Re: [GENERAL] Most efficient way to initialize a standby server

2013-05-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake


On 05/27/2013 08:13 PM, Edson Richter wrote:



I think the use of PITRTools is probably up your alley here.

JD


Assume I know nothing about PITRTools (which I really don't know!), can
you elaborate a bit more your suggestion?


It is an open source tool specificaly for working with PITR/Streaming 
Replication/Hot Standby


https://public.commandprompt.com/projects/pitrtools/wiki

JD




Thanks,

Edson






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Re: [GENERAL] Most efficient way to initialize a standby server

2013-05-27 Thread Edson Richter

Em 28/05/2013 00:03, Joshua D. Drake escreveu:


On 05/27/2013 05:43 PM, Sergey Konoplev wrote:


Try this step-by-step instruction
https://code.google.com/p/pgcookbook/wiki/Streaming_Replication_Setup.
I constantly update it when discovering useful things, including low
bandwidth issues.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Edson Richter 
 wrote:
Since 9.0 days I do use script with rsync for transfer. And 
sometimes the
servers get out of sync (due large processing in master database and 
huge

network latency), and I have to reinitialize the standby server.


I think the use of PITRTools is probably up your alley here.

JD

Assume I know nothing about PITRTools (which I really don't know!), can 
you elaborate a bit more your suggestion?


Thanks,

Edson


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Re: [GENERAL] Most efficient way to initialize a standby server

2013-05-27 Thread Edson Richter

Em 27/05/2013 21:43, Sergey Konoplev escreveu:

Try this step-by-step instruction
https://code.google.com/p/pgcookbook/wiki/Streaming_Replication_Setup.
I constantly update it when discovering useful things, including low
bandwidth issues.


Thanks. This is a good idea, of course!
I also have a lot of lessons learned, I think I should write down somewhere.



On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Edson Richter  wrote:

Since 9.0 days I do use script with rsync for transfer. And sometimes the
servers get out of sync (due large processing in master database and huge
network latency), and I have to reinitialize the standby server.

WAL stream is not compressed and quite bloated by its nature. You can
use SSH tunnel with compression, described in the mentioned above
instruction, and redirect your replication through it.


Ok, I've setup a compressed VPN secure tunnel that I use for replication.
Is very stable and is compressed. This should be enough.




Lately , this script take about an hour to copy all data (23GB) over the
standby server, and I would like to know if there is a more efficient way
(perhaps, using pg_basebackup?) to reinitilize the standby server.

AFAIK pg_basebackup does not use compression either when transferring
data. In this case you can also use compressed SSH tunnel with
pg_basebackup or rsync with compression enabled.

I would also like to recommend not to set the compression level too
high, because your CPU might be a bottleneck in this case, and it
might lead to even worth transfer speed that without compression. I
usually set compression level to 1 and it works quite good.


Good to know. I was thinking in using 9 - I've decent 2 Xeon processors 
with 8 cores each - but I think only one is used by gzip algorithm.


Thanks for all your tips, I'll make some testing. If I discover anything 
useful, I'll share as well.


Regards,

Edson



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Re: [GENERAL] Most efficient way to initialize a standby server

2013-05-27 Thread Joshua D. Drake


On 05/27/2013 05:43 PM, Sergey Konoplev wrote:


Try this step-by-step instruction
https://code.google.com/p/pgcookbook/wiki/Streaming_Replication_Setup.
I constantly update it when discovering useful things, including low
bandwidth issues.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Edson Richter  wrote:

Since 9.0 days I do use script with rsync for transfer. And sometimes the
servers get out of sync (due large processing in master database and huge
network latency), and I have to reinitialize the standby server.


I think the use of PITRTools is probably up your alley here.

JD



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Re: [GENERAL] Most efficient way to initialize a standby server

2013-05-27 Thread Sergey Konoplev
Try this step-by-step instruction
https://code.google.com/p/pgcookbook/wiki/Streaming_Replication_Setup.
I constantly update it when discovering useful things, including low
bandwidth issues.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Edson Richter  wrote:
> Since 9.0 days I do use script with rsync for transfer. And sometimes the
> servers get out of sync (due large processing in master database and huge
> network latency), and I have to reinitialize the standby server.

WAL stream is not compressed and quite bloated by its nature. You can
use SSH tunnel with compression, described in the mentioned above
instruction, and redirect your replication through it.

> Lately , this script take about an hour to copy all data (23GB) over the
> standby server, and I would like to know if there is a more efficient way
> (perhaps, using pg_basebackup?) to reinitilize the standby server.

AFAIK pg_basebackup does not use compression either when transferring
data. In this case you can also use compressed SSH tunnel with
pg_basebackup or rsync with compression enabled.

I would also like to recommend not to set the compression level too
high, because your CPU might be a bottleneck in this case, and it
might lead to even worth transfer speed that without compression. I
usually set compression level to 1 and it works quite good.

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[GENERAL] Most efficient way to initialize a standby server

2013-05-27 Thread Edson Richter
I've two distant servers I would like to configure async replication 
between.


Servers are running 9.2.4.

Since 9.0 days I do use script with rsync for transfer. And sometimes 
the servers get out of sync (due large processing in master database and 
huge network latency), and I have to reinitialize the standby server.


Lately , this script take about an hour to copy all data (23GB) over the 
standby server, and I would like to know if there is a more efficient 
way (perhaps, using pg_basebackup?) to reinitilize the standby server.


I've look in wiki pages and also pg_basebackup, but information on how 
to get data transfered to the remote standby server is vague.


Or should I run pg_basebackup from standby server, and the PostgreSQL 
protocol is more efficient than rsync?



Thanks,

Edson



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