Re: [GENERAL] Inconsistent query performance

2013-04-09 Thread Ramsey Gurley

On Apr 8, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Kevin Grittner wrote:

 Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com wrote:
 
 I'm having issues with slow queries using postgres, and I'm
 finding some of the issues difficult to reproduce. My application
 logs slow queries for me, but often, when I go back to run explain
 analyze on the query it is very fast. I assume this is due to some
 sort of caching.
 
 expression took 20147 ms:
 
 SELECT t0.appointment_id, t0.customer_id, t0.event_date,
 t0.patient_id, t0.transaction_id
FROM customer.customer_transactions_detail t0
WHERE (t0.patient_id = 7441 AND t0.customer_id = 2965)
 
 Index Scan using customer_id_patient_id_idx on customer_transactions_detail 
 t0
 (cost=0.00..10.22 rows=1 width=24)
 (actual time=35.952..99.487 rows=14 loops=1)
   Index Cond: ((customer_id = 2965) AND (patient_id = 7441))
 Total runtime: 99.537 ms
 
 So it took 20 seconds at 12:18pm today, but now it takes ~100ms.
 
 Well, often when you get a faster run time when running a query
 again it is due to caching, but there are other things which can
 come into play.  There could be blocking.  There could be a glut of
 disk writes at checkpoint time which holds up all other disk I/O.

Is there a way to make checkpoints happen more frequently so that large ones 
don't cause two minute delays?

 You could have had a badly bloated index when the query was run the
 first time, and a VACUUM command or autovacuum cleaned things up
 before your explain analyze.

I did run a vacuum on the entire database the day before. I don't know if I 
have auto-vacuuming set up.

 
 I'm currently using postgres 8.3.x
 
 That was much more vulnerable to the write glut problem than
 versions which are still in support. 

I'm in the process of upgrading to 9.2.x. I'm also moving the database to a 
dedicated machine with more RAM available to the database. So maybe a less 
crufty setup in another week or two.

 It's hard to even suggest
 what steps to take next without knowing the OS, your hardware, or
 your configuration.  Please read these two pages:
 
 http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning/
 
 http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/SlowQueryQuestions

Thanks for the suggestions Kevin :)

 
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Re: [GENERAL] Inconsistent query performance

2013-04-09 Thread Ramsey Gurley

On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jeff Janes wrote:

 On Monday, April 8, 2013, Ramsey Gurley wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm having issues with slow queries using postgres, and I'm finding some of 
 the issues difficult to reproduce. My application logs slow queries for me, 
 but often, when I go back to run explain analyze on the query it is very 
 fast. I assume this is due to some sort of caching. Here is an example:
 
 sqlLogging _valuesForSQL ran 116509ms with sql string:
 
 I think that your IO subsystem is getting congested on occasion, and that you 
 have a selection bias.  You are seeing in your log the occasions on which 
 it is running slow, but not seeing the occasions it is running fast.  When 
 you run it manually, you see a result similar to the (invisible, but 
 frequent) times that it did not run slow. 

I think you're right about this. It seems to run fast most of the time. It's 
those times it takes 2 minutes to respond to a customer which I'd like to 
minimize or eliminate. 

But I think caching has a bit to do with it too. I can go back to the logs from 
last week and run a slow query and it will frequently be equally slow again. 
Not always, but enough that I think something else is wrong with my setup.

 
 You should monitor with sar, or iostat, or vmstat, or similar.

I'll look into that. Thanks Jeff :)

 
 Cheers,
 
 Jeff



[GENERAL] Inconsistent query performance

2013-04-08 Thread Ramsey Gurley
Hi all,

I'm having issues with slow queries using postgres, and I'm finding some of the 
issues difficult to reproduce. My application logs slow queries for me, but 
often, when I go back to run explain analyze on the query it is very fast. I 
assume this is due to some sort of caching. Here is an example:

sqlLogging _valuesForSQL ran 116509ms with sql string: 

select t1.transaction_id, t1.campaign_definition_id, t1.campaign_detail_number, 
t2.name as campaign_name, t1.communication_type, t1.delivery_error, 
t1.call_result into temporary activity_transactions_temp from 
customer.customer_transactions t1, campaign.campaign_definitions t2 where 
t1.customer_id = 2577 and t1.timestamp = '04/08/2013' and t1.timestamp  
'04/09/2013'  and t1.campaign_definition_id = 23   and 
t1.campaign_definition_id = t2.campaign_definition_id order by campaign_name, 
communication_type;

But if I run an explain analyze on that I get

Sort  (cost=18.08..18.08 rows=1 width=89) (actual time=767.051..767.061 
rows=17 loops=1)
  Sort Key: t2.name, t1.communication_type
  Sort Method:  quicksort  Memory: 26kB
  -  Nested Loop  (cost=0.00..18.07 rows=1 width=89) (actual 
time=758.421..766.881 rows=17 loops=1)
-  Index Scan using timestamp_only_ndx on customer_transactions t1  
(cost=0.00..9.79 rows=1 width=69) (actual time=79.771..88.119 rows=17 loops=1)
  Index Cond: ((timestamp = '2013-04-08 00:00:00'::timestamp 
without time zone) AND (timestamp  '2013-04-09 00:00:00'::timestamp without 
time zone))
  Filter: ((customer_id = 2577) AND (campaign_definition_id = 23))
-  Index Scan using campaign_definitions_campaign_definition_id_key 
on campaign_definitions t2  (cost=0.00..8.27 rows=1 width=24) (actual 
time=39.922..39.923 rows=1 loops=17)
  Index Cond: (t2.campaign_definition_id = 23)
Total runtime: 770.830 ms

Is there anything that can tell me why this query took 117 seconds, and what, 
if anything, can be done to fix it?

Here's another much more simple one:

expression took 20147 ms:

SELECT t0.appointment_id, t0.customer_id, t0.event_date, t0.patient_id, 
t0.transaction_id FROM customer.customer_transactions_detail t0 WHERE 
(t0.patient_id = 7441 AND t0.customer_id = 2965)

Index Scan using customer_id_patient_id_idx on customer_transactions_detail t0 
 (cost=0.00..10.22 rows=1 width=24) (actual time=35.952..99.487 rows=14 
loops=1)
  Index Cond: ((customer_id = 2965) AND (patient_id = 7441))
Total runtime: 99.537 ms

So it took 20 seconds at 12:18pm today, but now it takes ~100ms. 

Thanks,

Ramsey

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Re: [GENERAL] Inconsistent query performance

2013-04-08 Thread Ramsey Gurley
I forgot to mention. I'm currently using postgres 8.3.x

On Apr 8, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm having issues with slow queries using postgres, and I'm finding some of 
 the issues difficult to reproduce. My application logs slow queries for me, 
 but often, when I go back to run explain analyze on the query it is very 
 fast. I assume this is due to some sort of caching. Here is an example:
 
 sqlLogging _valuesForSQL ran 116509ms with sql string: 
 
 select t1.transaction_id, t1.campaign_definition_id, 
 t1.campaign_detail_number, t2.name as campaign_name, t1.communication_type, 
 t1.delivery_error, t1.call_result into temporary activity_transactions_temp 
 from customer.customer_transactions t1, campaign.campaign_definitions t2 
 where t1.customer_id = 2577 and t1.timestamp = '04/08/2013' and t1.timestamp 
  '04/09/2013'  and t1.campaign_definition_id = 23   and 
 t1.campaign_definition_id = t2.campaign_definition_id order by campaign_name, 
 communication_type;
 
 But if I run an explain analyze on that I get
 
 Sort  (cost=18.08..18.08 rows=1 width=89) (actual time=767.051..767.061 
 rows=17 loops=1)
   Sort Key: t2.name, t1.communication_type
   Sort Method:  quicksort  Memory: 26kB
   -  Nested Loop  (cost=0.00..18.07 rows=1 width=89) (actual 
 time=758.421..766.881 rows=17 loops=1)
 -  Index Scan using timestamp_only_ndx on customer_transactions t1  
 (cost=0.00..9.79 rows=1 width=69) (actual time=79.771..88.119 rows=17 
 loops=1)
   Index Cond: ((timestamp = '2013-04-08 00:00:00'::timestamp 
 without time zone) AND (timestamp  '2013-04-09 00:00:00'::timestamp 
 without time zone))
   Filter: ((customer_id = 2577) AND (campaign_definition_id = 
 23))
 -  Index Scan using campaign_definitions_campaign_definition_id_key 
 on campaign_definitions t2  (cost=0.00..8.27 rows=1 width=24) (actual 
 time=39.922..39.923 rows=1 loops=17)
   Index Cond: (t2.campaign_definition_id = 23)
 Total runtime: 770.830 ms
 
 Is there anything that can tell me why this query took 117 seconds, and what, 
 if anything, can be done to fix it?
 
 Here's another much more simple one:
 
 expression took 20147 ms:
 
 SELECT t0.appointment_id, t0.customer_id, t0.event_date, t0.patient_id, 
 t0.transaction_id FROM customer.customer_transactions_detail t0 WHERE 
 (t0.patient_id = 7441 AND t0.customer_id = 2965)
 
 Index Scan using customer_id_patient_id_idx on customer_transactions_detail 
 t0  (cost=0.00..10.22 rows=1 width=24) (actual time=35.952..99.487 rows=14 
 loops=1)
   Index Cond: ((customer_id = 2965) AND (patient_id = 7441))
 Total runtime: 99.537 ms
 
 So it took 20 seconds at 12:18pm today, but now it takes ~100ms. 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ramsey



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Re: [GENERAL] Inconsistent query performance

2013-04-08 Thread Kevin Grittner
Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com wrote:

 I'm having issues with slow queries using postgres, and I'm
 finding some of the issues difficult to reproduce. My application
 logs slow queries for me, but often, when I go back to run explain
 analyze on the query it is very fast. I assume this is due to some
 sort of caching.

 expression took 20147 ms:

 SELECT t0.appointment_id, t0.customer_id, t0.event_date,
    t0.patient_id, t0.transaction_id
   FROM customer.customer_transactions_detail t0
   WHERE (t0.patient_id = 7441 AND t0.customer_id = 2965)

 Index Scan using customer_id_patient_id_idx on customer_transactions_detail 
 t0
    (cost=0.00..10.22 rows=1 width=24)
    (actual time=35.952..99.487 rows=14 loops=1)
   Index Cond: ((customer_id = 2965) AND (patient_id = 7441))
 Total runtime: 99.537 ms

 So it took 20 seconds at 12:18pm today, but now it takes ~100ms.

Well, often when you get a faster run time when running a query
again it is due to caching, but there are other things which can
come into play.  There could be blocking.  There could be a glut of
disk writes at checkpoint time which holds up all other disk I/O.
You could have had a badly bloated index when the query was run the
first time, and a VACUUM command or autovacuum cleaned things up
before your explain analyze.

 I'm currently using postgres 8.3.x

That was much more vulnerable to the write glut problem than
versions which are still in support.  It's hard to even suggest
what steps to take next without knowing the OS, your hardware, or
your configuration.  Please read these two pages:

http://www.postgresql.org/support/versioning/

http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/SlowQueryQuestions

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EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
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Re: [GENERAL] Inconsistent query performance

2013-04-08 Thread Jeff Janes
On Monday, April 8, 2013, Ramsey Gurley wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm having issues with slow queries using postgres, and I'm finding some
 of the issues difficult to reproduce. My application logs slow queries for
 me, but often, when I go back to run explain analyze on the query it is
 very fast. I assume this is due to some sort of caching. Here is an example:

 sqlLogging _valuesForSQL ran 116509ms with sql string:


I think that your IO subsystem is getting congested on occasion, and that
you have a selection bias.  You are seeing in your log the occasions on
which it is running slow, but not seeing the occasions it is running fast.
 When you run it manually, you see a result similar to the (invisible, but
frequent) times that it did not run slow.

You should monitor with sar, or iostat, or vmstat, or similar.

Cheers,

Jeff