Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Docs - Community Documentation

2008-03-03 Thread Dave Page
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 5:47 AM, Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greg Smith wrote:

  Thanks to Joshua Drake and Command Prompt for providing hosting space
  and even having an appropriate domain.  To cut off one question I expect
  to pop up, yes it would be nice to have this integrated with the main
  postgresql.org site and its existing account structure.  But since
  Joshua was the only person who answered my request for hosting space I
  used the server he volunteered.  We'd be glad to move this to somewhere
  more official if that were available, I'm focused on creating the
  content and don't care where it lives at.

 Greg et al, thanks very much for taking this idea and making it a
 reality.  Since I was one of the ones who requested it, I'll sign up for
 an account right away (done).  Regarding where it lives, what is the
 constraint that prevents it from residing on the main site?  Space?  Money?

A postgresql.org wiki to replace techdocs is being worked on, per
recent discussion on -www, however it takes a little more effort than
a standalone one as we need to integrate it properly into the existing
infrastructure.

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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Docs - Community Documentation

2008-03-03 Thread Guy Rouillier

Dave Page wrote:


A postgresql.org wiki to replace techdocs is being worked on, per
recent discussion on -www, however it takes a little more effort than
a standalone one as we need to integrate it properly into the existing
infrastructure.


Dave, what is the intention of this wiki, as opposed to the Community 
Documentation that just got kicked off?


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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Docs - Community Documentation

2008-03-03 Thread Dave Page
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dave Page wrote:

  A postgresql.org wiki to replace techdocs is being worked on, per
  recent discussion on -www, however it takes a little more effort than
  a standalone one as we need to integrate it properly into the existing
  infrastructure.

 Dave, what is the intention of this wiki, as opposed to the Community
 Documentation that just got kicked off?

A replacement for Techdocs. The project that just got kicked off is
not a postgresql.org project, nor is it run by the project's
web/sysadmin teams.

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[GENERAL] PostgreSQL Docs - Community Documentation

2008-03-02 Thread Greg Smith
Last month there was a discussion about how it would be nice to have a 
place people would write user-oriented documentation at with more 
flexibility than the current Techdocs site offers.  I ran with that idea 
and there is now such a site available at http://www.postgresqldocs.org


You will need to create an account in order to submit edits, but there's 
no approval process; you'll get in instantly.  Submissions are accepted 
under the Creative Commons Attribution license.


I put in an initial outline to organize things and filled in enough 
articles that there's already useful content there.  What I plan to do is 
take all these archived e-mails I have from interesting list discussions 
and summarize a chunk of them every week onto articles there, like General 
Bits used to do (with the difference that as people notice issues with the 
suggestions it's easy to improve them).  An example of that I'd suggest as 
a reasonable format to follow for that sort of thing is at 
http://www.postgresqldocs.org/index.php/Fixing_Sequences


Thanks to Joshua Drake and Command Prompt for providing hosting space and 
even having an appropriate domain.  To cut off one question I expect to 
pop up, yes it would be nice to have this integrated with the main 
postgresql.org site and its existing account structure.  But since Joshua 
was the only person who answered my request for hosting space I used the 
server he volunteered.  We'd be glad to move this to somewhere more 
official if that were available, I'm focused on creating the content and 
don't care where it lives at.


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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Docs - Community Documentation

2008-03-02 Thread Guy Rouillier

Greg Smith wrote:

Thanks to Joshua Drake and Command Prompt for providing hosting space 
and even having an appropriate domain.  To cut off one question I expect 
to pop up, yes it would be nice to have this integrated with the main 
postgresql.org site and its existing account structure.  But since 
Joshua was the only person who answered my request for hosting space I 
used the server he volunteered.  We'd be glad to move this to somewhere 
more official if that were available, I'm focused on creating the 
content and don't care where it lives at.


Greg et al, thanks very much for taking this idea and making it a 
reality.  Since I was one of the ones who requested it, I'll sign up for 
an account right away (done).  Regarding where it lives, what is the 
constraint that prevents it from residing on the main site?  Space?  Money?


I see one addition that would be helpful to newcomers to this tool such 
as myself.  The Main Page jumps right into the PG related material; 
Getting Started refers to getting started with PG, not with getting 
started contributing to the community documentation.  I discovered that 
clicking the About PostreSQL Docs link on the bottom of the page 
produces a short intro to the purpose of the site.  Could we also get 
added to this page a sentence or two about the software that runs the 
site, and a pointer to documentation on that software?  I know, I know, 
this is user-contributed documentation, so I'm free to add that 
myself.  Hopefully you appreciate my Catch-22 ;).


About PostgreSQL Docs is an important topic, and should be elevated to 
the same list as Main Page.


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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL Docs - Community Documentation

2008-03-02 Thread Joshua D. Drake
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:47:09 -0500
Guy Rouillier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Greg et al, thanks very much for taking this idea and making it a 
 reality.  Since I was one of the ones who requested it, I'll sign up
 for an account right away (done).  Regarding where it lives, what
 is the constraint that prevents it from residing on the main site?
 Space?  Money?

Logistics. That's it. It will happen when people have time or desire.


The main site has more than enough hardware (but we can always use
more).

http://www.postgresql.org/about/servers

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake



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