Re: [GENERAL] Problem with initdb: creates database which do not exists

2010-10-19 Thread Torsten Zühlsdorff

Thom Brown schrieb:


initdb creates a database cluster, not a database.  [..]


Now i'm feeling like fool - this is so obviously. -.- I will stop 
posting stressed to the Usenet.


I'm sorry. Thanks for your replies and time!

Greetings,
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Re: [GENERAL] Problem with initdb: creates database which do not exists

2010-10-19 Thread David Fetter
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 08:48:13AM +0200, Torsten Zühlsdorff wrote:
 Thom Brown schrieb:
 
 initdb creates a database cluster, not a database.  [..]
 
 Now i'm feeling like fool - this is so obviously. -.- I will stop
 posting stressed to the Usenet.

Yay, an NNTP user :)

We've all been there.

Cheers,
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[GENERAL] Problem with initdb: creates database which do not exists

2010-10-18 Thread Torsten Zühlsdorff

Hello,

i'm using initdb of an PostgreSQL 8.4 installed over the port-system of 
FreeBSD:


=

 initdb foo --locale=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-collate=de_DE.UTF-8 
--lc-ctype=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-messages=de_DE.UTF-8 
--lc-monetary=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-numeric=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-time=de_DE.UTF-8

The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user thorny.
This user must also own the server process.

The database cluster will be initialized with locale de_DE.UTF-8.
The default database encoding has accordingly been set to UTF8.
The default text search configuration will be set to german.

creating directory foo ... ok
creating subdirectories ... ok
selecting default max_connections ... 100
selecting default shared_buffers ... 32MB
creating configuration files ... ok
creating template1 database in foo/base/1 ... ok
initializing pg_authid ... ok
initializing dependencies ... ok
creating system views ... ok
loading system objects' descriptions ... ok
creating conversions ... ok
creating dictionaries ... ok
setting privileges on built-in objects ... ok
creating information schema ... ok
vacuuming database template1 ... ok
copying template1 to template0 ... ok
copying template1 to postgres ... ok

WARNING: enabling trust authentication for local connections
You can change this by editing pg_hba.conf or using the -A option the
next time you run initdb.

Success. You can now start the database server using:

postgres -D foo
or
pg_ctl -D foo -l logfile start

=

After that the database is not visible:

=

 psql -l
   List of databases
Name| Owner  | Encoding | Collation | Ctype | Access privileges
++--+---+---+---
 pgsql  | pgsql  | UTF8 | C | C |
 postgres   | pgsql  | UTF8 | C | C |
 template0  | pgsql  | UTF8 | C | C | =c/pgsql
: pgsql=CTc/pgsql
 template1  | pgsql  | UTF8 | C | C | =c/pgsql
: pgsql=CTc/pgsql
(4 rows)

=

So i try again to create it:

=

 initdb foo --locale=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-collate=de_DE.UTF-8 
--lc-ctype=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-messages=de_DE.UTF-8 
--lc-monetary=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-numeric=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-time=de_DE.UTF-8

The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user thorny.
This user must also own the server process.

The database cluster will be initialized with locale de_DE.UTF-8.
The default database encoding has accordingly been set to UTF8.
The default text search configuration will be set to german.

initdb: directory foo exists but is not empty
If you want to create a new database system, either remove or empty
the directory foo or run initdb
with an argument other than foo.

=

Thats interessting. But i can't drop the database:

=

 dropdb foo
dropdb: database removal failed: ERROR:  database foo does not exist

=

So: any idea why the database is not visible? And how do get rid of the
non-existing databases ;)

Thanks for your time,
Torsten
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Re: [GENERAL] Problem with initdb: creates database which do not exists

2010-10-18 Thread Thom Brown
On 18 October 2010 15:46, Torsten Zühlsdorff f...@meisterderspiele.de wrote:
 Hello,

 i'm using initdb of an PostgreSQL 8.4 installed over the port-system of
 FreeBSD:

 =

 initdb foo --locale=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-collate=de_DE.UTF-8
 --lc-ctype=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-messages=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-monetary=de_DE.UTF-8
 --lc-numeric=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-time=de_DE.UTF-8
 The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user thorny.
 This user must also own the server process.

 The database cluster will be initialized with locale de_DE.UTF-8.
 The default database encoding has accordingly been set to UTF8.
 The default text search configuration will be set to german.

 creating directory foo ... ok
 creating subdirectories ... ok
 selecting default max_connections ... 100
 selecting default shared_buffers ... 32MB
 creating configuration files ... ok
 creating template1 database in foo/base/1 ... ok
 initializing pg_authid ... ok
 initializing dependencies ... ok
 creating system views ... ok
 loading system objects' descriptions ... ok
 creating conversions ... ok
 creating dictionaries ... ok
 setting privileges on built-in objects ... ok
 creating information schema ... ok
 vacuuming database template1 ... ok
 copying template1 to template0 ... ok
 copying template1 to postgres ... ok

 WARNING: enabling trust authentication for local connections
 You can change this by editing pg_hba.conf or using the -A option the
 next time you run initdb.

 Success. You can now start the database server using:

    postgres -D foo
 or
    pg_ctl -D foo -l logfile start

 =

 After that the database is not visible:

 =

 psql -l
                           List of databases
    Name    | Owner  | Encoding | Collation | Ctype | Access privileges
 ++--+---+---+---
  pgsql      | pgsql  | UTF8     | C         | C     |
  postgres   | pgsql  | UTF8     | C         | C     |
  template0  | pgsql  | UTF8     | C         | C     | =c/pgsql
                                                    : pgsql=CTc/pgsql
  template1  | pgsql  | UTF8     | C         | C     | =c/pgsql
                                                    : pgsql=CTc/pgsql
 (4 rows)

 =

 So i try again to create it:

 =

 initdb foo --locale=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-collate=de_DE.UTF-8
 --lc-ctype=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-messages=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-monetary=de_DE.UTF-8
 --lc-numeric=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-time=de_DE.UTF-8
 The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user thorny.
 This user must also own the server process.

 The database cluster will be initialized with locale de_DE.UTF-8.
 The default database encoding has accordingly been set to UTF8.
 The default text search configuration will be set to german.

 initdb: directory foo exists but is not empty
 If you want to create a new database system, either remove or empty
 the directory foo or run initdb
 with an argument other than foo.

 =

 Thats interessting. But i can't drop the database:

 =

 dropdb foo
 dropdb: database removal failed: ERROR:  database foo does not exist

 =

 So: any idea why the database is not visible? And how do get rid of the
 non-existing databases ;)

Hi Torsten.

initdb creates a database cluster, not a database.  What is being
listed is correct.  You either want the createdb command or create it
manually from within psql.  The parameter you're passing is the
directory where the cluster is to be created, so it will appear in the
foo directory relative to wherever you're running that command from.

What you probably want is:

initdb --locale=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-collate=de_DE.UTF-8
--lc-ctype=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-messages=de_DE.UTF-8
--lc-monetary=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-numeric=de_DE.UTF-8
--lc-time=de_DE.UTF-8

createdb -h localhost -p 5432 foo

Regards

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Re: [GENERAL] Problem with initdb: creates database which do not exists

2010-10-18 Thread Adrian Klaver
On Monday 18 October 2010 7:46:21 am Torsten Zühlsdorff wrote:
 Hello,

 i'm using initdb of an PostgreSQL 8.4 installed over the port-system of
 FreeBSD:

 =

   initdb foo --locale=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-collate=de_DE.UTF-8

 --lc-ctype=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-messages=de_DE.UTF-8
 --lc-monetary=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-numeric=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-time=de_DE.UTF-8
 The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user thorny.
 This user must also own the server process.

 The database cluster will be initialized with locale de_DE.UTF-8.
 The default database encoding has accordingly been set to UTF8.
 The default text search configuration will be set to german.

 creating directory foo ... ok
 creating subdirectories ... ok
 selecting default max_connections ... 100
 selecting default shared_buffers ... 32MB
 creating configuration files ... ok
 creating template1 database in foo/base/1 ... ok
 initializing pg_authid ... ok
 initializing dependencies ... ok
 creating system views ... ok
 loading system objects' descriptions ... ok
 creating conversions ... ok
 creating dictionaries ... ok
 setting privileges on built-in objects ... ok
 creating information schema ... ok
 vacuuming database template1 ... ok
 copying template1 to template0 ... ok
 copying template1 to postgres ... ok

 WARNING: enabling trust authentication for local connections
 You can change this by editing pg_hba.conf or using the -A option the
 next time you run initdb.

 Success. You can now start the database server using:

  postgres -D foo
 or
  pg_ctl -D foo -l logfile start

 =

 After that the database is not visible:

 =

   psql -l

 List of databases
  Name| Owner  | Encoding | Collation | Ctype | Access privileges
 ++--+---+---+---
   pgsql  | pgsql  | UTF8 | C | C |
   postgres   | pgsql  | UTF8 | C | C |
   template0  | pgsql  | UTF8 | C | C | =c/pgsql

  : pgsql=CTc/pgsql

   template1  | pgsql  | UTF8 | C | C | =c/pgsql

  : pgsql=CTc/pgsql

 (4 rows)

 =

 So i try again to create it:

 =

   initdb foo --locale=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-collate=de_DE.UTF-8

 --lc-ctype=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-messages=de_DE.UTF-8
 --lc-monetary=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-numeric=de_DE.UTF-8 --lc-time=de_DE.UTF-8
 The files belonging to this database system will be owned by user thorny.
 This user must also own the server process.

 The database cluster will be initialized with locale de_DE.UTF-8.
 The default database encoding has accordingly been set to UTF8.
 The default text search configuration will be set to german.

 initdb: directory foo exists but is not empty
 If you want to create a new database system, either remove or empty
 the directory foo or run initdb
 with an argument other than foo.

 =

 Thats interessting. But i can't drop the database:

 =

   dropdb foo

 dropdb: database removal failed: ERROR:  database foo does not exist

 =

 So: any idea why the database is not visible? And how do get rid of the
 non-existing databases ;)

 Thanks for your time,
 Torsten
 --
 http://www.dddbl.de - ein Datenbank-Layer, der die Arbeit mit 8
 verschiedenen Datenbanksystemen abstrahiert,
 Queries von Applikationen trennt und automatisch die Query-Ergebnisse
 auswerten kann.

My guess is that you have more than one installation of Postgres. The initdb is 
working on one cluster and your psql is pointing at another. You might want to 
do a ps to see what is running.

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Re: [GENERAL] Problem with initdb: creates database which do not exists

2010-10-18 Thread Tom Lane
Adrian Klaver adrian.kla...@gmail.com writes:
 On Monday 18 October 2010 7:46:21 am Torsten Zühlsdorff wrote:
 So: any idea why the database is not visible? And how do get rid of the
 non-existing databases ;)

 My guess is that you have more than one installation of Postgres. The initdb 
 is 
 working on one cluster and your psql is pointing at another.

Yeah.  In particular, since I didn't see any server start or stop
commands in this sequence, it looks like the psql calls are talking to
some pre-existing server process that's using a pre-existing database
directory somewhere else.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [GENERAL] Problem with initdb: creates database which do not exists

2010-10-18 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Tom Lane t...@sss.pgh.pa.us:

 Adrian Klaver adrian.kla...@gmail.com writes:
  On Monday 18 October 2010 7:46:21 am Torsten Z_hlsdorff wrote:
  So: any idea why the database is not visible? And how do get rid of the
  non-existing databases ;)
 
  My guess is that you have more than one installation of Postgres. The 
  initdb is 
  working on one cluster and your psql is pointing at another.
 
 Yeah.  In particular, since I didn't see any server start or stop
 commands in this sequence, it looks like the psql calls are talking to
 some pre-existing server process that's using a pre-existing database
 directory somewhere else.

Unless you tweak settings in /etc/rc.conf, FreeBSD's install of Postgres
will start up talking to the DB in /usr/local/pgsql (if you start it
using FreeBSD's rc system)  The port provides the variable postgresql_data
which can be used to change the rc script's behavior.

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