[GENERAL] Incomplete startup packet help needed

2012-01-23 Thread David Johnston
Immediately upon starting the server I get an "incomplete startup packet" log 
message.  Just prior there is an "autovacuum launcher started" message.

Any thoughts?

David J.



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Re: [GENERAL] Incomplete startup packet help needed

2012-01-23 Thread John R Pierce

On 01/23/12 4:24 PM, David Johnston wrote:

Immediately upon starting the server I get an "incomplete startup packet" log message.  
Just prior there is an "autovacuum launcher started" message.

Any thoughts?


based on the given information:  something is probably wrong.






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Re: [GENERAL] Incomplete startup packet help needed

2012-01-23 Thread Adrian Klaver
On Monday, January 23, 2012 4:24:50 pm David Johnston wrote:
> Immediately upon starting the server I get an "incomplete startup packet"
> log message.  Just prior there is an "autovacuum launcher started"
> message.

Do you have other programs connecting to server on startup?

> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> David J.

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Re: [GENERAL] Incomplete startup packet help needed

2012-01-23 Thread David Boreham

On 1/23/2012 5:24 PM, David Johnston wrote:

Immediately upon starting the server I get an "incomplete startup packet" log message.  
Just prior there is an "autovacuum launcher started" message.

We've found that this message is printed in the log if a client makes a 
TCP connection to the PG server, but sends no traffic.
For example it happens with our monitoring system, which checks that it 
can open a TCP connection to the PG port, then

closes it.



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Re: [GENERAL] Incomplete startup packet help needed

2012-01-23 Thread David Johnston
On Jan 23, 2012, at 19:38, Adrian Klaver  wrote:

> On Monday, January 23, 2012 4:24:50 pm David Johnston wrote:
>> Immediately upon starting the server I get an "incomplete startup packet"
>> log message.  Just prior there is an "autovacuum launcher started"
>> message.
> 
> Do you have other programs connecting to server on startup?
> 
>> 
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> David J.
> 
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> 

I have 3 external machines that hit this server plus Apache Tomcat on the same 
machine.  I shutdown Tomcat during the restart.  Possible a zombie (or 
hidden/forgotten) process is running though the log indicates local.  Had been 
using pg_admin3 for testing and somehow ended up with a possible zombie process 
there so maybe...

Version 9.0.x - can get the release a little later, running pg_dump at the 
moment.

Still researching/learning but was using WAL shipping and the ship command was 
failing.  In the target directory the most recent WAL files is only ~2MB in 
size (can't check the pg_xlog directory at the moment).  My guess is size quota 
on target but cannot check at the moment.  Turned off WAL archive and restarted 
the server.  Restarted a couple of times until I remembered to shutdown all the 
other applications.

Pg_dump seems to be running OK and was able to execute queries.  Was still 
having difficulty getting my Tomcat software to connect but am unsure if I'm 
just missing something or what.  No obvious messages in either log about that 
but cannot get back to it until the dump completes.

Appreciate any help that can be given.  Unfortunately I haven't focused enough 
attention on Linux (Ubuntu 10.4 LTE) and PostgreSQL administration as I'd like 
(education and/or professional services).  Apparently that is going to change 
sooner than I had thought.

David J.




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Re: [GENERAL] Incomplete startup packet help needed

2012-01-23 Thread David Johnston
GOOD NEWS

On Jan 23, 2012, at 20:00, David Johnston  wrote:

> On Jan 23, 2012, at 19:38, Adrian Klaver  wrote:
> 
>> On Monday, January 23, 2012 4:24:50 pm David Johnston wrote:
>>> Immediately upon starting the server I get an "incomplete startup packet"
>>> log message.  Just prior there is an "autovacuum launcher started"
>>> message.
>> 
>> Do you have other programs connecting to server on startup?
>> 
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> David J.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Adrian Klaver
>> adrian.kla...@gmail.com
>> 
> 
> I have 3 external machines that hit this server plus Apache Tomcat on the 
> same machine.  I shutdown Tomcat during the restart.  Possible a zombie (or 
> hidden/forgotten) process is running though the log indicates local.  Had 
> been using pg_admin3 for testing and somehow ended up with a possible zombie 
> process there so maybe...
> 
> Version 9.0.x - can get the release a little later, running pg_dump at the 
> moment.
> 
> Still researching/learning but was using WAL shipping and the ship command 
> was failing.  In the target directory the most recent WAL files is only ~2MB 
> in size (can't check the pg_xlog directory at the moment).  My guess is size 
> quota on target but cannot check at the moment.  Turned off WAL archive and 
> restarted the server.  Restarted a couple of times until I remembered to 
> shutdown all the other applications.
> 
> Pg_dump seems to be running OK and was able to execute queries.  Was still 
> having difficulty getting my Tomcat software to connect but am unsure if I'm 
> just missing something or what.  No obvious messages in either log about that 
> but cannot get back to it until the dump completes.
> 
> Appreciate any help that can be given.  Unfortunately I haven't focused 
> enough attention on Linux (Ubuntu 10.4 LTE) and PostgreSQL administration as 
> I'd like (education and/or professional services).  Apparently that is going 
> to change sooner than I had thought.
> 
> David J.
> 

Looking at my process viewer I saw a Java process running (with Catalina...) 
even though I supposedly shutdown Tomcat.  Since Tomcat wasn't working anyway I 
decided to just kill the process then restart PostgreSQL...no more spurious 
error message.  Restarted Tomcat and I can now hit my Servlet.

Just need to get the base backup and WAL shipping enabled again.  Assuming 
since I disabled it, and just ran a pg_dump while everything was disconnected, 
that I can basically throw out the shipped WAL files?

Still kinda at a loss for root cause and deciding whether there still may be an 
underlying problem. Thoughts are welcome but I'm likely to seek professional 
help on this one regardless.

Thanks for listening.

David J.
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Re: [GENERAL] Incomplete startup packet help needed

2012-01-23 Thread Adrian Klaver
On Monday, January 23, 2012 5:00:17 pm David Johnston wrote:
> On Jan 23, 2012, at 19:38, Adrian Klaver  wrote:
> > On Monday, January 23, 2012 4:24:50 pm David Johnston wrote:
> >> Immediately upon starting the server I get an "incomplete startup
> >> packet" log message.  Just prior there is an "autovacuum launcher
> >> started" message.
> > 
> > Do you have other programs connecting to server on startup?
> > 
> >> Any thoughts?
> >> 
> >> David J.
> 
> I have 3 external machines that hit this server plus Apache Tomcat on the
> same machine.  I shutdown Tomcat during the restart.  Possible a zombie
> (or hidden/forgotten) process is running though the log indicates local. 
> Had been using pg_admin3 for testing and somehow ended up with a possible
> zombie process there so maybe...
> 
> Version 9.0.x - can get the release a little later, running pg_dump at the
> moment.
> 
> Still researching/learning but was using WAL shipping and the ship command
> was failing.  In the target directory the most recent WAL files is only
> ~2MB in size (can't check the pg_xlog directory at the moment).  My guess
> is size quota on target but cannot check at the moment.  Turned off WAL
> archive and restarted the server.  Restarted a couple of times until I
> remembered to shutdown all the other applications.
> 
> Pg_dump seems to be running OK and was able to execute queries.  Was still
> having difficulty getting my Tomcat software to connect but am unsure if
> I'm just missing something or what.  No obvious messages in either log
> about that but cannot get back to it until the dump completes.
> 
> Appreciate any help that can be given.  Unfortunately I haven't focused
> enough attention on Linux (Ubuntu 10.4 LTE) and PostgreSQL administration
> as I'd like (education and/or professional services).  Apparently that is
> going to change sooner than I had thought.

Alright alot going on. Searching for the error message tends to indicate what 
others have said, there is something basically pinging the server with 'empty' 
packets. Given everything you going on right now I would probably wait until 
the 
server has attained a more quiescent state before tracking down the culprit. At 
guess it not something that is server threatening, but worthy of attention. 
Once 
the dump is complete and if it is possible, shut down the server. Go through 
and 
make sure the programs hitting the server are shut down, for now at least that 
probably should include the WAL archiving. Start the server up, tail -f the log 
and then start up the client programs one at a time and see if any of them 
tickle the error.

> 
> David J.

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Re: [GENERAL] Incomplete startup packet help needed

2012-01-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* David Johnston:

> Immediately upon starting the server I get an "incomplete startup
> packet" log message.  Just prior there is an "autovacuum launcher
> started" message.

Like this?

2012-01-23 10:42:55.245 UTC 11545   LOG:  database system is ready to accept 
connections
2012-01-23 10:42:55.245 UTC 11549   LOG:  autovacuum launcher started
2012-01-23 10:42:55.268 UTC 11551 [unknown] [unknown] LOG:  incomplete startup 
packet

I think it's harmless, it's been there for years.  It might be related
to the init script that starts the database server.

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Re: [GENERAL] Incomplete startup packet help needed

2012-01-25 Thread Achilleas Mantzios
We have it too.
I think it might be samba related, or just some SNMP software running.
I had indentifed the root of the situation some years ago, do not remember it 
now.
It is 100% harmless.

On Τρι 24 Ιαν 2012 10:26:25 Florian Weimer wrote:
> * David Johnston:
> > Immediately upon starting the server I get an "incomplete startup
> > packet" log message.  Just prior there is an "autovacuum launcher
> > started" message.
> 
> Like this?
> 
> 2012-01-23 10:42:55.245 UTC 11545   LOG:  database system is ready to
> accept connections 2012-01-23 10:42:55.245 UTC 11549   LOG:  autovacuum
> launcher started 2012-01-23 10:42:55.268 UTC 11551 [unknown] [unknown]
> LOG:  incomplete startup packet
> 
> I think it's harmless, it's been there for years.  It might be related
> to the init script that starts the database server.

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