Re: [GENERAL] LATERAL query extreme slow due to partition

2015-09-08 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Tom Smith  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Merlin Moncure  wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Tom Smith 
>> > How to force query planner "dynamically" generate plan to
>> > for each lateral select query as "t" changes.
>>
>> I think you're asking to much of the planner here.  The query is
>> planned first and executed second.  Because of that partitioning
>> generally depends on specific values, not dynamic ones, for exclusion
>> to take effect.  I would consider rewriting to loop and see if that
>> helps.
>
> Almost all lateral query would be "dynamic sql" since it will vary as left
> value changes.
> perhaps query planner can mark it as "deferred" and during execution,
> replacing the original planning with a newly generated plan.
> Or we have to say lateral feature is not suitable for partitioned table.

Lateral works fine with partitioned tables.  The underlying problem is
how constraint exclusion works; it depends on being able to examine
the query without executing it and from there plan it out.  There are
a lot of ways to break this besides lateral.  For example, suppose you
have a table partitioned on id:

SELECT * FROM foo WHERE id = 1; <- CE works
SELECT * FROM foo JOIN bar USING (id); <- CE will not work, even if
bar only has one record with id = 1

The rule that planning shall not depend on execution is very unlikely
to change.

merlin


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Re: [GENERAL] LATERAL query extreme slow due to partition

2015-09-08 Thread Tom Smith
Almost all lateral query would be "dynamic sql" since it will vary as left
value changes.
perhaps query planner can mark it as "deferred" and during execution,
replacing the original planning with a newly generated plan.
Or we have to say lateral feature is not suitable for partitioned table.


On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 3:51 PM, Merlin Moncure  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Tom Smith 
> wrote:
> > Hi:
> >
> > I am using the wonderful  lateral query  feature like the following
> >
> > select * from generate_series (1,10,5) T(t),
> >lateral (select * from P where t between  t and t +  3)
> >
> > P is a parent table of a hundred partitions
> > the idea is to for each t value from 1 to 10 with step of 5,
> > get rows from P (in one or two of its partitions) that  between
> > the current value of t and t+3,
> > so each lateral select should only index scan one or two partitons
> > but the query plan shows that each will scan all hundred paritions,
> > I think due to its unable to determine the range since
> > the query is select * from P where t between  t and t +  3
> > as "t" is unknown at the time of parsing.
> >
> > How to force query planner "dynamically" generate plan to
> > for each lateral select query as "t" changes.
>
> I think you're asking to much of the planner here.  The query is
> planned first and executed second.  Because of that partitioning
> generally depends on specific values, not dynamic ones, for exclusion
> to take effect.  I would consider rewriting to loop and see if that
> helps.
>


Re: [GENERAL] LATERAL query extreme slow due to partition

2015-09-08 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 12:07 AM, Tom Smith  wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I am using the wonderful  lateral query  feature like the following
>
> select * from generate_series (1,10,5) T(t),
>lateral (select * from P where t between  t and t +  3)
>
> P is a parent table of a hundred partitions
> the idea is to for each t value from 1 to 10 with step of 5,
> get rows from P (in one or two of its partitions) that  between
> the current value of t and t+3,
> so each lateral select should only index scan one or two partitons
> but the query plan shows that each will scan all hundred paritions,
> I think due to its unable to determine the range since
> the query is select * from P where t between  t and t +  3
> as "t" is unknown at the time of parsing.
>
> How to force query planner "dynamically" generate plan to
> for each lateral select query as "t" changes.

I think you're asking to much of the planner here.  The query is
planned first and executed second.  Because of that partitioning
generally depends on specific values, not dynamic ones, for exclusion
to take effect.  I would consider rewriting to loop and see if that
helps.


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[GENERAL] LATERAL query extreme slow due to partition

2015-09-06 Thread Tom Smith
Hi:

I am using the wonderful  lateral query  feature like the following

select * from generate_series (1,10,5) T(t),
   lateral (select * from P where t between  t and t +  3)

P is a parent table of a hundred partitions
the idea is to for each t value from 1 to 10 with step of 5,
get rows from P (in one or two of its partitions) that  between
the current value of t and t+3,
so each lateral select should only index scan one or two partitons
but the query plan shows that each will scan all hundred paritions,
I think due to its unable to determine the range since
the query is select * from P where t between  t and t +  3
as "t" is unknown at the time of parsing.

How to force query planner "dynamically" generate plan to
for each lateral select query as "t" changes.

Thanks