Re: [GENERAL] InitDB: Bad system call

2010-08-15 Thread Glen Barber
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On 8/15/10 1:32 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
 
 Well, this seems to be clear proof for what everyone suspected all
 along: your kernel is rejecting SysV-shared-memory calls.  I'm too tired
 to go check that that shmctl() is the first such syscall during the boot
 sequence, but it looks about right.
 
 So we're now back to the question of *why* it's rejecting those calls,
 when you apparently have the proper support configured.  I'm afraid
 you now need to seek the assistance of some FreeBSD kernel experts;
 it's beyond the ken of a simple database hacker ...
 

7.0-STABLE is ... old.  I would recommend upgrading to something more
recent before moving forward with this bug, as I expect the FreeBSD
community to recommend such anyway.

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Re: [GENERAL] Wrong ORDER BY on a numeric value result

2010-08-15 Thread Stefan Wild
Thank you guys! That was the point.


--- hubert depesz lubaczewski dep...@depesz.com schrieb am So, 15.8.2010:

 Von: hubert depesz lubaczewski dep...@depesz.com
 Betreff: Re: [GENERAL] Wrong ORDER BY on a numeric value result
 An: Stefan Wild wild...@yahoo.de
 CC: pgsql-general@postgresql.org
 Datum: Sonntag, 15. August, 2010 05:53 Uhr
 On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 09:46:37PM
 +, Stefan Wild wrote:
  Hello guys,
  
  I have following sorting problem and need your help.
 When executing this SELECT statement:
  
  SELECT           
       d.id,         
         d.name,
  d.description,     
    ts.name,         
      d.opentimestamp,
  d.initialvalue,       
 d.plmoney,         
    d.performance,
  d.performancepa,   
    d.currentopenmoney,   
 d.investedmoney,
  d.investedpercent, 
    d.cashmoney,       
    d.realizedwinmoney,
 
 d.realizedlossmoney,   d.currenttotalvalue,   d.depotriskpercent,
  d.taxesratepercent,    d.taxallowance, 
       d.paidtaxes,
  d.paidfees         
    FROM c_depots d INNER JOIN
 c_tradingsystems ts
  ON d.tradingsystem_id=ts.id INNER JOIN cx_users_depots
 cx ON
  cx.id_depots=d.id INNER JOIN c_users u ON
 cx.id_users=u.id WHERE
  u.login='' ORDER BY UPPER(CAST
 (d.currenttotalvalue AS numeric) )
  DESC
  The column currenttotalvalue has a numeric type with a
 length of 14 and 2 digits for percision. The initial SELECT
 didn't used the CAST, but the result was also wrong.
 
 column is numeric, but upper() works on text, and returns
 text, so your
 numeric column got casted to text by using upper (which is
 pointless
 anyway - there is no upper version of digits).
 remove upper() and you'll be fine.
 
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Re: [GENERAL] Wrong ORDER BY on a numeric value result

2010-08-15 Thread Thomas Kellerer

Stefan Wild wrote on 15.08.2010 10:36:

column is numeric, but upper() works on text, and returns
text, so your
numeric column got casted to text by using upper (which is
pointless
anyway - there is no upper version of digits).
remove upper() and you'll be fine.




Thank you guys! That was the point.


The real question is:

what did you try to accomplish with the UPPER() on a numeric column?

Regards
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Re: [GENERAL] InitDB: Bad system call

2010-08-15 Thread Alban Hertroys
On 15 Aug 2010, at 7:32, Tom Lane wrote:

 =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Torsten_Z=FChlsdorff?= f...@meisterderspiele.de writes:
 Core was generated by `postgres'.
 Program terminated with signal 12, Bad system call.
 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.5...done.
 Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.5
 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.7...done.
 Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.7
 Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done.
 Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1
 #0  0x000800bb166c in shmctl () from /lib/libc.so.7
 (gdb) bt
 #0  0x000800bb166c in shmctl () from /lib/libc.so.7
 #1  0x005b158f in PGSharedMemoryIsInUse (id1=Variable id1 is 
 not available.
 ) at pg_shmem.c:247
 #2  0x006a0844 in CreateLockFile (filename=0x7ea036 
 postmaster.pid, amPostmaster=0 '\0', isDDLock=1 '\001', 
 refName=0x800e0b180 /usr/local/pgsql/data) at miscinit.c:835
 #3  0x0049baf0 in AuxiliaryProcessMain (argc=3, 
 argv=0x7fffebc8) at bootstrap.c:350
 #4  0x0056742e in main (argc=4, argv=0x7fffebc0) at main.c:180
 
 Well, this seems to be clear proof for what everyone suspected all
 along: your kernel is rejecting SysV-shared-memory calls.  I'm too tired
 to go check that that shmctl() is the first such syscall during the boot
 sequence, but it looks about right.
 
 So we're now back to the question of *why* it's rejecting those calls,
 when you apparently have the proper support configured.  I'm afraid
 you now need to seek the assistance of some FreeBSD kernel experts;
 it's beyond the ken of a simple database hacker ...


Hmm... shared memory in a jail, there used to be some issues with that and I 
don't think they have been (or are going to be) solved.
I recall that shared memory can't be local to a jail (it's shared after all), 
so you probably need(ed) to allow access to it somehow for your jails.
Or you're running into issues sharing the same shared memory across multiple 
jails (and the base system) maybe?

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Re: [GENERAL] undefined symbol: PQconnectdbParams

2010-08-15 Thread Sim Zacks

 When I try using createdb or createlang I get the error:

 undefined symbol: PQconnectdbParams
 It's probably finding the wrong library. Which binaries are you using?
 If you do ldd /path/to/binary, what does it show? Maybe you need to
 set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the lib directory of your new postgres install?

 Regards,
   Jeff Davis
That worked. I added LD_LIBRARY_PATH to my bash.profile and its working
fine now.

Thanks
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[GENERAL] return setof : alternatives to holder table

2010-08-15 Thread zhong ming wu
Hello List,

I have a plpgsql function returning a set of records.  The record is
effectively a join of some tables.

For example, table a (column a1,column a2,column a3,column a4)

table b(column b1,column b2,column b4)

I am returning a set of (a2,a4,b2). What I do now is to create a empty table

foo(column a2,column a4,column b2)

then in my function I have

record r foo%rowtype

I'm not happy with this solution because this foo tables has to be kept around

Thanks for any better solution to this

mr.wu

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Re: [GENERAL] return setof : alternatives to holder table

2010-08-15 Thread Craig Ringer
On 15/08/10 18:00, zhong ming wu wrote:

 Thanks for any better solution to this

CREATE TYPE

However, you still have to have a special type around just for that
function, and you have to *maintain* it to ensure it always matches the
types/columns of the input tables.

I frequently wish for type inference in PL/PgSQL functions returning
query results, so Pg could essentially create and destroy a type along
with the function, allowing you to reference columns in the functions
results without having to use RETURNS RECORD and all that AS
(column-list) pain.

Of course, I don't want it badly enough to put my time where my mouth is
and try to code it ;-) . I'm not whining about the current situation,
just thinking about ways it could improve further.

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Re: [GENERAL] return setof : alternatives to holder table

2010-08-15 Thread A. Kretschmer
In response to zhong ming wu :
 Hello List,
 
 I have a plpgsql function returning a set of records.  The record is
 effectively a join of some tables.
 
 For example, table a (column a1,column a2,column a3,column a4)
 
 table b(column b1,column b2,column b4)
 
 I am returning a set of (a2,a4,b2). What I do now is to create a empty table
 
 foo(column a2,column a4,column b2)
 
 then in my function I have
 
 record r foo%rowtype
 
 I'm not happy with this solution because this foo tables has to be kept around
 
 Thanks for any better solution to this

You can create a aown typ or you can use IN/OUT-Parameters. I'm
prefering IN/OUT-Parameters, see here:

http://www.postgresonline.com/journal/archives/129-Use-of-OUT-and-INOUT-Parameters.html
http://bytes.com/topic/postgresql/answers/674690-output-parameters-functions


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Re: [GENERAL] return setof : alternatives to holder table

2010-08-15 Thread Mike Christensen
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Craig Ringer
cr...@postnewspapers.com.auwrote:

 On 15/08/10 18:00, zhong ming wu wrote:

  Thanks for any better solution to this

 CREATE TYPE

 However, you still have to have a special type around just for that
 function, and you have to *maintain* it to ensure it always matches the
 types/columns of the input tables.

 I frequently wish for type inference in PL/PgSQL functions returning
 query results, so Pg could essentially create and destroy a type along
 with the function, allowing you to reference columns in the functions
 results without having to use RETURNS RECORD and all that AS
 (column-list) pain.

 Of course, I don't want it badly enough to put my time where my mouth is
 and try to code it ;-) . I'm not whining about the current situation,
 just thinking about ways it could improve further.



How about just using OUT parameters?

CREATE FUNCTION FOO(IN _id uuid, OUT col1 text, OUT col2 text)
   RETURNS SETOF record AS
   BEGIN
  select col1, col2 from test where id=_id;
   END;

Then your output just has to match the signature of the OUT parameters.  And
you don't need to define anything when you call it.

Mike


Re: [GENERAL] return setof : alternatives to holder table

2010-08-15 Thread Craig Ringer

On 15/08/2010 6:18 PM, Mike Christensen wrote:


How about just using OUT parameters?

CREATE FUNCTION FOO(IN _id uuid, OUT col1 text, OUT col2 text)
RETURNS SETOF record AS
BEGIN
   select col1, col2 from test where id=_id;
END;

Then your output just has to match the signature of the OUT parameters.
  And you don't need to define anything when you call it.


That works - and in fact is what I often do. For a couple of functions I 
have a little query that re-generates the OUT param lists based on the 
contents of the INFORMATION_SCHEMA for those tables and dynamically 
re-creates the function, too.


It'd be kind of nice to have ALTERing a table propagate that sort of 
change to dependent functions so it didn't have to be manually 
maintained. Given that it doesn't do that for even views at the 
momement, though, it'd a pretty minor thing, and after development slows 
down post-release schema don't tend to change that fast anyway.


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[GENERAL] Relationship between ulimit and effective_cache_size, work_mem, shared_buffers, maintenance_work_mem and vacuum

2010-08-15 Thread Sandeep Srinivasa
hi guys,
 we have a single Ubuntu 10.04 box on which we are going to be
running a Postgres 8.4 server, ROR passenger and a solr search server.
I was looking at ways to optimize the postgres database and yet limit the
amount of memory that it can consume.

I am gonna set my shared_buffers to 256mb and work_mem to 12mb, temp_buffers
to 20mb (on a 4GB machine).
Now, the effective cache size variable seems more of a hint to the query
planner, than any hard limit on the database server.

Q1.  if I add ulimit -m and ulimit -v lines in my postgres upstart files
 will that be good enough to hard-limit Postgres memory usage ?

Q2.  once I have decided my max memory allocation (call it MY_ULIMIT) -
should effective cache size be set to MY_ULIMIT - 256 - 12 -20 ?  round it
off to MY_ULIMIT - 512mb maybe

Q3. Or will doing something like this play havoc with the query
planner/unexplained OOM/crashes ? I ask this because I see that there are
other variables that I am not sure, will play nice with ulimit:
1. will this affect the memory usage of vacuum (going to be using default
vacuum settings for 8.4) - because ideally I would want to have some control
over it as well.
2. Would I have to tune max_connections, max_files_per_process (and any
related variables) ?
3. When I turn on WAL, would I have to tune wal_buffers accordingly  set
effective cache size to account for wal_buffers as well ?


thanks
-Sandeep


Re: [GENERAL] return setof : alternatives to holder table

2010-08-15 Thread zhong ming wu
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:18 AM, Mike Christensen m...@kitchenpc.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Craig Ringer cr...@postnewspapers.com.au
 wrote:

 On 15/08/10 18:00, zhong ming wu wrote:

  Thanks for any better solution to this

 CREATE TYPE

 However, you still have to have a special type around just for that
 function, and you have to *maintain* it to ensure it always matches the
 types/columns of the input tables.

 I frequently wish for type inference in PL/PgSQL functions returning
 query results, so Pg could essentially create and destroy a type along
 with the function, allowing you to reference columns in the functions
 results without having to use RETURNS RECORD and all that AS
 (column-list) pain.

 Of course, I don't want it badly enough to put my time where my mouth is
 and try to code it ;-) . I'm not whining about the current situation,
 just thinking about ways it could improve further.



 How about just using OUT parameters?
 CREATE FUNCTION FOO(IN _id uuid, OUT col1 text, OUT col2 text)
    RETURNS SETOF record AS
    BEGIN
       select col1, col2 from test where id=_id;
    END;
 Then your output just has to match the signature of the OUT parameters.  And
 you don't need to define anything when you call it.
 Mike

My function loops through some rows and do return next which I think
works only with some predefined type.
My first pass on trying to make it work with OUT does not work.
I don't have that function with me to give a better try though.

Here is what I have tried

create or replace function te(out a int,out b int) returns setof record as
$pgsql$
declare
r record;
begin
r.a := 1;
r.b := 2;
return next;
end;
$pgsql$ language plpgsql;

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Re: [GENERAL] InitDB: Bad system call

2010-08-15 Thread Torsten Zühlsdorff

Alban Hertroys schrieb:


Core was generated by `postgres'. Program terminated with signal
12, Bad system call. Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.5...done. 
Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.5 Reading symbols from

/lib/libc.so.7...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.7 Reading
symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. Loaded symbols for
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #0  0x000800bb166c in shmctl () from
/lib/libc.so.7 (gdb) bt #0  0x000800bb166c in shmctl () from
/lib/libc.so.7 #1  0x005b158f in PGSharedMemoryIsInUse
(id1=Variable id1 is not available. ) at pg_shmem.c:247 #2
0x006a0844 in CreateLockFile (filename=0x7ea036 
postmaster.pid, amPostmaster=0 '\0', isDDLock=1 '\001', 
refName=0x800e0b180 /usr/local/pgsql/data) at miscinit.c:835 #3
0x0049baf0 in AuxiliaryProcessMain (argc=3, 
argv=0x7fffebc8) at bootstrap.c:350 #4  0x0056742e in

main (argc=4, argv=0x7fffebc0) at main.c:180
Well, this seems to be clear proof for what everyone suspected all 
along: your kernel is rejecting SysV-shared-memory calls.  I'm too

tired to go check that that shmctl() is the first such syscall
during the boot sequence, but it looks about right.

So we're now back to the question of *why* it's rejecting those
calls, when you apparently have the proper support configured.  I'm
afraid you now need to seek the assistance of some FreeBSD kernel
experts; it's beyond the ken of a simple database hacker ...



Hmm... shared memory in a jail, there used to be some issues with
that and I don't think they have been (or are going to be) solved. I
recall that shared memory can't be local to a jail (it's shared
after all), so you probably need(ed) to allow access to it somehow
for your jails. Or you're running into issues sharing the same shared
memory across multiple jails (and the base system) maybe?


The problems are known and i already have taken care of it. As written 
at the beginning i already have two jails at the server with running 
postgresql-instances.
Normally you have to tweak up the IPC-Params and use different user-ids 
for each postgres-user to avoid the problem with the shared memory. 
Thats why my problem is very strange. I never run into such a problem 
and i run nearly a dozen postgresqls in jails at different FreeBSDs.


Greetings,
Torsten

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Re: [GENERAL] return setof : alternatives to holder table

2010-08-15 Thread Joe Conway
On 08/15/2010 07:57 AM, zhong ming wu wrote:
 Here is what I have tried
 
 create or replace function te(out a int,out b int) returns setof record as
 $pgsql$
 declare
 r record;
 begin
 r.a := 1;
 r.b := 2;
 return next;
 end;
 $pgsql$ language plpgsql;

Try:

create or replace function te(out a int,out b int)
returns setof record as $pgsql$
  begin
a := 1;
b := 2;
return next;
  end;
$pgsql$ language plpgsql;

contrib_regression=# select * from te();
 a | b
---+---
 1 | 2
(1 row)

-- or --

create or replace function te()
returns TABLE(a int, b int) as $pgsql$
  begin
a := 1;
b := 2;
return next;
  end;
$pgsql$ language plpgsql;

contrib_regression=# select * from te();
 a | b
---+---
 1 | 2
(1 row)



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Re: [GENERAL] InitDB: Bad system call

2010-08-15 Thread Tom Lane
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Torsten_Z=FChlsdorff?= f...@meisterderspiele.de writes:
 The problems are known and i already have taken care of it. As written 
 at the beginning i already have two jails at the server with running 
 postgresql-instances.
 Normally you have to tweak up the IPC-Params and use different user-ids 
 for each postgres-user to avoid the problem with the shared memory. 
 Thats why my problem is very strange. I never run into such a problem 
 and i run nearly a dozen postgresqls in jails at different FreeBSDs.

Now that I'm a bit more awake, I do notice something interesting about
that stack trace: the shmctl() is being executed to see whether a shared
memory segment ID mentioned in postmaster.pid still exists.  This
implies that some previous incarnation of the postmaster got as far as
writing postmaster.pid, which implies that it successfully executed
shmget() and shmat(), and then crashed later.  The simplest explanation
I can think of is that it's *only* shmctl that is malfunctioning, not
the other SysV shared memory calls.  Which is even weirder, and
definitely seems to move the problem into the category of kernel bug
rather than configuration mistake.

I concur with the upthread suggestion that you need to update your
FreeBSD instance.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] InitDB: Bad system call

2010-08-15 Thread Torsten Zühlsdorff

Hello,


Well, this seems to be clear proof for what everyone suspected all
along: your kernel is rejecting SysV-shared-memory calls.  I'm too tired
to go check that that shmctl() is the first such syscall during the boot
sequence, but it looks about right.

So we're now back to the question of *why* it's rejecting those calls,
when you apparently have the proper support configured.  I'm afraid
you now need to seek the assistance of some FreeBSD kernel experts;
it's beyond the ken of a simple database hacker ...



7.0-STABLE is ... old.  I would recommend upgrading to something more
recent before moving forward with this bug, as I expect the FreeBSD
community to recommend such anyway.


FreeBSD 7 is from 2007. Thats not very old - you use FreeBSD for 
services which just should run (like postgresql :)). In my supervised 
server-park are half a dolzen FreeBSD-Server with uptimes around 7 
years. Upgrading is something you do very very rarely. And till now i 
didn't get such recommendation from the community. Its more likely to 
add a new server with a new Version of  FreeBSD.


Hm... i can't start debugging the kernel of a live-maschine. I will add 
a new server therefor. Maybe i can reproduce the problem at another 
machine for the FreeBSD-Community.


Thanks to all for you help und time,
Torsten

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Re: [GENERAL] return setof : alternatives to holder table

2010-08-15 Thread zhong ming wu
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:21 PM, zhong ming wu mr.z.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Joe Conway m...@joeconway.com wrote:
 On 08/15/2010 07:57 AM, zhong ming wu wrote:
 Here is what I have tried

 create or replace function te(out a int,out b int) returns setof record as
 $pgsql$
 declare
 r record;
 begin
 r.a := 1;
 r.b := 2;
 return next;
 end;
 $pgsql$ language plpgsql;

 Try:

 create or replace function te(out a int,out b int)
 returns setof record as $pgsql$
  begin
    a := 1;
    b := 2;
    return next;
  end;
 $pgsql$ language plpgsql;

 contrib_regression=# select * from te();
  a | b
 ---+---
  1 | 2
 (1 row)

 -- or --

 create or replace function te()
 returns TABLE(a int, b int) as $pgsql$
  begin
    a := 1;
    b := 2;
    return next;
  end;
 $pgsql$ language plpgsql;

 contrib_regression=# select * from te();
  a | b
 ---+---
  1 | 2
 (1 row)



The second example is perfect in that I just need to insert my table
definition into function definition.  Thanks.

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Re: [GENERAL] InitDB: Bad system call

2010-08-15 Thread Tom Lane
I wrote:
 ... The simplest explanation
 I can think of is that it's *only* shmctl that is malfunctioning, not
 the other SysV shared memory calls.  Which is even weirder, and
 definitely seems to move the problem into the category of kernel bug
 rather than configuration mistake.

Hmmm ... Google turned up the information that FreeBSD migrated from int
to size_t variables for shared memory size between 7.0 and 8.0, and in
particular that the size of the struct used by shmctl() changed in
8.0.  So I'm now wondering if what you're dealing with is some sort of
version skew problem.  Could it be that you built Postgres against
system header files that don't match your kernel version?  I'm not
exactly sure how that would manifest as this particular signal,
but it seems worth checking.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] .psqlrc and custom functions (mysql-like)

2010-08-15 Thread Pavel Stehule
Hello

2010/8/14 Sandeep Srinivasa s...@clearsenses.com:
 hi,
   As part of a product we are building, we are using postgres as our
 database. But most of our developers have a (loud) mysql background.
 I want to potentially provide aliases for a few commonly used mysql
 functions.
  I see that the .psqlrc could potentially be the place where you could
 define these custom functions - I looked at
 http://okbob.blogspot.com/2009/12/macros-for-epsql.html but it seems to be a
 patched psql. Is is possible to have the exact same commands as defined in
 that page in a .psqlrc .. via plpgsql or something ?

no, and it will not be a possible in near future.

 I might be totally way off the target here, so please correct me if I am
 wrong.
 As an example, how would I do something as simple as DESCRIBE table (yes I
 know \d+ equivalent.. I still want to be able to define this function)
 thanks and regards
 Sandeep

Regards

Pavel Stehule

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