mini howto is here:

http://people.planetpostgresql.org/devrim/index.php?/archives/43-How-to-install-PostgreSQL-9.0-Beta-1-to-FedoraCentOSRHEL.html

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Re: [GENERAL] Savepoint and prepared transactions

2010-05-05 Thread Konstantin Izmailov
I expect that only changes on step 2.7 persisted in DB.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.comwrote:

  On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Konstantin Izmailov pgf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
  I'm working on a solution that utilizes 2 phase commit protocol (between
 SQL
  Server and PostgreSQL). Normally PostgreSQL statements sequense is:
  1. START
  2. inserts, updates, etc.
  3. PREPARE TRANSACTION 'uuid'
  4. COMMIT PREPARED 'uuid'
 
  What if on step 2 user application issues statements with SAVEPOINTs,
 e.g.
  2.1. SAVEPOINT svp1
  2.2. inserts, updates, etc.
  2.3. SAVEPOINT svp2
  2.4. inserts, updates, etc.
  2.5. RELEASE SAVEPOINT svp2
  2.6. ROLLBACK TO SAVEPOINT svp1
  2.7. inserts, updates, etc.
 
  Is this allowed and safe to use?

 What are you expecting to happen?



Re: [GENERAL] (psuedo) random serial for PK or at least UNIQUE NOT NULL?

2010-05-05 Thread Vincenzo Romano
2010/5/4 Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com:
 Vincenzo Romano wrote:
 Hi all.

 I'm willing to change an BIGINT ID column (actually a SERIAL8) with a
 BIGINT whose valules are (pseudo)random.
 The main objective is to avoid guessability.
 I whish I could also use it as the PK (as it's now) but that's not
 really important now.
 Any hint?

 http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Pseudo_encrypt

That's a nice starting point.
I should apply that function twice for each 32-bit chunk of a
64-bit BIGINT and then merge the results into a single BIGINT ...
Boring but doable!

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[GENERAL] temp sequence

2010-05-05 Thread Sim Zacks
I am using 8.2.14

I am trying to use a temp sequence in a function and I'm having a lot of
trouble.
I create the temp sequence and then I have to drop it at the end of the
function, because it stays alive for the whole session and not just the
function.
I want to use the nextval function in an update statement so it gives a
sequence number to each row it updates.
If I drop the sequence and recreate it I get an OID not found error.
I tried to run the update statement dynamically, but part of the update
stmt is an int array variable and it won't cast it to text.

My goal in the end is that every row that is updated will be numbered
sequentially per update.

Do you have any ideas?

Sim

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[GENERAL] database Benchmark, TPC, PostgreSQL and TPC-E

2010-05-05 Thread williamk...@libero.it
Looking for database benchmarks I fell into the Transaction Processing 
Performance Council

Some questions on it.

are there somewhere some results of TPC-* benchmarks for PostgreSQL?
Are there reliable database tests? There are open source implementation?
There are other benchmarks that would be worth to consider to use, or 
implement?
Looking on the TPC-E 1.10.0 specification history I saw that Enterprise DB has 
quitted the membership list (14 march 2008)
 What does it mean for PostgreSQL?

thank you

Davide


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Re: [GENERAL] Function not RAISE NOTICE if a parameter is NULL

2010-05-05 Thread Andre Lopes
Oh... Thanks. What a lame I'm.

Best Regards,

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:

 Andre Lopes lopes80an...@gmail.com writes:
  Thanks for the reply. I have not call it STRICT...

 Yes you are:

  RETURNS NULL ON NULL INPUT

 regards, tom lane



[GENERAL] alter table alter type CASCADE

2010-05-05 Thread Sim Zacks
One of the biggest problems I have maintaining a database with a lot of
views is that when I want to change a datatype, I have to drop every
view uses the column and every view that uses those views etc...
This turns into a maintenance nightmare.

Is there any intention of adding a CASCADE to alter type which would
automatically update any dependencies with the new datatype? Obviously
it should error out if it wouldn't have let you save one of the views
with the new datatype.

Thanks
Sim

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Re: [GENERAL] alter table alter type CASCADE

2010-05-05 Thread Thom Brown
2010/5/5 Sim Zacks s...@compulab.co.il

 One of the biggest problems I have maintaining a database with a lot of
 views is that when I want to change a datatype, I have to drop every
 view uses the column and every view that uses those views etc...
 This turns into a maintenance nightmare.

 Is there any intention of adding a CASCADE to alter type which would
 automatically update any dependencies with the new datatype? Obviously
 it should error out if it wouldn't have let you save one of the views
 with the new datatype.

 Thanks
 Sim

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Yes, there is an intention of adding such functionality (3rd item) but
probably not very straightforward:
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo#Views_.2F_Rules

Regards

Thom


Re: [GENERAL] (psuedo) random serial for PK or at least UNIQUE NOT NULL?

2010-05-05 Thread Cédric Villemain
2010/5/5 Vincenzo Romano vincenzo.rom...@notorand.it:
 2010/5/4 Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@commandprompt.com:
 Vincenzo Romano wrote:
 Hi all.

 I'm willing to change an BIGINT ID column (actually a SERIAL8) with a
 BIGINT whose valules are (pseudo)random.
 The main objective is to avoid guessability.
 I whish I could also use it as the PK (as it's now) but that's not
 really important now.
 Any hint?

 http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Pseudo_encrypt

 That's a nice starting point.
 I should apply that function twice for each 32-bit chunk of a
 64-bit BIGINT and then merge the results into a single BIGINT ...
 Boring but doable!

Hum, not sure. If I understand correctly, you won't be able to get the
original int64 from the generated one.
Better rewrite the function for 2^64 isn't it ?


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Re: [GENERAL] (psuedo) random serial for PK or at least UNIQUE NOT NULL?

2010-05-05 Thread Vincenzo Romano
 http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Pseudo_encrypt
 That's a nice starting point.
 I should apply that function twice for each 32-bit chunk of a
 64-bit BIGINT and then merge the results into a single BIGINT ...
 Boring but doable!

 Hum, not sure. If I understand correctly, you won't be able to get the
 original int64 from the generated one.

Why should I bother?

 Better rewrite the function for 2^64 isn't it ?

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Re: [GENERAL] (psuedo) random serial for PK or at least UNIQUE NOT NULL?

2010-05-05 Thread Cédric Villemain
2010/5/5 Vincenzo Romano vincenzo.rom...@notorand.it:
 http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Pseudo_encrypt
 That's a nice starting point.
 I should apply that function twice for each 32-bit chunk of a
 64-bit BIGINT and then merge the results into a single BIGINT ...
 Boring but doable!

 Hum, not sure. If I understand correctly, you won't be able to get the
 original int64 from the generated one.

 Why should I bother?

Dunno, but it was in the original spec.


 Better rewrite the function for 2^64 isn't it ?

 Sure!.

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Re: [GENERAL] alter table alter type CASCADE

2010-05-05 Thread Chris Barnes


It has been some years since I worked with Oracle, doesn't Oracle recompile the 
view when the object it references changes in structure? 

Send


From: thombr...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 10:12:34 +0100
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] alter table alter type CASCADE
To: s...@compulab.co.il
CC: pgsql-general@postgresql.org

2010/5/5 Sim Zacks s...@compulab.co.il


One of the biggest problems I have maintaining a database with a lot of

views is that when I want to change a datatype, I have to drop every

view uses the column and every view that uses those views etc...

This turns into a maintenance nightmare.



Is there any intention of adding a CASCADE to alter type which would

automatically update any dependencies with the new datatype? Obviously

it should error out if it wouldn't have let you save one of the views

with the new datatype.



Thanks

Sim



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not very straightforward: http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo#Views_.2F_Rules



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Re: [GENERAL] alter table alter type CASCADE

2010-05-05 Thread Thom Brown
On 5 May 2010 13:14, Chris Barnes compuguruchrisbar...@hotmail.com wrote:


 It has been some years since I worked with Oracle, doesn't Oracle recompile
 the view when the object it references changes in structure?
 Send


What does Oracle do when you've got a view like:

CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW test_view AS
 SELECT test.test_id, test.test_value, date_is_future(test.test_date) as
upcoming
   FROM test;

Where date_is_future expects a text field, but you change the test table so
that test_date is now varchar(20)?  The function no longer matches the
signature.  Does it just prevent it?  And what about when conditions are
provided in a WHERE clause which become invalid when the column type
changes?

Thom


Re: [GENERAL] Savepoint and prepared transactions

2010-05-05 Thread Scott Marlowe
Should work.  I'm not sure 2.5 release savepoint is necessary.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Konstantin Izmailov pgf...@gmail.com wrote:
 I expect that only changes on step 2.7 persisted in DB.

 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Konstantin Izmailov pgf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
  I'm working on a solution that utilizes 2 phase commit protocol (between
  SQL
  Server and PostgreSQL). Normally PostgreSQL statements sequense is:
  1. START
  2. inserts, updates, etc.
  3. PREPARE TRANSACTION 'uuid'
  4. COMMIT PREPARED 'uuid'
 
  What if on step 2 user application issues statements with SAVEPOINTs,
  e.g.
  2.1. SAVEPOINT svp1
  2.2. inserts, updates, etc.
  2.3. SAVEPOINT svp2
  2.4. inserts, updates, etc.
  2.5. RELEASE SAVEPOINT svp2
  2.6. ROLLBACK TO SAVEPOINT svp1
  2.7. inserts, updates, etc.
 
  Is this allowed and safe to use?

 What are you expecting to happen?





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Re: [GENERAL] alter table alter type CASCADE

2010-05-05 Thread Scott Marlowe
2010/5/5 Sim Zacks s...@compulab.co.il:
 One of the biggest problems I have maintaining a database with a lot of
 views is that when I want to change a datatype, I have to drop every
 view uses the column and every view that uses those views etc...
 This turns into a maintenance nightmare.

Then I would question your approach to maintenance.  In the past when
I've had to deal with this type of thing, all views were created from
a script.  Edit the script, run the script, you're done.  Do it in a
transaction and if there are any errors nothing changes.  Script looks
something like:

begin;
drop view x1;
drop view y1;
... more drop statements
create view x1...
create view y1 ...
commit;

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Re: [GENERAL] temp sequence

2010-05-05 Thread Scott Marlowe
2010/5/5 Sim Zacks s...@compulab.co.il:
 I am using 8.2.14

 I am trying to use a temp sequence in a function and I'm having a lot of
 trouble.
 I create the temp sequence and then I have to drop it at the end of the
 function, because it stays alive for the whole session and not just the
 function.
 I want to use the nextval function in an update statement so it gives a
 sequence number to each row it updates.
 If I drop the sequence and recreate it I get an OID not found error.
 I tried to run the update statement dynamically, but part of the update
 stmt is an int array variable and it won't cast it to text.

 My goal in the end is that every row that is updated will be numbered
 sequentially per update.

 Do you have any ideas?

Can you manipulate the sequence instead of dropping it?  i.e. select
setval('seqname',1); kind of thing?

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Re: [GENERAL] temp sequence

2010-05-05 Thread Greg Sabino Mullane

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 I am trying to use a temp sequence in a function and I'm having a lot of 
 trouble.
 I create the temp sequence and then I have to drop it at the end of the
 function, because it stays alive for the whole session and not just the 
 function.
 I want to use the nextval function in an update statement so it gives a
 sequence number to each row it updates.
 If I drop the sequence and recreate it I get an OID not found error.
 I tried to run the update statement dynamically, but part of the update
 stmt is an int array variable and it won't cast it to text.

This last bit is probably solveable: can you post the code? You should be 
able to cast the other side if not the array itself.

If you are inside a function, you already have built in iteration tools, 
so you may not even need to use a sequence at all. Again, seeing some 
code would go a long way here.

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Re: [GENERAL] database Benchmark, TPC, PostgreSQL and TPC-E

2010-05-05 Thread Andy Colson

On 5/5/2010 2:56 AM, williamk...@libero.it wrote:

Looking for database benchmarks I fell into the Transaction Processing
Performance Council

Some questions on it.

are there somewhere some results of TPC-* benchmarks for PostgreSQL?
Are there reliable database tests? There are open source implementation?
There are other benchmarks that would be worth to consider to use, or
implement?
Looking on the TPC-E 1.10.0 specification history I saw that Enterprise DB has
quitted the membership list (14 march 2008)
  What does it mean for PostgreSQL?

thank you

Davide




I think TPC is a measure of how much money a company will spend to be 
listed as #1.  I doubt you'll find PG because you have to pay mucho $$$ 
to setup/run/publish TPC results.


Really, though, the best benchmark you can run, is your own workload. 
Different benchmarks are setup to test different things.  Your workload 
may resemble one of them closely, in which case you are in luck... but 
otherwise those benchmarks wont tell you much about your own workload.


There is a lot of talk about benchmarks in the mailing lists... I've not 
read this one, but seems to match:


http://www.mail-archive.com/pgsql-general@postgresql.org/msg128869.html

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Re: [GENERAL] temp sequence

2010-05-05 Thread Andy Colson

On 5/5/2010 2:36 AM, Sim Zacks wrote:

I am using 8.2.14

I am trying to use a temp sequence in a function and I'm having a lot of
trouble.
I create the temp sequence and then I have to drop it at the end of the
function, because it stays alive for the whole session and not just the
function.
I want to use the nextval function in an update statement so it gives a
sequence number to each row it updates.
If I drop the sequence and recreate it I get an OID not found error.
I tried to run the update statement dynamically, but part of the update
stmt is an int array variable and it won't cast it to text.

My goal in the end is that every row that is updated will be numbered
sequentially per update.

Do you have any ideas?

Sim



Perhaps you can rewrite to use generate_series instead?

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/interactive/functions-srf.html

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[GENERAL] Multilevel partitioning

2010-05-05 Thread pasman pasmański
I create partitions as below.
And run query: select * from test where grupa='A';
Is planner skip to analyze partitions: test2d, test2e, test2f ?

best regards

-

CREATE TABLE test (

grupa character varying(1),

id integer,

num integer NOT NULL

);

 CREATE TABLE test1 (CONSTRAINT ABC CHECK (((grupa = 'A'::text) AND
(grupa = 'C'::text

INHERITS (test);

CREATE TABLE test1a (CONSTRAINT A CHECK ((grupa = 'A'::text)))

INHERITS (test1);

CREATE TABLE test1b (CONSTRAINT B CHECK ((grupa = 'B'::text)))

INHERITS (test1);

CREATE TABLE test1c (CONSTRAINT C CHECK ((grupa = 'C'::text)))

INHERITS (test1);

  CREATE TABLE test2 (CONSTRAINT DEF CHECK (((grupa = 'D'::text) AND
(grupa = 'F'::text

INHERITS (test);

CREATE TABLE test2d (CONSTRAINT D CHECK ((grupa = 'D'::text)))

INHERITS (test2);

CREATE TABLE test2e (CONSTRAINT E CHECK ((grupa = 'E'::text)))

INHERITS (test2);

CREATE TABLE test2f (CONSTRAINT F CHECK ((grupa = 'F'::text)))

INHERITS (test2);


[GENERAL] dynamically access columns in trigger

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel Schuchardt

Hy,

i need to have some idea how to dynamically access columns in a trigger.

Use/Case:

We have a workflowmodule. In different cases different workflows should 
be fired. In the Workflowdefinitiontable, we say tablename, when. so e.g.

~~table 1 - insert~~
~~table 2 - update~~.

We have a central trigger that fires on all tables. Inside the trigger i 
evaluate with TG_REL_NAME=wf_tablename - start workflow.


Now the problem is that there are different workflows in the update 
case. e.g. if the price changes, a CheckNewPrice workflow is startet, 
if a date changes a CheckNewDeliveryDate workflow is started.


My idea is to give my workflowdefinitiontable a additional column the 
holds the condition, e.g.

~~table 2 - update - ~ new.pricecolumnold.pricecolumn ~~~
so i need a solution how to evaluate that dynamic statement in my global 
trigger funktion.


Any ideas?

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[GENERAL] Table alias and inherited tables

2010-05-05 Thread Amol Chiplunkar

Hi,

I notice that for the following:

Table Base with say columns col1, col2

Table Child1 inherits(Base)
Table Child2 inherits(Base)

With check constraints and rules to insert the rows to appropriate
tables defined.

Inserts work as expected.
select * from Base; returns rows from both the children

But something like

select b from base b where b.col1=condition;

returns 0 rows even when there are rows in one of the child tables
that satisfy the condition.
Is this expected ?

thx
- Amol





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[GENERAL] need help on postgres

2010-05-05 Thread raha sadeghi
hi,
i am  a student , and for my final project i have to work with postgresql ;
my project subject is data warehousing  data mining, so i  need to define
cube; create dimention table  fact table  ...
i had active cube in template1; i mean i run cube.sql and there are cube
functions in my databases but i don't know how to create cube!!!
please help me  and explain me how to do these kind of things step by step!!

With Best Regards


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Re: [GENERAL] Table alias and inherited tables

2010-05-05 Thread Amol Chiplunkar


nevermind.. guess there was a problem with the query condition itself

regards
- Amol

On 05/04/10 22:42, Amol Chiplunkar wrote:

Hi,

I notice that for the following:

Table Base with say columns col1, col2

Table Child1 inherits(Base)
Table Child2 inherits(Base)

With check constraints and rules to insert the rows to appropriate
tables defined.

Inserts work as expected.
select * from Base; returns rows from both the children

But something like

select b from base b where b.col1=condition;

returns 0 rows even when there are rows in one of the child tables
that satisfy the condition.
Is this expected ?

thx
- Amol








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Re: [GENERAL] need help on postgres

2010-05-05 Thread Thom Brown
On 5 May 2010 08:28, raha sadeghi raha.sade...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,
 i am  a student , and for my final project i have to work with postgresql ;
 my project subject is data warehousing  data mining, so i  need to define
 cube; create dimention table  fact table  ...
 i had active cube in template1; i mean i run cube.sql and there are cube
 functions in my databases but i don't know how to create cube!!!
 please help me  and explain me how to do these kind of things step by
 step!!

 With Best Regards


 --
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PostgreSQL doesn't currently support CUBE (not to be confused with the cube
contrib module).  You may be able to implement what you are trying to
achieve by using common table expressions:
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.4/static/queries-with.html  This is only
available in PostgreSQL 8.4 onward.

Regards

Thom


Re: [GENERAL] database Benchmark, TPC, PostgreSQL and TPC-E

2010-05-05 Thread Greg Smith

williamk...@libero.it wrote:

are there somewhere some results of TPC-* benchmarks for PostgreSQL?
Are there reliable database tests? There are open source implementation?
There are other benchmarks that would be worth to consider to use, or 
implement?
  


There's a bunch of information on this topic at 
http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Category:Benchmarking  ; the entries for 
DBT-{2,3,5} are open source implementations of some of those.  And the 
links at the top there point to info about the sole audited PostgreSQL 
benchmark I'm aware of, which is a SPEC result rather than a TPC one.


Looking on the TPC-E 1.10.0 specification history I saw that Enterprise DB has 
quitted the membership list (14 march 2008)

 What does it mean for PostgreSQL?
  


Official TPC results require spending a lot of money, from buying 
servers to having the results audited, and there's very little value 
received for that expense from the perspective of the PostgreSQL 
community.  The fact that the software is free doesn't quite fit into 
the whole performance/$ focus of what real TPC results deliver.  TPC-H 
is the most interesting of them to me (and that's where there's a 
detailed page linking to resources related to it) because it suggests 
types of queries the database could handle better than it does right now.


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[GENERAL] question about log entry from trigger execution

2010-05-05 Thread Susan Cassidy
I have a database I inherited with a number of triggers defined on various 
tables.

One AFTER trigger, when executed, causes a database log entry with a CONTEXT 
entry, but no ERROR.  I normally only see the CONTEXT entries when an ERROR 
occurs.

The trigger is on table rbs, and it returns NULL.

Here are the entries (slightly edited):

May  5 16:08:21 postgres[18723]: [598-1] 2010-05-05 16:08:21 UTC LOG:  
statement: DELETE FROM rbs WHERE id = 136259855 AND cid = 601
May  5 16:08:21 postgres[18723]: [599-3] 2010-05-05 16:08:21 UTC CONTEXT:  SQL 
statement UPDATE uinfo UI SET id_bitmap = (id_bitmap  ~(1::bit(128)  
(C.bitmap_index
May  5 16:08:21 postgres[18723]: [599-4]  - 1)) ) FROM cinfo C WHERE UI.id =  
$1  AND  $2  = C.cid
May  5 16:08:21 postgres[18723]: [599-5] ^IPL/pgSQL function rbs__adel line 6 
at SQL statement
May  5 16:08:21 postgres[18723]: [600-1] 2010-05-05 16:08:21 UTCLOG:  
statement: COMMIT


The statement that seems to be logged is:
UPDATE uinfo UI
  SET id_bitmap = (id_bitmap  ~(1::bit(128)  (C.bitmap_index - 1)) )
FROM cinfo C
  WHERE UI.id = OLD.id AND OLD.cid = C.cid;

The update seems to get done ok.  I still wonder what the log entry is trying 
to tell me.

This is PostgreSQL 8.3.

Any ideas?

Susan



Re: [GENERAL] question about log entry from trigger execution

2010-05-05 Thread Tom Lane
Susan Cassidy scass...@stbernard.com writes:
 I have a database I inherited with a number of triggers defined on various 
 tables.
 One AFTER trigger, when executed, causes a database log entry with a 
 CONTEXT entry, but no ERROR.  I normally only see the CONTEXT entries when 
 an ERROR occurs.

The CONTEXT is associated with the preceding LOG line, in this case.
It's not at all true that CONTEXT is only attached to ERROR --- it
applies to any level of log message.

regards, tom lane

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[GENERAL] pg_class has 3615 rows and 1010Mb in table size

2010-05-05 Thread Nikola
The pgAdmin performance on one of our database servers has been dismal
for a while now. I captured one of the queries that was taking forever
to return, therefore making pgAdmin unresponsive for up to 10 minutes.

The query is as follows:
SELECT rel.oid, relname, rel.reltablespace AS spcoid, spcname,
pg_get_userbyid(relowner) AS relowner, relacl, relhasoids,
relhassubclass, reltuples, description, conname, conkey,
   EXISTS(select 1 FROM pg_trigger
   JOIN pg_proc pt ON pt.oid=tgfoid AND
pt.proname='logtrigger'
   JOIN pg_proc pc ON
pc.pronamespace=pt.pronamespace AND pc.proname='slonyversion'
 WHERE tgrelid=rel.oid) AS isrepl
, substring(array_to_string(rel.reloptions, ',') from
'fillfactor=([0-9]*)') AS fillfactor
  FROM pg_class rel
  LEFT OUTER JOIN pg_tablespace ta on ta.oid=rel.reltablespace
  LEFT OUTER JOIN pg_description des ON (des.objoid=rel.oid AND
des.objsubid=0)
  LEFT OUTER JOIN pg_constraint c ON c.conrelid=rel.oid AND
c.contype='p'
 WHERE relkind IN ('r','s','t') AND relnamespace = 16686::oid
 ORDER BY relname

I looked at the pg_class table and noticed that its size is 1010Mb and
index size is 1137Mb, while the table itself has only 3615 rows in it.
I tried vacuuming it, but that did not change anything. Is there
anything I can do to get this table back to the size it is supposed to
be at?

PostgreSQL 8.2.6 on Windows 2003 Server.

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Re: [GENERAL] Please help me debug regular segfaults on 8.3.10

2010-05-05 Thread pgsql

Alvaro Herrera wrote:

pgsql wrote:

Hi,

one of our pgsql instances recently started to segfault multiple times a
week. I tried a couple of things to pin it down to a certain query
or job but failed to find any pattern. All I can offer is some notes
and a set of similar looking back traces.


Please install the debuginfo package(s).  Have you got some external
module installed?


..for whatever reason I cannot get the postmaster provided by 
postgresql-debuginfo-8.3.10-2PGDG.el5.x86_64.rpm to run; it immediately 
causes a segfault:


ld-linux-x86-64[4286] general protection rip:3b2ca06471 rsp:7fff9a5077c0 
error:0


However I just build 8.3.10 from source with debug enabled. As soon as 
it crashes I'll post the new back trace.


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Re: [GENERAL] Please help me debug regular segfaults on 8.3.10

2010-05-05 Thread pgsql

Tom Lane wrote:

pgsql pg...@lavabit.com writes:
Looking at debug_query_string in the core dumps would
at least show what SQL command is calling the function(s) --- and I
wouldn't be surprised if there's exactly one function involved here.


Content of debug_query_string:

core.21207
$1 = 63106368

core.20832
$1 = 292449712

core.25421
$1 = 292450320

core.23631
$1 = 29245

core.9419
$1 = 284979152

core.16801
$1 = 284978992

core.32242
$1 = 284971248

core.10776
$1 = 284978832



As per Alvaro's suggestion, installing postgresql-debuginfo would
make the stack traces a lot more useful, too.


Build from source (without the relcache patch) with debug enabled; 
waiting for the next crash.



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Re: [GENERAL] pg_class has 3615 rows and 1010Mb in table size

2010-05-05 Thread Joshua D. Drake
On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 09:40 -0700, Nikola wrote:

 I looked at the pg_class table and noticed that its size is 1010Mb and
 index size is 1137Mb, while the table itself has only 3615 rows in it.
 I tried vacuuming it, but that did not change anything. Is there
 anything I can do to get this table back to the size it is supposed to
 be at?
 
 PostgreSQL 8.2.6 on Windows 2003 Server.

vacuum full, its an exclusive lock though.

I don't recall if 8.2 autovacuum would vacuum system catalogs or not.
Either way, you really should upgrade, especially since you are on
Windows.

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Re: [GENERAL] Please help me debug regular segfaults on 8.3.10

2010-05-05 Thread Tom Lane
pgsql pg...@lavabit.com writes:
 Tom Lane wrote:
 Looking at debug_query_string in the core dumps would
 at least show what SQL command is calling the function(s) --- and I
 wouldn't be surprised if there's exactly one function involved here.

 Content of debug_query_string:

 core.21207
 $1 = 63106368

Um, that's not too helpful, we want to see the string it's pointing at.
In a non-debug build you probably need to say
p (char *) debug_query_string
or something like that.

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[GENERAL] LDAP: Auto user creation and role membership

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel Scott
Hi,

I have Postgres 8.4.3 running with gss authentication against Fedora's
FreeIPA (Integrated Kerberos, LDAP and some other services).

I would like to auto-create users and auto-map postgres roles with
users and groups within the FreeIPA LDAP directory. Can anyone tell me
if this is available in Postgres? Looking through the docs, it appears
that it is not, and I have to manage user creation and role membership
manually.

I found this post from 5 years ago:

http://www.mail-archive.com/pgsql-hack...@postgresql.org/msg58156.html

But I haven't found anything mentioning this functionality since.

Is anyone else attempting to do this? I could probably write a script
or something to auto create postgres users from the LDAP directory
(and remove users who have been deleted from LDAP) and then
synchronise the roles with LDAP groups, but I don't want to repeat
this work if someone's already done it.

I'd also appreciate any hints or suggestions for ways to do this.

Thanks,

Dan

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[GENERAL] when to update pg_statistic relation?

2010-05-05 Thread sunpeng
when to update pg_statistic relation? is it when inserting a new tuple of
any user's relations? and the relation pg_stats at document 8.4 chapter
44.55.pg_stats hasn't been used anymore ?
another question is:
I noticed when i send the sql :select catcode from pois goup by catcode,
the function :double estimate_num_groups(PlannerInfo *root, List
*groupExprs, double input_rows)  uses pg_statistic.staattnum to set
Agg.numGroups, then if the pg_statistic.staattnum is incorrect ,does
postgresql still use this infomation to set Agg.numGroups ?


Re: [GENERAL] LDAP: Auto user creation and role membership

2010-05-05 Thread Magnus Hagander
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 22:49, Daniel Scott djsc...@mit.edu wrote:
 Hi,

 I have Postgres 8.4.3 running with gss authentication against Fedora's
 FreeIPA (Integrated Kerberos, LDAP and some other services).

 I would like to auto-create users and auto-map postgres roles with
 users and groups within the FreeIPA LDAP directory. Can anyone tell me
 if this is available in Postgres? Looking through the docs, it appears
 that it is not, and I have to manage user creation and role membership
 manually.

 I found this post from 5 years ago:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/pgsql-hack...@postgresql.org/msg58156.html

 But I haven't found anything mentioning this functionality since.

 Is anyone else attempting to do this? I could probably write a script
 or something to auto create postgres users from the LDAP directory
 (and remove users who have been deleted from LDAP) and then
 synchronise the roles with LDAP groups, but I don't want to repeat
 this work if someone's already done it.

 I'd also appreciate any hints or suggestions for ways to do this.

I've written scripts to do this several times using both python and
perl. It's pretty simple. I haven't made them generic though, so it's
not something I can share. But just a tool that compares the list of
users and issues the appropriate CREATE USER or DROP USER commands is
pretty trivial. Granting role permissions adds a bit of complexity,
but not much. Trying to do them generic will make it a lot more
complex though, so if you jus tneed it for this one case, a quick
one-off script is probably the easiest way to go.

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Re: [GENERAL] pg_class has 3615 rows and 1010Mb in table size

2010-05-05 Thread Nikola
On May 5, 3:37 pm, j...@commandprompt.com (Joshua D. Drake) wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 09:40 -0700, Nikola wrote:
  I looked at the pg_class table and noticed that its size is 1010Mb and
  index size is 1137Mb, while the table itself has only 3615 rows in it.
  I tried vacuuming it, but that did not change anything. Is there
  anything I can do to get this table back to the size it is supposed to
  be at?

  PostgreSQL 8.2.6 on Windows 2003 Server.

 vacuum full, its an exclusive lock though.

 I don't recall if 8.2 autovacuum would vacuum system catalogs or not.
 Either way, you really should upgrade, especially since you are on
 Windows.

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Yes, I was hoping not to have to do a vacuum full due to the exclusive
lock. However, if that's the only solution (other than upgrading in
general) then that's what needs to happen. Hopefully, vacuum full does
not end up taking an extremely long time to run.

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Re: [GENERAL] pg_class has 3615 rows and 1010Mb in table size

2010-05-05 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Excerpts from Joshua D. Drake's message of mié may 05 15:37:05 -0400 2010:
 On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 09:40 -0700, Nikola wrote:
 
  I looked at the pg_class table and noticed that its size is 1010Mb and
  index size is 1137Mb, while the table itself has only 3615 rows in it.
  I tried vacuuming it, but that did not change anything. Is there
  anything I can do to get this table back to the size it is supposed to
  be at?
  
  PostgreSQL 8.2.6 on Windows 2003 Server.
 
 vacuum full, its an exclusive lock though.

Note though that there being such few tuples, it should be rather quick.

 I don't recall if 8.2 autovacuum would vacuum system catalogs or not.

Eh, of course it would.
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Re: [GENERAL] alter table alter type CASCADE

2010-05-05 Thread Peter Hunsberger
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Thom Brown thombr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 5 May 2010 13:14, Chris Barnes compuguruchrisbar...@hotmail.com wrote:

 It has been some years since I worked with Oracle, doesn't Oracle
 recompile the view when the object it references changes in structure?
 Send

 What does Oracle do when you've got a view like:

 CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW test_view AS
  SELECT test.test_id, test.test_value, date_is_future(test.test_date) as
 upcoming
    FROM test;

 Where date_is_future expects a text field, but you change the test table so
 that test_date is now varchar(20)?  The function no longer matches the
 signature.  Does it just prevent it?  And what about when conditions are
 provided in a WHERE clause which become invalid when the column type
 changes?


If Oracle can find a function that will make the view valid it will
continue to allow usage of the view; though it is still marked as
needing to be rebuilt from a user perspective any calls to it will
succeed if there is a possible way for the view to still be valid.  If
there is no possible way for any use of the view to succeed then the
calls fail.


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Re: [GENERAL] Savepoint and prepared transactions

2010-05-05 Thread Konstantin Izmailov
yep, thank you!

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Should work.  I'm not sure 2.5 release savepoint is necessary.

 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Konstantin Izmailov pgf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I expect that only changes on step 2.7 persisted in DB.
 
  On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Scott Marlowe scott.marl...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Konstantin Izmailov pgf...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Hi,
   I'm working on a solution that utilizes 2 phase commit protocol
 (between
   SQL
   Server and PostgreSQL). Normally PostgreSQL statements sequense is:
   1. START
   2. inserts, updates, etc.
   3. PREPARE TRANSACTION 'uuid'
   4. COMMIT PREPARED 'uuid'
  
   What if on step 2 user application issues statements with SAVEPOINTs,
   e.g.
   2.1. SAVEPOINT svp1
   2.2. inserts, updates, etc.
   2.3. SAVEPOINT svp2
   2.4. inserts, updates, etc.
   2.5. RELEASE SAVEPOINT svp2
   2.6. ROLLBACK TO SAVEPOINT svp1
   2.7. inserts, updates, etc.
  
   Is this allowed and safe to use?
 
  What are you expecting to happen?
 
 



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Re: [GENERAL] Please help me debug regular segfaults on 8.3.10

2010-05-05 Thread pgsql

Tom Lane wrote:

pgsql pg...@lavabit.com writes:

Tom Lane wrote:

Looking at debug_query_string in the core dumps would
at least show what SQL command is calling the function(s) --- and I
wouldn't be surprised if there's exactly one function involved here.



Content of debug_query_string:



core.21207
$1 = 63106368


Um, that's not too helpful, we want to see the string it's pointing at.


Sorry about that. All statements are calling one of two pl/pgsql 
functions. While that information already helps me a lot, it'll take me 
a while to step through the code. Those functions are outer wrappers 
calling many other procedures.


Thank you very much.

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[GENERAL] how to get the deleted data

2010-05-05 Thread AI Rumman
Unauthorized user deleted some critical data from the database.
I don't have any log.

Is it possible to get what was the command used to delete the data?


Re: [GENERAL] how to get the deleted data

2010-05-05 Thread Brian Modra
On 06/05/2010, AI Rumman rumman...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unauthorized user deleted some critical data from the database.
 I don't have any log.

 Is it possible to get what was the command used to delete the data?


Is your server saving WAL's?
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