[GENERAL] Re: Fwd: Stalled post to pgsql-general

2001-02-16 Thread Kapil Tilwani

help
Hi,
It would work fine to have a web interface in case the
application could be developed with that...  In fact,
we had started working on the project with PG and Java
Servlets et al...  However, we ran into problems after
a month of designing and actual implementaiton work
was over only because the browser / HTML is too
static...
a.  Extensive coding is reqd. for datatypes
validations on all forms and reports for filtering,
etc.
b.  Added functionality would result in havoc for
adding features like Grids as in MS-Access like
forms-subforms and browsing thru such records in order

c.  Non-use of client-side processing capacity i.e.,
under-utilisation and over-burdening the server which
would in case of client-server be just handling data
which would make it much more reliable
d.  The client would not shell out a single penny when
I tell him that two servers would be ideal for him... 
One for handling data the other for handling http
requests
e.  Moving away from Windows is impossible fof him... 
He has not heard that there is any other OS other than
Windows
f.  The client is not a jackass...  I cant conn him...
 He knows what all he wants in his software
g.  I am keen on PG/Interbase
h.  I KNOW YOU CAN HELP... SO, KINDLY DO
i.  This MS-Office interface you are talking about... 
That would involve a lot of wizardry/programming...

Thanx
Kapil

--- Mark Cowlishaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 I was asked to develop a reasonably large database
 application for my
 company intranet. My boss comes from a heavily
 windows background and wanted
 it all developed in MS Access etc but we're
 basically a UNIX house and I
 knew that would cause havoc with the software
 developers around here (and
 myself) who much prefer the UNIX way of doing things
 (and oftentimes run
 Linux as their Desktop OS).
 
 What did I do? I developed the application using a
 PostgreSQL backend with a
 web interface (I used Perl for rapid development,
 but would have preferred
 Java Servlets), and then used the ODBC drivers to
 connect Access to allow
 MSOffice automation and custom queries within Access
 so the boss can create
 his custom reports if he likes. Now I have the best
 of all worlds: Reliable
 backend (PostgreSQL), a platform neutral frontend
 (Web Interface) and Office
 automation through ODBC.
 
 Works for me!
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "The Hermit Hacker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Kapil Tilwani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:54 AM
 Subject: Re: Fwd: Stalled post to pgsql-general
 
 
 
  Have you looked at the available ODBC drivers?
 
  On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-1] Kapil Tilwani
 wrote:
 
   help
   Hi,
  
   I am a fresh graduate from India in commerce and
 do
   know a little about programming using VB, Java
 and
   Oracle...  I, along with 5 more friends, have
 received
   a small-time project (small for u guys, major
 for us)
   for developing a small application
  
   We are considering one of the foll.options
   A. Totally Linux
  a. Only option is using Swings and
 Postgres/MySQL
  Though this would technically be the best
 option...
But, in India, it is like only Windows is the
   well-known client-side operating system
  
   B. Norma for Indian
  a. Linux Server and Windows client
  b. Windows Server and Windows client
  
   Here, my problem is a very simple one...  I need
 to
   put my Postgres on a Windows server (this is
   optional... I can convince my project-giver to
 go in
   for a Linux server) ...
   However, I have a problem in that at least my
 clients
   would all be Windows-based... So, how do I
 install the
   clients... Can I get some kind of wizarded- .exe
 file
   for that... and where?
   Also, how do I make the connection between the
 Windows
   Server and the client... How do I specify...
 please
   could u send details rather than a quick
 overview ...
   It would be highly appreciative
   Lastly, is it possible to have a Linux as a
 server and
   the Windows clients interacting with this
 server...
   and pleaase plz tell me how to do
 that...  If
   possible, please be descriptive and help me to
 do
   that...
  
   All I can say is that I will pay back to the
 community
   all the favours and more...  PLEASE HELP... YOU
 CAN
   NOT REALLY MAKE OUT HOW FRUSTRATING THIS IS
 BECOMING
  
   Also, could u just give me yr unofficial
 comments on
   Interbase... Is it good enough?  ...or MySQL for
 that
   matter?
  
   Are there any free downloadable development
 packages
   for Postgres and Java...  Something better than
 Forte
   for Java
  
   Thanx
   Kapil
  
   P.S. : Where am I reqd. to post my queries
 related to
   Postgres, Java , Interbase...
  
  
   --- The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
could you resend the original?  I tried to
 read
through what you tried to
post, and couldn't get past line one before it
 got
all jumbled :(
   
   
On We

[GENERAL] Re: Fwd: Stalled post to pgsql-general

2001-02-15 Thread The Hermit Hacker


Have you looked at the available ODBC drivers?

On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-1] Kapil Tilwani wrote:

 help
 Hi,

 I am a fresh graduate from India in commerce and do
 know a little about programming using VB, Java and
 Oracle...  I, along with 5 more friends, have received
 a small-time project (small for u guys, major for us)
 for developing a small application

 We are considering one of the foll.options
 A. Totally Linux
a. Only option is using Swings and Postgres/MySQL
Though this would technically be the best option...
  But, in India, it is like only Windows is the
 well-known client-side operating system

 B. Norma for Indian
a. Linux Server and Windows client
b. Windows Server and Windows client

 Here, my problem is a very simple one...  I need to
 put my Postgres on a Windows server (this is
 optional... I can convince my project-giver to go in
 for a Linux server) ...
 However, I have a problem in that at least my clients
 would all be Windows-based... So, how do I install the
 clients... Can I get some kind of wizarded- .exe file
 for that... and where?
 Also, how do I make the connection between the Windows
 Server and the client... How do I specify... please
 could u send details rather than a quick overview ...
 It would be highly appreciative
 Lastly, is it possible to have a Linux as a server and
 the Windows clients interacting with this server...
 and pleaase plz tell me how to do that...  If
 possible, please be descriptive and help me to do
 that...

 All I can say is that I will pay back to the community
 all the favours and more...  PLEASE HELP... YOU CAN
 NOT REALLY MAKE OUT HOW FRUSTRATING THIS IS BECOMING

 Also, could u just give me yr unofficial comments on
 Interbase... Is it good enough?  ...or MySQL for that
 matter?

 Are there any free downloadable development packages
 for Postgres and Java...  Something better than Forte
 for Java

 Thanx
 Kapil

 P.S. : Where am I reqd. to post my queries related to
 Postgres, Java , Interbase...


 --- The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  could you resend the original?  I tried to read
  through what you tried to
  post, and couldn't get past line one before it got
  all jumbled :(
 
 
  On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-1] Kapil Tilwani
  wrote:
 
   help
  
   As per the advice of Mr. Bruce M. , I sent my mail
  to
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
   [EMAIL PROTECTED], but every mail is
  bouncing
   back... Please help
  
  
   Note: forwarded message attached.
  
  
   =
   Better Late than Never - Drive Safely...!!
   One Life One Partner - One Result = Happiness +
  Security !!
  
   From Kapil C. Tilwani
  
  
 
 
   Do You Yahoo!?
   Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at
  http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
   or your free @yahoo.ie address at
  http://mail.yahoo.ie
 
  Marc G. Fournier   ICQ#7615664
  IRC Nick: Scrappy
  Systems Administrator @ hub.org
  primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   secondary:
  scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
 


 =
 Better Late than Never - Drive Safely...!!
 One Life One Partner - One Result = Happiness + Security !!

 From Kapil C. Tilwani

 
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
 or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie


Marc G. Fournier   ICQ#7615664   IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org




[GENERAL] Re: Fwd: Stalled post to pgsql-general

2001-02-15 Thread Mark Cowlishaw


I was asked to develop a reasonably large database application for my
company intranet. My boss comes from a heavily windows background and wanted
it all developed in MS Access etc but we're basically a UNIX house and I
knew that would cause havoc with the software developers around here (and
myself) who much prefer the UNIX way of doing things (and oftentimes run
Linux as their Desktop OS).

What did I do? I developed the application using a PostgreSQL backend with a
web interface (I used Perl for rapid development, but would have preferred
Java Servlets), and then used the ODBC drivers to connect Access to allow
MSOffice automation and custom queries within Access so the boss can create
his custom reports if he likes. Now I have the best of all worlds: Reliable
backend (PostgreSQL), a platform neutral frontend (Web Interface) and Office
automation through ODBC.

Works for me!


- Original Message -
From: "The Hermit Hacker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Kapil Tilwani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Stalled post to pgsql-general



 Have you looked at the available ODBC drivers?

 On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-1] Kapil Tilwani wrote:

  help
  Hi,
 
  I am a fresh graduate from India in commerce and do
  know a little about programming using VB, Java and
  Oracle...  I, along with 5 more friends, have received
  a small-time project (small for u guys, major for us)
  for developing a small application
 
  We are considering one of the foll.options
  A. Totally Linux
 a. Only option is using Swings and Postgres/MySQL
 Though this would technically be the best option...
   But, in India, it is like only Windows is the
  well-known client-side operating system
 
  B. Norma for Indian
 a. Linux Server and Windows client
 b. Windows Server and Windows client
 
  Here, my problem is a very simple one...  I need to
  put my Postgres on a Windows server (this is
  optional... I can convince my project-giver to go in
  for a Linux server) ...
  However, I have a problem in that at least my clients
  would all be Windows-based... So, how do I install the
  clients... Can I get some kind of wizarded- .exe file
  for that... and where?
  Also, how do I make the connection between the Windows
  Server and the client... How do I specify... please
  could u send details rather than a quick overview ...
  It would be highly appreciative
  Lastly, is it possible to have a Linux as a server and
  the Windows clients interacting with this server...
  and pleaase plz tell me how to do that...  If
  possible, please be descriptive and help me to do
  that...
 
  All I can say is that I will pay back to the community
  all the favours and more...  PLEASE HELP... YOU CAN
  NOT REALLY MAKE OUT HOW FRUSTRATING THIS IS BECOMING
 
  Also, could u just give me yr unofficial comments on
  Interbase... Is it good enough?  ...or MySQL for that
  matter?
 
  Are there any free downloadable development packages
  for Postgres and Java...  Something better than Forte
  for Java
 
  Thanx
  Kapil
 
  P.S. : Where am I reqd. to post my queries related to
  Postgres, Java , Interbase...
 
 
  --- The Hermit Hacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
   could you resend the original?  I tried to read
   through what you tried to
   post, and couldn't get past line one before it got
   all jumbled :(
  
  
   On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, [iso-8859-1] Kapil Tilwani
   wrote:
  
help
   
As per the advice of Mr. Bruce M. , I sent my mail
   to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but every mail is
   bouncing
back... Please help
   
   
Note: forwarded message attached.
   
   
=
Better Late than Never - Drive Safely...!!
One Life One Partner - One Result = Happiness +
   Security !!
   
From Kapil C. Tilwani
   
   
  
  
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at
   http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
or your free @yahoo.ie address at
   http://mail.yahoo.ie
  
   Marc G. Fournier   ICQ#7615664
   IRC Nick: Scrappy
   Systems Administrator @ hub.org
   primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   secondary:
   scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
  
 
 
  =
  Better Late than Never - Drive Safely...!!
  One Life One Partner - One Result = Happiness + Security !!
 
  From Kapil C. Tilwani
 
  
  Do You Yahoo!?
  Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk
  or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie
 

 Marc G. Fournier   ICQ#7615664   IRC Nick:
Scrappy
 Systems Administrator @ hub.org
 primary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   secondary:
scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org