Re: [GENERAL] More Red Hat information
Hi, David Wheeler: > M$ is a good example, as their database is quite capable, and costs only a > few hundred bucks (last time I looked). If RedHat DB is three times the > price, IME many PHBs will go with SQL Server, instead, just because it's > cheaper, and they know the Microsoft name (and FUD). > RHDB has a price tag of zero if all you need is the database. This is not what I was talking about, though. -- Matthias Urlichs | noris network AG | http://smurf.noris.de/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [GENERAL] More Red Hat information
> > In my experience DB pricing structures seem to be a mystery whichever > > platform you look at :) > > 20k per CPU. See: Word is that the 2006 Microsoft automobiles will have similar pricing structures. You'll pay $8,000 per year for each "seat-license" that you want, and another $2,000 per year for each 10 mph above 30 that you want to be able to drive... steve ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [GENERAL] More Red Hat information
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I agree. How is a person supposed to count the number of users if the database > is being used to support a public dynamic web site? Is the company supposed to > buy a separate license for every unique IP address that ever hits a dynamic web > page on the site? I can see licensing per server, or even per CPU, but > licensing any server application per user quickly becomes ridiculous when the > server is supporting any internet application. I posted the cost of 4D licence for web connected database and 10 local clients a few days ago: about $4475 Cheers Tony Grant -- RedHat Linux on Sony Vaio C1XD/S http://www.animaproductions.com/linux2.html Macromedia UltraDev with PostgreSQL http://www.animaproductions.com/ultra.html ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [GENERAL] More Red Hat information
I agree. How is a person supposed to count the number of users if the database is being used to support a public dynamic web site? Is the company supposed to buy a separate license for every unique IP address that ever hits a dynamic web page on the site? I can see licensing per server, or even per CPU, but licensing any server application per user quickly becomes ridiculous when the server is supporting any internet application. [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 06/26/2001 11:14:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Wesley Sheldahl/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: Re: [GENERAL] More Red Hat information Hmm, M$ SQL may be a few hundered $ for a couple of user licenses but last time I looked it was at least £7000 (about $10,000?) for a 100 user license. Thats not the enterprise edition either. In my experience DB pricing structures seem to be a mystery whichever platform you look at :) MC. > At 8:57 -0700 2001-06-25, David Wheeler wrote: > >On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > >> Here is a link with more information than the press release: > >> > >> http://www.redhat.com/products/software/database/ > > > >$2225 Are they *kidding*??? > > If they really deliver, i.e. you get reasonable phone+email support > from people who can actually _do_something_ instead of giving you the > runaround (phoned M$ tech support lately with a _real_ bug report? > *), it's cheap as dirt as databases go. M$ is a good example, as their database is quite capable, and costs only a few hundred bucks (last time I looked). If RedHat DB is three times the price, IME many PHBs will go with SQL Server, instead, just because it's cheaper, and they know the Microsoft name (and FUD). David -- David Wheeler AIM: dwTheory [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 15726394 Yahoo!: dew7e Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly -- NOTICE: The information contained in this electronic mail transmission is intended by Convergys Corporation for the use of the named individual or entity to which it is directed and may contain information that is privileged or otherwise confidential. If you have received this electronic mail transmission in error, please delete it from your system without copying or forwarding it, and notify the sender of the error by reply email or by telephone (collect), so that the sender's address records can be corrected. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send "unregister YourEmailAddressHere" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
Re: [GENERAL] More Red Hat information
At 8:57 -0700 2001-06-25, David Wheeler wrote: >On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > >> Here is a link with more information than the press release: >> >> http://www.redhat.com/products/software/database/ > >$2225 Are they *kidding*??? If they really deliver, i.e. you get reasonable phone+email support from people who can actually _do_something_ instead of giving you the runaround (phoned M$ tech support lately with a _real_ bug report? *), it's cheap as dirt as databases go. *: Oops, sorry, of course M$ doesn't have bugs. They might have "issues". Or "features". -- Matthias Urlichs ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, webb sprague wrote: > > > > > I guess I prefer my free software free... > > > > Agreed, but alot of companies want to be able to point a finger at > > someone or some company when something goes awry. With RH being > > the first to put out PostgreSQL with an operating system that I would > > assume was fine tuned for best performance by those that know the > > OS very well and possibly even include some tools along with it, I'd > > think their offering would be well received in the small to medium > > sized business community. > > Heck, I pay ~400/year for BSD/OS support on my home machine because when > I have a complex problem, I need someone to concentrate on getting it > solved, so commerical support isn't just for finger-pointing. > > The $400/year has been worth it for me so I suspect there are PostgreSQL > users that need such support too. I didn't mean someone to blame, I meant someone to call. Vince. -- == Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSHemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pop4.net 56K Nationwide Dialup from $16.00/mo at Pop4 Networking Online Campground Directoryhttp://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstorehttp://www.cloudninegifts.com == ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
