Re: [GENERAL] Problems with database bloat

2006-06-10 Thread Alex Turner
I suspect that my manualy vacuum every 10 days or so really wasn't nearly enough ;)AlexOn 6/9/06, Jim C. Nasby <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:This tells me that you need to be vacuuming more. Autovac is your
friend.On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:14:01PM -0400, Alex Turner wrote:> Yeah - I just did a reindex, that fixed the indexes at least.>> Alex>> On 6/8/06, Jim C. Nasby <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> >> >On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 06:03:23PM -0400, Alex Turner wrote:> >> I hope I'm reading this query wrong:> >>> >> trend=# select relname, relpages*8192/reltuples from pg_class where
> >> reltuples>0 order by relpages desc limit 10;> >>relname| ?column?> >> ---+--> >> property  | 
19935.4468376195> >> result_entry_pkey | 1611.15654062026> >> result_entry  | 1417.71707157196> >> person| 7107.41684585612> >> property_feature_pkey | 
98.7810833557521> >> property_feature  | 60.2035684051268> >> person_name_i | 3358.93641334398> >> property_price_i  | 1978.89907374882> >> property_mls_listing_number_i | 
1923.61833274788> >> property_spatial  | 1784.73493686332> >> (10 rows)> >>> >> If I have this query right in my head, this means that the average tuple> >in
> >> the property relation is taking up 19k? and the average tuple in the> >> result_entry_pkey index is take 1.5k?!> >>> >> Is there a way I can get the database to coalesce free space?  A vacuum
> >> verbose shows that I have enough entries in the free space map...> >> >A lazy vacuum won't reclaim empty space, only a VACUUM FULL will.> >> >If that drops the size of the relations substantially, you'll probably
> >want to REINDEX everything to reclaim lost space in the indexes as well.> >--> >Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Pervasive Software  http://pervasive.comwork: 512-231-6117> >vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf   cell: 512-569-9461
> >--Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Pervasive Software  http://pervasive.comwork: 512-231-6117
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Re: [GENERAL] Problems with database bloat

2006-06-09 Thread Jim C. Nasby
This tells me that you need to be vacuuming more. Autovac is your
friend.

On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:14:01PM -0400, Alex Turner wrote:
> Yeah - I just did a reindex, that fixed the indexes at least.
> 
> Alex
> 
> On 6/8/06, Jim C. Nasby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 06:03:23PM -0400, Alex Turner wrote:
> >> I hope I'm reading this query wrong:
> >>
> >> trend=# select relname, relpages*8192/reltuples from pg_class where
> >> reltuples>0 order by relpages desc limit 10;
> >>relname| ?column?
> >> ---+--
> >> property  | 19935.4468376195
> >> result_entry_pkey | 1611.15654062026
> >> result_entry  | 1417.71707157196
> >> person| 7107.41684585612
> >> property_feature_pkey | 98.7810833557521
> >> property_feature  | 60.2035684051268
> >> person_name_i | 3358.93641334398
> >> property_price_i  | 1978.89907374882
> >> property_mls_listing_number_i | 1923.61833274788
> >> property_spatial  | 1784.73493686332
> >> (10 rows)
> >>
> >> If I have this query right in my head, this means that the average tuple
> >in
> >> the property relation is taking up 19k? and the average tuple in the
> >> result_entry_pkey index is take 1.5k?!
> >>
> >> Is there a way I can get the database to coalesce free space?  A vacuum
> >> verbose shows that I have enough entries in the free space map...
> >
> >A lazy vacuum won't reclaim empty space, only a VACUUM FULL will.
> >
> >If that drops the size of the relations substantially, you'll probably
> >want to REINDEX everything to reclaim lost space in the indexes as well.
> >--
> >Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Pervasive Software  http://pervasive.comwork: 512-231-6117
> >vcard: http://jim.nasby.net/pervasive.vcf   cell: 512-569-9461
> >

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Re: [GENERAL] Problems with database bloat

2006-06-08 Thread Alex Turner
Yeah - I just did a reindex, that fixed the indexes at least.AlexOn 6/8/06, Jim C. Nasby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 06:03:23PM -0400, Alex Turner wrote:> I hope I'm reading this query wrong:
>> trend=# select relname, relpages*8192/reltuples from pg_class where> reltuples>0 order by relpages desc limit 10;>relname| ?column?> ---+--
> property  | 19935.4468376195> result_entry_pkey | 1611.15654062026> result_entry  | 1417.71707157196> person| 7107.41684585612
> property_feature_pkey | 98.7810833557521> property_feature  | 60.2035684051268> person_name_i | 3358.93641334398> property_price_i  | 1978.89907374882
> property_mls_listing_number_i | 1923.61833274788> property_spatial  | 1784.73493686332> (10 rows)>> If I have this query right in my head, this means that the average tuple in
> the property relation is taking up 19k? and the average tuple in the> result_entry_pkey index is take 1.5k?!>> Is there a way I can get the database to coalesce free space?  A vacuum> verbose shows that I have enough entries in the free space map...
A lazy vacuum won't reclaim empty space, only a VACUUM FULL will.If that drops the size of the relations substantially, you'll probablywant to REINDEX everything to reclaim lost space in the indexes as well.
--Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Pervasive Software  http://pervasive.comwork: 512-231-6117
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Re: [GENERAL] Problems with database bloat

2006-06-08 Thread Jim C. Nasby
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 06:03:23PM -0400, Alex Turner wrote:
> I hope I'm reading this query wrong:
> 
> trend=# select relname, relpages*8192/reltuples from pg_class where
> reltuples>0 order by relpages desc limit 10;
>relname| ?column?
> ---+--
> property  | 19935.4468376195
> result_entry_pkey | 1611.15654062026
> result_entry  | 1417.71707157196
> person| 7107.41684585612
> property_feature_pkey | 98.7810833557521
> property_feature  | 60.2035684051268
> person_name_i | 3358.93641334398
> property_price_i  | 1978.89907374882
> property_mls_listing_number_i | 1923.61833274788
> property_spatial  | 1784.73493686332
> (10 rows)
> 
> If I have this query right in my head, this means that the average tuple in
> the property relation is taking up 19k? and the average tuple in the
> result_entry_pkey index is take 1.5k?!
> 
> Is there a way I can get the database to coalesce free space?  A vacuum
> verbose shows that I have enough entries in the free space map...

A lazy vacuum won't reclaim empty space, only a VACUUM FULL will.

If that drops the size of the relations substantially, you'll probably
want to REINDEX everything to reclaim lost space in the indexes as well.
-- 
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Pervasive Software  http://pervasive.comwork: 512-231-6117
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[GENERAL] Problems with database bloat

2006-06-08 Thread Alex Turner
I hope I'm reading this query wrong:trend=# select relname, relpages*8192/reltuples from pg_class where reltuples>0 order by relpages desc limit 10;    relname    | ?column?---+--
 property  | 19935.4468376195 result_entry_pkey | 1611.15654062026 result_entry  | 1417.71707157196 person    | 7107.41684585612 property_feature_pkey | 
98.7810833557521 property_feature  | 60.2035684051268 person_name_i | 3358.93641334398 property_price_i  | 1978.89907374882 property_mls_listing_number_i | 1923.61833274788
 property_spatial  | 1784.73493686332(10 rows)If I have this query right in my head, this means that the average tuple in the property relation is taking up 19k? and the average tuple in the result_entry_pkey index is take 
1.5k?!Is there a way I can get the database to coalesce free space?  A vacuum verbose shows that I have enough entries in the free space map...Alex.