Re: [GENERAL] Question about load balance

2012-06-12 Thread Condor

On 2012-06-11 22:47, John R Pierce wrote:

On 06/11/12 12:17 PM, Condor wrote:
May be because some times when some one start a new business does 
not have 20k $ for
a new server and resource of the server is enough for the moment and 
as I planed

is enough for this year.


and when you start a new business, you don't lease a campus large
enough for 10,000 employees, you deal with that when you need it.

if your app actually ends up needing to scale to google size, plan on
having to redesign it a few times.



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My question was how stable is pgpool, what problems I can
expect, and pure curiosity what is the technique for managing large 
databases.
CPU and memory to the second coming or are there other techniques for 
scattering

 applications on other servers.


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I think I'm trying to learn information what is the technique for 
managing large databases

not to philosophize what was my server.

H.

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Re: [GENERAL] Question about load balance

2012-06-12 Thread Tatsuo Ishii
 My question was how stable is pgpool, what problems I can
 expect, and pure curiosity what is the technique for managing large
 databases.
 CPU and memory to the second coming or are there other techniques for
 scattering
  applications on other servers.
 
 
 --- cut ---
 
 I think I'm trying to learn information what is the technique for
 managing large databases
 not to philosophize what was my server.

You'd better to subscribe pgpool-gene...@pgpool.net list
(http://www.pgpool.net/mediawiki/index.php/Mailing_lists) and post
this kind of question. There are many people who are serious about
pgpool in the list.
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Re: [GENERAL] Question about load balance

2012-06-12 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi,

 I think I'm trying to learn information what is the technique for managing
 large databases
 not to philosophize what was my server.

In this case it starts to get very specific about what you are trying
to accomplish.
Transactional databases offer a lot guarantees, which makes it hard to
just add another machine to the cluster, this isn't a webserver ;)

- Clemens

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Re: [GENERAL] Postgres 9.2 beta2 one-click installer on windows

2012-06-12 Thread Sachin Srivastava
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Sachin Srivastava 
sachin.srivast...@enterprisedb.com wrote:


 On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Craig Ringer ring...@ringerc.id.auwrote:

 On 06/11/2012 08:36 PM, Marc Watson wrote:


 *De :*Craig Ringer [mailto:ring...@ringerc.id.au]



 Is there any chance you can get the version of the currently installed
 MSVC++ redistributible(s) on your computer? They're listed in programs and
 features in the control panel.

 I originally had version 10.0.40219 installed in both 32 and 64 bit,
  which gave me the error. I uninstalled these versions just to get around
 the 9.2 beta2 install, which installed 10.0.30319.01.


 OK, so that confirms it. The Pg installer needs to have an updated redist
 bundled when the final version is released, and needs to treate error 5100
 as success.


 I have updated the redist and modified the installer to not treat 5100 as
 error (we already handle 3010 return code properly).

 I am in the process of testing the changes.



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Re: [GENERAL] Segmentation Fault

2012-06-12 Thread Craig Ringer

On 06/12/2012 03:15 AM, Benson Jin wrote:

Hi All,

A silly question how do I get install external symbols for 
postgresql, if compiled it myself previously? Do I recompile it with 
--enable-debug option?


If you didn't strip the executable then the cores produced even without 
--enable-debug will be somewhat useful, but debug info is ideal. You 
could try that first, since it'll give you a chance to make sure you can 
at least get and analyse a core file before spending time recompiling 
and reinstalling Pg.


Recompiling with --enable-debug is the easy way to get executables with 
debug info embedded in them. If the installed libraries, etc haven't 
changed since compiling your original copy of PostgreSQL, and if you're 
compiling the EXACT same source code, you can debug the core against 
these executables without replacing the ones you're actually running. 
Something like a libc upgrade since the original copies were built might 
mean that the new debug executables are no longer exactly compatible 
with the ones your core file came from, though, so the results can't be 
totally trusted.


Ideally you want to run the debug executables and get the core to debug 
from them. An --enable-debug build on gcc will still be optimised and 
should have no detectable performance difference. The executables are 
huge, but the ELF sections containing the debug info never get mapped 
in, so it doesn't actually matter.


An alternative is to build with --enable-debug, strip the debug info 
into external symbols packages using strip --only-keep-debug. There 
isn't much point unless disk space consumed by executables is a big 
concern, though.


I always use --enable-debug when building Pg. I rarely need the symbols, 
but it's handy to have them when I do.


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Re: [GENERAL] Question about load balance

2012-06-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 06/11/12 11:29 PM, Condor wrote:
I think I'm trying to learn information what is the technique for 
managing large databases
not to philosophize what was my server. 


you handle large databases with a lot of fast disk, and memory, this 
gets you into the terabytes.


clustering/load balancing would not do for this, other than needing MORE 
fast disk (N replicas require N times the disk system of one 
database).   clustering can provide active/slave failover for high 
availability, or it can provide replicas for balancing read queries.   
updates have to be made to all the replicas, so they wont be any faster 
than a single server (in fact, will be slower due to the overhead of 
replication


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[GENERAL] Problem installing extensions on Lion

2012-06-12 Thread Stefan Schwarzer
Hi there,

I upgraded my machine from Snow Leopard to Lion, and ran, as usual, into some 
Postgres update problems.

I used Kyngchaos libraries for all frameworks and Postgres. Now, I'd like to 
install the tablefunc/crosstab function.

But the make process gives me this:

cd contrib/tablefunc
tablefunc $ make
gcc -Os -arch x86_64 -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk 
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith 
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels -Wformat-security 
-fno-strict-aliasing -fwrapv  -I. -I. -I/usr/local/pgsql-9.1/include/server 
-I/usr/local/pgsql-9.1/include/internal -I/usr/include/libxml2  -c -o 
tablefunc.o tablefunc.c
In file included from /usr/local/pgsql-9.1/include/server/postgres.h:47,
 from tablefunc.c:33:
/usr/local/pgsql-9.1/include/server/c.h:67:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or 
directory
/usr/local/pgsql-9.1/include/server/c.h:68:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or 
directory
/usr/local/pgsql-9.1/include/server/c.h:69:20: error: string.h: No such file or 
directory


I have a similar issue with the compilation of the Postgis lib.

Thanks a lot for any tip!

Stefan

Re: [GENERAL] import *.backup-file (PostGIS - not mine)

2012-06-12 Thread gipsy-king1
There are few errors after my pg_restore command.

pg_restore -i -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres -d THS -v
H:.../netzknotenmodell_etrs89.backup
could not execute query: ERROR:  type public.geometry is only a shell
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation strasse.netzknotenmodell_etrs89
does not exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation netzknotenmodell_etrs89 does not
exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation netzknotenmodell_etrs89 does not
exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation netzknotenmodell_etrs89 does not
exist

pg_restore -i -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres -d THS -v
H:.../fahrbahnflaeche_etrs89.backup
could not execute query: ERROR:  type public.geometry is only a shell
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation strasse.fahrbahnflaeche_etrs89
does not exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation fahrbahnflaeche_etrs89 does not
exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation fahrbahnflaeche_etrs89 does not
exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation fahrbahnflaeche_etrs89 does not
exist

pg_restore -i -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres -d THS -v
H:.../strassenabschnitte_etrs89.backup
could not execute query: ERROR:  type public.geometry is only a shell
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation
strasse.strassenabschnitte_etrs89 does not exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation strassenabschnitte_etrs89 does
not exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation strassenabschnitte_etrs89 does
not exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation strassenabschnitte_etrs89 does
not exist

pg_restore -i -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres -d THS -v
H:.../strassennetzmodell_etrs89.backup
could not execute query: ERROR:  type public.geometry is only a shell
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation
strasse.strassennetzmodell_etrs89 does not exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation strassennetzmodell_etrs89 does
not exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation strassennetzmodell_etrs89 does
not exist
could not execute query: ERROR:  relation strassennetzmodell_etrs89 does
not exist

I got the same errors when I used the -Fc.

Do you with your experience know whats's to do with these 4 backup-files or
which command is to use?

best regards
Thomas

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Re: [GENERAL] import *.backup-file (PostGIS - not mine)

2012-06-12 Thread Tom Lane
gipsy-king1 stue...@gis-consult.de writes:
 There are few errors after my pg_restore command.
 pg_restore -i -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres -d THS -v
 H:.../netzknotenmodell_etrs89.backup
 could not execute query: ERROR:  type public.geometry is only a shell

Are these partial dumps?  It appears that you don't have postgis
installed in the target database, but a full dump should have included
the postgis types and functions.  If they were partial, what you need to
do is install postgis first.

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[GENERAL] Function already exists with same argument types

2012-06-12 Thread gipsy-king1
Dear all

I want to import a postGIS-DB backup-file.

When I execute this command:
*pg_restore -i -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres -d THS -v
path/alkis.backup   path2\output.txt 21*

I get an textfile with all outputs. There are lots of ERRORs like this:

*pg_restore: erstelle FUNCTION st_geometry_analyze(internal)
pg_restore: [Archivierer (DB)] Fehler in Inhaltsverzeichniseintrag 33; 1255
121878509 FUNCTION st_geometry_analyze(internal) postgres
pg_restore: [Archivierer (DB)] could not execute query: ERROR:  function
st_geometry_analyze already exists with same argument types
Command was: CREATE FUNCTION st_geometry_analyze(internal) RETURNS
boolean
AS '$libdir/liblwgeom', 'LWGEOM_analyze'
LANGUAGE c ST...*

/I heard that the restore-command will apply all functions a second time. Is
there a possibility to disable this inside the pg_restore-command?
I don't want to delete all function by hand inside the pdAdmin before I'll
execute the pg_restore-command./

best regards,
Thomas

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[GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread leaf_yxj
I need to create  c language in the postgresql database. I only know to
create as follows.

Create language c ;


Is there anything else I need to do before I create the C language?


Thanks.

Regards.

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[GENERAL] Recovery continually requests new WAL files

2012-06-12 Thread Alex Good

Hey!

I have a simple setup with one master and one backup server. I have an 
issue where I have performed a backup and copied it to the data 
directory for the slave, written a recovery.conf and copied in the 
backup_label file and then started the server, it happily restores 
everything up until and including the WAL file mentioned in the 
backup_label and then attempts to obtain the next archive file which has 
not yet been archived. I can't for the life of me figure out what is 
going on.


Here's a break down of what I do

call pg_start_backup('label')

tar -zcf backup.tar.gz base global pg_clog pg_multixact pg_notify 
pg_serial pg_subtrans pg_tblspc pg_twophase backup_label


call pg_stop_backup()

scp pgsql.tar.gz slave_hostname:/var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main

move to slave server

rm -rf global base pg_clog pg_multixact pg_notify pg_serial pg_subtrans 
pg_tblspc pg_twophase pg_xlog/*

mkdir pg_xlog/archive_status
tar -xvf backup.tar.gz

restart postgresql


recovery.conf
-
restore_command = 'scp 
master-hostname:/var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/wal_archives/%f %p'

standby_mode=on




And here's what I'm seeing in the logs on the recovering server

2012-06-12 16:31:26 UTC FATAL:  the database system is starting up
2012-06-12 16:31:27 UTC FATAL:  the database system is starting up
2012-06-12 16:31:27 UTC FATAL:  the database system is starting up
2012-06-12 16:31:27 UTC LOG:  incomplete startup packet
2012-06-12 16:31:30 UTC LOG:  restored log file 
0001000A from archive

2012-06-12 16:31:30 UTC LOG:  redo starts at 0/A78
2012-06-12 16:31:30 UTC LOG:  consistent recovery state reached at 0/B00
scp: /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/wal_archives/0001000B: 
No such file or directory
scp: /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/wal_archives/0001000B: 
No such file or directory
scp: /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/wal_archives/0001000B: 
No such file or directory



I'm confused by this because the 0001000B archive wasn't 
created until after the pg_stop_backup call so why is it needed?


Any help would be appreciated, I've been banging my head against this 
one for a while.


Thanks
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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread Raymond O'Donnell
On 12/06/2012 17:53, leaf_yxj wrote:
 I need to create  c language in the postgresql database. I only know
 to create as follows.
 
 Create language c ;
 
 
 Is there anything else I need to do before I create the C language?

Hello Grace,

C isn't available (AFAIK) as a procedural language; however, you have a
wide choice of other languages to choose from - see the docs under
Server programming for some of them.

In fact, C is the language used to write PostgreSQL.

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[GENERAL] How to declare return type for a function returning several rows and columns?

2012-06-12 Thread Alexander Farber
Hello,

I'm trying to create the following function which gives me
a runtime error, because it obviously doesn't return a mere
integer but several rows and columns (result of a join):

# create or replace function pref_daily_misere() returns setof integer as $BODY$
begin
create temporary table temp_ids (id varchar not null) on
commit drop;
insert into temp_ids (id)
select id
from pref_money
where yw = to_char(current_timestamp - interval '1
week', 'IYYY-IW')
order by money
desc limit 10;
create temporary table temp_rids (rid integer not null) on
commit drop;
insert into temp_rids (rid)
select rid
from pref_cards
where id in (select id from temp_ids) and
bid = 'Мизер' and
trix  0;
-- return query select rid from temp_rids;

return query SELECT r.rid, r.cards, to_char(r.stamp,
'DD.MM. HH24:MI') as day,
c2.bid, c2.trix, c2.pos, c2.money, c2.last_ip, c2.quit,
u.id, u.first_name, u.avatar, u.female, u.city,
u.vip  CURRENT_DATE as vip
FROM pref_rounds r
JOIN pref_cards c1 USING (rid)
JOIN pref_cards c2 USING (rid)
JOIN pref_users u ON u.id = c2.id
WHERE r.rid in (select rid from temp_rids) order
by rid, pos;
return;
end;
$BODY$ language plpgsql;

The runtime error in PostgreSQL 8.4.11 is:

# select pref_daily_misere();
ERROR:  structure of query does not match function result type
DETAIL:  Number of returned columns (15) does not match expected
column count (1).
CONTEXT:  PL/pgSQL function pref_daily_misere line 18 at RETURN QUERY

Does anybody please have an advice here?

The background: I have a table holding card game rounds:

#  \d pref_rounds;
Table public.pref_rounds
 Column |Type | Modifiers
+-+---
 rid| integer | not null default
nextval('pref_rounds_rid_seq'::regclass)
 cards  | text|
 stamp  | timestamp without time zone | default now()
Indexes:
pref_rounds_pkey PRIMARY KEY, btree (rid)
Referenced by:
TABLE pref_cards CONSTRAINT pref_cards_rid_fkey FOREIGN KEY
(rid) REFERENCES pref_rounds(rid) ON DELETE CASCADE

Each round is played by 3 players:

#  \d pref_cards;
   Table public.pref_cards
 Column  |Type |   Modifiers
-+-+---
 rid | integer |
 id  | character varying(32)   |
 bid | character varying(32)   | not null
 trix| integer | not null
 pos | integer | not null
 money   | integer | not null
 last_ip | inet|
 quit| boolean |
 stamp   | timestamp without time zone | default now()
Indexes:
pref_cards_id_index btree (id)
pref_cards_rid_index btree (rid)
Foreign-key constraints:
pref_cards_id_fkey FOREIGN KEY (id) REFERENCES pref_users(id) ON
DELETE CASCADE
pref_cards_rid_fkey FOREIGN KEY (rid) REFERENCES
pref_rounds(rid) ON DELETE CASCADE

I'm trying to take the top 10 players of the last week,
so that I can display their certain bids for analyse on
a web page (similar to the table in the middle of
http://preferans.de/user.php?id=OK471018960997 )

Thank you
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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread Tom Lane
leaf_yxj leaf_...@163.com writes:
 I need to create  c language in the postgresql database.

Why do you think you need to do that?  It's built-in.

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Re: [GENERAL] How to declare return type for a function returning several rows and columns?

2012-06-12 Thread Dmitriy Igrishin
Hey Alexander,

2012/6/12 Alexander Farber alexander.far...@gmail.com

 Hello,

 I'm trying to create the following function which gives me
 a runtime error, because it obviously doesn't return a mere
 integer but several rows and columns (result of a join):

 # create or replace function pref_daily_misere() returns setof integer as
 $BODY$
begin
create temporary table temp_ids (id varchar not null) on
 commit drop;
insert into temp_ids (id)
select id
from pref_money
where yw = to_char(current_timestamp - interval '1
 week', 'IYYY-IW')
order by money
desc limit 10;
create temporary table temp_rids (rid integer not null) on
 commit drop;
insert into temp_rids (rid)
select rid
from pref_cards
where id in (select id from temp_ids) and
bid = 'Мизер' and
trix  0;
-- return query select rid from temp_rids;

return query SELECT r.rid, r.cards, to_char(r.stamp,
 'DD.MM. HH24:MI') as day,
c2.bid, c2.trix, c2.pos, c2.money, c2.last_ip, c2.quit,
u.id, u.first_name, u.avatar, u.female, u.city,
 u.vip  CURRENT_DATE as vip
FROM pref_rounds r
JOIN pref_cards c1 USING (rid)
JOIN pref_cards c2 USING (rid)
JOIN pref_users u ON u.id = c2.id
WHERE r.rid in (select rid from temp_rids) order
 by rid, pos;
return;
end;
$BODY$ language plpgsql;

 The runtime error in PostgreSQL 8.4.11 is:

 # select pref_daily_misere();
 ERROR:  structure of query does not match function result type
 DETAIL:  Number of returned columns (15) does not match expected
 column count (1).
 CONTEXT:  PL/pgSQL function pref_daily_misere line 18 at RETURN QUERY

 Does anybody please have an advice here?

You can create the view with your query:
SELECT r.rid, r.cards, to_char(r.stamp,
'DD.MM. HH24:MI') as day,
   c2.bid, c2.trix, c2.pos, c2.money, c2.last_ip, c2.quit,
   u.id, u.first_name, u.avatar, u.female, u.city,
u.vip  CURRENT_DATE as vip
   FROM pref_rounds r
   JOIN pref_cards c1 USING (rid)
   JOIN pref_cards c2 USING (rid)
   JOIN pref_users u ON u.id = c2.id;

and use this view both as the function return type and for
selecting inside the function.

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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 06/12/12 9:53 AM, leaf_yxj wrote:

I need to create  c language in the postgresql database. I only know to
create as follows.

Create language c ;



to clarify what tom said,   you externally compile your C functions into 
.so/.dll files, then bind them in with CREATE FUNCTION name(args) 
RETURNS .  AS 'path/filename'  LANGUAGE C


see http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/xfunc-c.html


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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread yxj
Hi Tom,
 
Thanks. You guys are right. I check the database. The C programm is there.   
- but why our application team keep ask me to give them the superuser 
privileges to create the C function. Should they use the superuser to create 
the C function. if yes , why they need it?
 
Thanks.
Regards.
 
Grace





At 2012-06-13 01:55:52,Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us wrote:
leaf_yxj leaf_...@163.com writes:
 I need to create  c language in the postgresql database.

Why do you think you need to do that?  It's built-in.

   regards, tom lane


Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread leaf_yxj
Hi Raymond,
 
 
Thanks. You guys are right. I check the database. The C programm is there.   
- but why our application team keep ask me to give them the superuser 
privileges to create the C function. Should they use the superuser to create 
the C function. if yes , why they need it?
 
Thanks.
Regards.
 
Grace





At 2012-06-13 01:35:49,Raymond O'Donnell [via PostgreSQL] 
ml-node+s1045698n5712228...@n5.nabble.com wrote:
On 12/06/2012 17:53, leaf_yxj wrote:
 I need to create  c language in the postgresql database. I only know
 to create as follows.

 Create language c ;


 Is there anything else I need to do before I create the C language?

Hello Grace,

C isn't available (AFAIK) as a procedural language; however, you have a
wide choice of other languages to choose from - see the docs under
Server programming for some of them.

In fact, C is the language used to write PostgreSQL.

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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread leaf_yxj
Hi John,

 
Thanks. You guys are right. I check the database. The C programm is there.   
- but why our application team keep ask me to give them the superuser 
privileges to create the C function. Should they use the superuser to create 
the C function. if yes , why they need it?
 
Thanks.
Regards.
 
Grace




At 2012-06-13 02:14:06,John R Pierce [via PostgreSQL] 
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On 06/12/12 9:53 AM, leaf_yxj wrote:
 I need to create  c language in the postgresql database. I only know to
 create as follows.

 Create language c ;


to clarify what tom said,   you externally compile your C functions into
.so/.dll files, then bind them in with CREATE FUNCTION name(args)
RETURNS .  AS 'path/filename'  LANGUAGE C

see http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/xfunc-c.html


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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread leaf_yxj
Hi Tom,
 
Thanks. You guys are right. I check the database. The C programm is there.  
- but why our application team keep ask me to give them the superuser
privileges to create the C function. Should they use the superuser to create
the C function. if yes , why they need it?
 
Thanks.
Regards.
 
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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 06/12/12 11:25 AM, leaf_yxj wrote:
Thanks. You guys are right. I check the database. The C programm is 
there.   - but why our application team keep ask me to give them 
the superuser privileges to create the C function. Should they use the 
superuser to create the C function. if yes , why they need it?


yes, only a sql superuser can define a C function, as these have total 
access to crashing postgres's innards.




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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread leaf_yxj
John,
 
So can I ( the superuser) do it by myself and how can I do it?
 
Thanks.
 
Grace




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On 06/12/12 11:25 AM, leaf_yxj wrote:
 Thanks. You guys are right. I check the database. The C programm is
 there.   - but why our application team keep ask me to give them
 the superuser privileges to create the C function. Should they use the
 superuser to create the C function. if yes , why they need it?

yes, only a sql superuser can define a C function, as these have total
access to crashing postgres's innards.



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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 06/12/12 12:04 PM, leaf_yxj wrote:

So can I ( the superuser) do it by myself and how can I do it?


the devs would give you the .dll/.so file, and a .sql scrap to do the 
install.  you'd put the .so/.dll in an appropriate place, and run the 
.sql scrap to install it into a given database.




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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread leaf_yxj

Hi John,
 
one more question: so it's one time jobs or it need keep  doing.
 
Thanks.
 
Grace



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On 06/12/12 11:25 AM, leaf_yxj wrote:
 Thanks. You guys are right. I check the database. The C programm is
 there.   - but why our application team keep ask me to give them
 the superuser privileges to create the C function. Should they use the
 superuser to create the C function. if yes , why they need it?

yes, only a sql superuser can define a C function, as these have total
access to crashing postgres's innards.



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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 06/12/12 12:07 PM, leaf_yxj wrote:

one more question: so it's one time jobs or it need keep  doing.


each time the C function is updated, you would need to DROP FUNCTION / 
replace binary / CREATE FUNCTION in any database that needs it.  and 
each time you create a new database that needs it, you'd need to CREATE 
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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread leaf_yxj
Hi John,
 
Thanks for your quick reply. It's really help me a lot. 
 
1) What's the info in .dll/.so ?
2)  .sql scrap  is the binary installation file?
3) For the same database, we need update C functions frequently ?
 
Thanks.
 
Regards.
 
Grace 




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On 06/12/12 12:04 PM, leaf_yxj wrote:
 So can I ( the superuser) do it by myself and how can I do it?

the devs would give you the .dll/.so file, and a .sql scrap to do the
install.  you'd put the .so/.dll in an appropriate place, and run the
.sql scrap to install it into a given database.



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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread John R Pierce

On 06/12/12 12:22 PM, leaf_yxj wrote:

1) What's the info in .dll/.so ?


thats the binary code compiled and linked from C,   windows calls this 
DLL (Dynamic Link Library), while unix usually calls it SO (Shared 
Object).  Mac OSX has yet another name (dylib or something).



2)  .sql scrap  is the binary installation file?


the .sql is the CREATE FUNCTION statement mostly.



3) For the same database, we need update C functions frequently ?


you tell me?  how often do your programmers change them?



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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread leaf_yxj
Hi John,
 
Thanks for your useful info. I really apprecaite it.  I got this problem when 
the SAS application try to install the scoring model.  So I am very confused.
 1) What's the info in .dll/.so ?

thats the binary code compiled and linked from C,   windows calls this
DLL (Dynamic Link Library), while unix usually calls it SO (Shared
Object).  Mac OSX has yet another name (dylib or something).

 Grace comments : this need the superuser privileges on the server to copy 
those .so ( we are on the linux server)  to the postgresql server ?
correct 
 
 2)  .sql scrap  is the binary installation file?

the .sql is the CREATE FUNCTION statement mostly.
--- Grace comments : we already grant create privileges on the saslib schema. 
So it means they can this scrap by themselves ???

 3) For the same database, we need update C functions frequently ?

you tell me?  how often do your programmers change them?
 Grace commends : they tried to SAS to create lot of models. So I amn't 
sure about this issues. But John, thanks a lot for your answers.
 
Thanks.
 
Regards.
 
Grace





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On 06/12/12 12:22 PM, leaf_yxj wrote:
 1) What's the info in .dll/.so ?

thats the binary code compiled and linked from C,   windows calls this
DLL (Dynamic Link Library), while unix usually calls it SO (Shared
Object).  Mac OSX has yet another name (dylib or something).

 2)  .sql scrap  is the binary installation file?

the .sql is the CREATE FUNCTION statement mostly.


 3) For the same database, we need update C functions frequently ?

you tell me?  how often do your programmers change them?



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[GENERAL] trigger on view returning created serial

2012-06-12 Thread Philipp Kraus
Hello,

I have created a view and on this view a trigger, which is called on an insert 
command on the view.
Within the trigger I run an insert on a table and one of the table fields uses 
a serial sequence, that
creates values. If I run in the trigger after the insert a return NEW, the 
field (id) which should
be set by the serial on the table is 0, so how can I get the new created serial 
on the insert command
within the trigger function?

Thanks

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[GENERAL] Reference with inheritance propagate data

2012-06-12 Thread Yuriy Rusinov
Hello, All !

I have base table q_base_table with column (id bigint) which may be
inherited by users tables, primary key for both base table and derived
tables is id. Now I need for another table record_rubricator which has
to be referenced to base and derived tables, which way I have to do
it, because postgresql does not allow automatically propagate data ?

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[GENERAL] UPDATE Syntax Check

2012-06-12 Thread Rich Shepard

  One table, waterchem, with primary key 'site' has columns easting and
northing with no values in them. A second table, sites, with primary key
'name' has values for easting and northing for each row. I want to update
waterchem with the easting and northing values from sites. My proposed
statement is,

  UPDATE waterchem
  SET waterchem.easting, waterchem.northing = sites.easting, sites.northing
  FROM sites AS s
  WHERE waterchem.site = s.name;

  Is this correct? If not, what approach should I adopt?

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Re: [GENERAL] UPDATE Syntax Check

2012-06-12 Thread Thomas Kellerer

Rich Shepard wrote on 13.06.2012 00:17:

   One table, waterchem, with primary key 'site' has columns easting and
northing with no values in them. A second table, sites, with primary key
'name' has values for easting and northing for each row. I want to update
waterchem with the easting and northing values from sites. My proposed
statement is,

   UPDATE waterchem
   SET waterchem.easting, waterchem.northing = sites.easting, sites.northing
   FROM sites AS s
   WHERE waterchem.site = s.name;

   Is this correct? If not, what approach should I adopt?



No it's not quite correct:

UPDATE waterchem
  SET waterchem.easting = s.easting
  waterchem.northing = s.northing
FROM sites AS s
WHERE waterchem.site = s.name;





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Re: [GENERAL] UPDATE Syntax Check

2012-06-12 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Thomas Kellerer wrote:


No it's not quite correct:

UPDATE waterchem
 SET waterchem.easting = s.easting
 waterchem.northing = s.northing
FROM sites AS s
WHERE waterchem.site = s.name;


Thomas,

  I wondered about this syntax, and doing each column separately.

Thanks for the correction,

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Re: [GENERAL] UPDATE Syntax Check

2012-06-12 Thread Rich Shepard

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Thomas Kellerer wrote:


UPDATE waterchem
 SET waterchem.easting = s.easting
 waterchem.northing = s.northing
FROM sites AS s
WHERE waterchem.site = s.name;


Thomas,

  For the record, running this pushed me to the correct syntax:

  UPDATE waterchem
SET easting = s.easting
northing = s.northing
  FROM sites AS s
  WHERE waterchem.site = s.name;

  The target does not want the table name repeated; postgres looks for a
column named 'waterchem.easting'.

Regards,

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Re: [GENERAL] Reference with inheritance propagate data

2012-06-12 Thread Jeff Davis
On Wed, 2012-06-13 at 00:38 +0400, Yuriy Rusinov wrote:
 Hello, All !
 
 I have base table q_base_table with column (id bigint) which may be
 inherited by users tables, primary key for both base table and derived
 tables is id. Now I need for another table record_rubricator which has
 to be referenced to base and derived tables, which way I have to do
 it, because postgresql does not allow automatically propagate data ?

One foreign key cannot reference two tables.

Have you considered a design that does not use inheritance? For
instance, the users table could reference q_base_table, and then
record_rubricator could also reference q_base_table?

Also, I don't understand what you mean about propagating data. What data
do you want to propagate?

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Re: [GENERAL] trigger on view returning created serial

2012-06-12 Thread Jeff Davis
On Tue, 2012-06-12 at 22:35 +0200, Philipp Kraus wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have created a view and on this view a trigger, which is called on an 
 insert command on the view.
 Within the trigger I run an insert on a table and one of the table fields 
 uses a serial sequence, that
 creates values. If I run in the trigger after the insert a return NEW, the 
 field (id) which should
 be set by the serial on the table is 0, so how can I get the new created 
 serial on the insert command
 within the trigger function?

It's hard for me to tell exactly what problem you're describing, but it
sounds similar to the one solved here:

http://people.planetpostgresql.org/dfetter/index.php?/archives/66-VIEW-triggers-RETURNINGhtml

If I misunderstood, please be more descriptive about what you are trying
to do, what code you wrote, and what went wrong.

Regards,
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Re: [GENERAL] UPDATE Syntax Check

2012-06-12 Thread David Johnston
On Jun 12, 2012, at 18:50, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Jun 2012, Thomas Kellerer wrote:
 
 UPDATE waterchem
 SET waterchem.easting = s.easting
 waterchem.northing = s.northing
 FROM sites AS s
 WHERE waterchem.site = s.name;
 
 Thomas,
 
  For the record, running this pushed me to the correct syntax:
 
  UPDATE waterchem
SET easting = s.easting
northing = s.northing
  FROM sites AS s
  WHERE waterchem.site = s.name;
 
  The target does not want the table name repeated; postgres looks for a
 column named 'waterchem.easting'.
 
 Regards,
 
 Rich
 

You are right regarding the table name in the set portion, it has to be the 
specified table.  However, you can alias the table so that instead of 
waterchem.site you could do something like wc.site
And, to be thorough, you need to put commas between each field you want to 
update.

easting = s.easting, northing = s.northing



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Re: [GENERAL] Problem installing extensions on Lion

2012-06-12 Thread Craig Ringer

On 06/12/2012 08:21 PM, Stefan Schwarzer wrote:

Hi there,

I upgraded my machine from Snow Leopard to Lion, and ran, as usual, 
into some Postgres update problems.


I used Kyngchaos libraries for all frameworks and Postgres. Now, I'd 
like to install the tablefunc/crosstab function.


But the make process gives me this:


Looks like your dev env is broken or incomplete.

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Re: [GENERAL] Function already exists with same argument types

2012-06-12 Thread Craig Ringer

On 06/12/2012 09:01 PM, gipsy-king1 wrote:

Dear all

I want to import a postGIS-DB backup-file.

When I execute this command:
*pg_restore -i -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres -d THS -v
path/alkis.backup   path2\output.txt 21*

I get an textfile with all outputs. There are lots of ERRORs like this:


When you create the database to restore to, create it from template0.

postgres# CREATE DATABASE THS WITH TEMPLATE template0;

... adding any LOCALE, ENCODING, OWNER, etc directives you need too.

That'll ensure you're stating with an empty target to restore to.

Alternately, you can use pg_restore with the -C option to tell it to 
make a new database to restore to. It'll create a new DB with the same 
name as the one you dumped, and restore to it. Strangely, you must tell 
pg_restore to connect to a different database in order to create a 
database, eg:


  pg_restore -C --dbname postgres -U postgres -h localhost -p 5432 -i 
-v path/alkis.backup


will restore to a NEW database (not to the postgres database) created 
with the same name as the db that was dumped had. Note, however, that 
this WILL NOT WORK if you're restoring a dump made on Linux to a Windows 
box or vice versa due to a limitation/bug in how PostgreSQL and 
pg_restore handle locales and encodings. You must use the CREATE 
DATABASE followed by separate pg_restore method in that case.


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Re: [GENERAL] UPDATE Syntax Check

2012-06-12 Thread Rich Shepard

On Tue, 12 Jun 2012, David Johnston wrote:


And, to be thorough, you need to put commas between each field you want to
update.


  Did that. Didn't write it that way in the message.

Regards,

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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread Craig Ringer

On 06/13/2012 03:35 AM, leaf_yxj wrote:

Hi John,
Thanks for your useful info. I really apprecaite it.  I got this 
problem when the SAS application try to install the scoring model.  So 
I am very confused.

 1) What's the info in .dll/.so ?

thats the binary code compiled and linked from C,   windows calls this
DLL (Dynamic Link Library), while unix usually calls it SO (Shared
Object).  Mac OSX has yet another name (dylib or something).
 Grace comments : this need the superuser privileges on the server 
to copy those .so ( we are on the linux server)  to the postgresql 
server ?

correct 

And to dynamically link them into the PostgreSQL executable to run them.

Most importantly, you have to COMPLTELY AND UTTERLY TRUST YOUR DEV TEAM. 
If you let them install a C library they've written, you've given them 
total power over your database, so they can just use their C function to 
give themselves superuser privs if they want it. This isn't a bad thing; 
C functions are extremely fast and powerful tools in a database, you 
just have to trust the person or people who wrote them.


A C library also has much greater opportunity to muck up your database. 
In particular it can crash database backends very easily. You need to 
know the people who wrote it are competent and tested it well in a 
non-production environment.


You need to read about dlopen or LoadLibrary, about dynamic linking, 
about compilation and shared libraries in C, etc. Right now you don't 
have the background in how this works to make appropriate decisions; you 
have to either trust your dev team to do the right thing, or tell them 
to do what they need to without using a C library and accept that may 
mean you're stopping them from doing their jobs properly.



 2)  .sql scrap  is the binary installation file?

the .sql is the CREATE FUNCTION statement mostly.
--- Grace comments : we already grant create privileges on the saslib 
schema. So it means they can this scrap by themselves ???


No, you have to be a superuser to install C functions, because they have 
*total* access to all of PostgreSQL and can bypass all security and 
authentication completely.


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Re: [GENERAL] How to create c language in postgresql database. Thanks.

2012-06-12 Thread Chris Travers
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
 On 06/12/12 11:25 AM, leaf_yxj wrote:

 Thanks. You guys are right. I check the database. The C programm is there.
   - but why our application team keep ask me to give them the superuser
 privileges to create the C function. Should they use the superuser to create
 the C function. if yes , why they need it?


 yes, only a sql superuser can define a C function, as these have total
 access to crashing postgres's innards.

Not just the innards, but the file system (could be used to overwrite
data files), arbitrary system commands, etc..

Best Wishes,
Chris Travers

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[GENERAL] Create view is not accepting the parameter in postgres functions

2012-06-12 Thread Divyaprakash Y
Hi,

 

Is the following postgres function correct?

 

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION MyFun(IdArgs INTEGER)

RETURNS SETOF B AS

$BODY$

CREATE VIEW A  AS SELECT * FROM B WHERE Id = $1;

SELECT * FROM B;

$BODY$

  LANGUAGE 'sql' VOLATILE

  COST 100;

ALTER FUNCTION MyFun(INTEGER) OWNER TO postgres;

 

Where B is a table in the DB schema.

 

 

Executing select * from MyFun(1)  throws the following error:

 

ERROR:  there is no parameter $1

LINE 2: ...W A AS SELECT * FROM B WHERE Id = $1;

 



 

Where as the following function works fine:

 

CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION MyFun(IdArgs INTEGER)

RETURNS SETOF B AS

$BODY$

CREATE VIEW A  AS SELECT * FROM B WHERE Id = 1;

SELECT * FROM B;

$BODY$

  LANGUAGE 'sql' VOLATILE

  COST 100;

ALTER FUNCTION MyFun(INTEGER) OWNER TO postgres;

 

Where Id is hardcoded within the function.

 

Is this expected? Please reply.

 

Regards,

DP

 


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Re: [GENERAL] Problem installing extensions on Lion

2012-06-12 Thread Stefan Schwarzer
 I upgraded my machine from Snow Leopard to Lion, and ran, as usual, into 
 some Postgres update problems.
 
 I used Kyngchaos libraries for all frameworks and Postgres. Now, I'd like to 
 install the tablefunc/crosstab function.
 
 But the make process gives me this:
 
 Looks like your dev env is broken or incomplete. 

Thanks for that. But what does that mean more exactly? What can I do about it?

Thanks for any hints!
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Re: [GENERAL] Question about load balance

2012-06-12 Thread Condor

On 2012-06-12 10:48, John R Pierce wrote:

On 06/11/12 11:29 PM, Condor wrote:
I think I'm trying to learn information what is the technique for 
managing large databases

not to philosophize what was my server.


you handle large databases with a lot of fast disk, and memory, this
gets you into the terabytes.

clustering/load balancing would not do for this, other than needing
MORE fast disk (N replicas require N times the disk system of one
database).   clustering can provide active/slave failover for high
availability, or it can provide replicas for balancing read queries.
updates have to be made to all the replicas, so they wont be any
faster than a single server (in fact, will be slower due to the
overhead of replication

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Thanks, I thought so, but I was not sure whether this is a better 
option.


H.


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