Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on a CompactFlash

2008-02-06 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-01-31 12:03:00, schrieb Andre Nieder:
> Hello,
> 
>  
> 
> we like to use PostgreSQL in an embedded system that runs - don't laugh
> - on a compact flash.

I have this too...

> Therefore we need to know how often PostgreSQL will write to the disc. 

PostgreSQL in a normal installation of, e.g. a 8 GByte HighSpeed CF-Card
will kill your card in less then one month mayb arround two weeks.

> Once our system is configured there are very little changes to the
> database.

Like here...

> We have some tables in memory and some stored on the cf.
> 
> If we change a table in memory, will PosgreSQL access the cf?

Configure the PostgreSQL as needed and then create a RAM-Disk for the
data/ directory.  shutdown the PostgreSQL and tar the whole RAM-Disk
and before you start uncompress it...

> As you know a cf card has not an unlimited amount of accesses...

:-)

> So is there any reason that should prevent us from using PostgreSQL in
> combination with a compact flash?

Maybe the limit of the Memory of your system.

I am using a 3Ware 3W85xx-8 with three 1 GByte Cards (Raid-1 + Hotfix),
one singel 1 GByte Card (/var/log) and four 8 GByte Cards (Raid-5 + 
Hotfix) for the Data (the Postgresql.tar.gz and static data)

The TAR Archive is around 5 GByte (PostgreSQL has already compressed the
Stuff) and I was forced to install 12 GByte of Memory.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on a CompactFlash

2008-02-01 Thread Brar Piening

 Hi Andre,


As you know a cf card has not an unlimited amount of accesses…


Do we really know?
Or are we just repeating the same story we were told once?
I know that technically speaking you are right but the media have smart 
contollers to avoid problems with this fact.
I remember reading in a german computer journal that they were trying 
really hard to write a USB stick to death but gave up after 16 000 000 
write cycles to the same logical adress without any error.


Is there a theoretical limit or a practical one?
I'd be really interested in a real world test - does postgres work on as 
cf-card/usb-stick and how long?

If anyone has got numbers - please let me know.

Regards,

Brar





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Re: [GENERAL] PostgreSQL on a CompactFlash

2008-01-31 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2008 schrieb Andre Nieder:
> So is there any reason that should prevent us from using PostgreSQL in
> combination with a compact flash?

I suggest you review the previous discussions on this topic.  Search 
for "compact flash" on archives.postgresql.org.  You will find that 
PostgreSQL very write-happy and you might have some work to do.

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[GENERAL] PostgreSQL on a CompactFlash

2008-01-31 Thread Andre Nieder
Hello,

 

we like to use PostgreSQL in an embedded system that runs - don't laugh
- on a compact flash.

Therefore we need to know how often PostgreSQL will write to the disc. 

 

Once our system is configured there are very little changes to the
database.

We have some tables in memory and some stored on the cf.

If we change a table in memory, will PosgreSQL access the cf?

 

As you know a cf card has not an unlimited amount of accesses...

So is there any reason that should prevent us from using PostgreSQL in
combination with a compact flash?

 

 

Andre