Re: [GENERAL] PG windows service issues

2007-10-31 Thread Moisan Yves
Hi Oisin,

> The only similar issues I have seen was where the user was created for 
> the DB with the user must change password at next login option and this 
> caused some issues? 

I checked and I have the option "never change password checked".  However, for 
the user I used for the previous 8.0 install (postgres, the one for 8.2 is 
postgres82) the user must change password at next login option was checked.  


> Also if I removed and reinstalled PostgreSQL in some 
> of the older 8.0.X?? versions it complained as it tried to create the 
> postgres user account when it already existed.

Same here.  So I went and created another user (postgres82).



> I am installing PostgreSQL 8.0.x 8.1.x and 8.2.x on Windows 2000 Pro and 
> Server, Windows XP and Windows 2003 Server without issue.
> Are you deinstalling and reinstalling on the same machine over and over?

Yes.

> Does the postgres windows user still exist after the deinstall?

Yes

That was the whole point of the original email : how come a previous install 
either does not uninstall all it has to or can't reuse stuff from the previous 
install (e.g. the user postgreSQL runs under) ?  Also, I find the "usage of 
users" (database user vs superuser) confusing, but that's most probably just me 
not understanding who does what.  

It seems to me the postgreSQL install on Windows does not provide "sensible 
defaults" : the port is disabled on the host machine ??  I can see the security 
concerns of not opening everything up, but it is awkward to have to Google some 
information and find out one has to tweak conf files just to get it working.  
Or did I miss something obvious in the install dialogs ?

One thing I should point out is that I'm Québec, so we use the "French Canada" 
settings.  Could it be localisation issues not completely resolved in the 
installer ?

Thanx for your help.

Yves



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Re: [GENERAL] PG windows service issues

2007-10-30 Thread Oisin Glynn

Yves Moisan wrote:

Hi All,

I'm new to this list.

I've set up postgreSQL on windows about 4 times since the first 8.x 
series came out.  The first time it was 8.0 beta3 IIRC.  I believe 
I've installed another in the 8.0 series, then a 8.1 then just a 
couple of weeks ago 8.2.4.  Every time I run into the same problem.  I 
get the thing to work, find out I have to hack a couple of conf files 
to allow the port to work and then when I close my machine, trying to 
restart the service fails. (I know a server isn't meant to be shutdown 
like a desktop machine, but I'm trying out PG on my desktop ...)


The only way I found to get rid of that problem is to reinitialize the 
password of the account that runs the service *every time I reboot my 
machine*.  Then I can start the service.  This is not only cumbersome, 
but it is outright dangerous.  I wonder why this happens.  I've 
installed a lot of software from the linux world as services 
(e.g.Zope) and I never encountered such problems.  How can I get rid 
of those issues ?


Sorry for the slightly whining tone of this email (I do like 
postgreSQL!), but I figured those types of issues had some time to 
settle since the 8.x series came out and they didn't.


TIA, from a user who wants to bring folks to postgreSQL on windows,

Yves Moisan


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The only similar issues I have seen was where the user was created for 
the DB with the user must change password at next login option and this 
caused some issues? Also if I removed and reinstalled PostgreSQL in some 
of the older 8.0.X?? versions it complained as it tried to create the 
postgres user account when it already existed.


I am installing PostgreSQL 8.0.x 8.1.x and 8.2.x on Windows 2000 Pro and 
Server, Windows XP and Windows 2003 Server without issue.

Are you deinstalling and reinstalling on the same machine over and over?
Does the postgres windows user still exist after the deinstall?

Oisin


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[GENERAL] PG windows service issues

2007-10-30 Thread Yves Moisan

Hi All,

I'm new to this list.

I've set up postgreSQL on windows about 4 times since the first 8.x 
series came out.  The first time it was 8.0 beta3 IIRC.  I believe I've 
installed another in the 8.0 series, then a 8.1 then just a couple of 
weeks ago 8.2.4.  Every time I run into the same problem.  I get the 
thing to work, find out I have to hack a couple of conf files to allow 
the port to work and then when I close my machine, trying to restart the 
service fails. (I know a server isn't meant to be shutdown like a 
desktop machine, but I'm trying out PG on my desktop ...)


The only way I found to get rid of that problem is to reinitialize the 
password of the account that runs the service *every time I reboot my 
machine*.  Then I can start the service.  This is not only cumbersome, 
but it is outright dangerous.  I wonder why this happens.  I've 
installed a lot of software from the linux world as services (e.g.Zope) 
and I never encountered such problems.  How can I get rid of those issues ?


Sorry for the slightly whining tone of this email (I do like 
postgreSQL!), but I figured those types of issues had some time to 
settle since the 8.x series came out and they didn't.


TIA, from a user who wants to bring folks to postgreSQL on windows,

Yves Moisan


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