Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:51:18 -0500, Merlin Moncure wrote: > one second it took to move the mail to my spam folder. Yes, we all know > how annoying and stupid spam is but there is a human element here that > puts things in slightly different light, don't you think? Absolutely! I'd like to know how the human element got my email, and why it decided to collect it in the first place. -h ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/19/07 11:51, Guy Fraser wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:48 -0800, Richard Troy wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: [snip] > I feel that all @en25.com and @enterprisedb.com should be > considered for banning from the PostgreSQL mailing lists without > a better apology than has been given to date: You'll want mercy when *you* have been accused of a major crime by an overzealous prosecutor. http://www.norwichbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070106/NEWS01/701060312/1002/NEWS17 http://www.norwichbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070105/NEWS01/70105039 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/11/spyware_teacher/ http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/10460 http://abcnews.go.com/2020/LegalCenter/story?id=2785054&page=3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFsTbdS9HxQb37XmcRAi9YAJ0ayGEISK9yyNvvKxscANOOkL8+ewCeNUBq vF2kJgNHLgSVKOk5ByDQJvc= =1iGq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On 19 Jan 2007 12:12:34 -0800, Karen Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alan Hodgson wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2007 15:54, Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about > > "Postgresql Support Services"? > > > > yep. You really would think that even the marketing weenies might know > better by now. I do think that the unsolicited email was not an effective marketing technique at all. Yet, I do not consider it on the same level as "SPAM" (even though it may fit that description) because I understand that many of the developers at that company are actively contributing to PostgreSQL. The reality is that postgres _is_ open source which makes it difficult to create a viable business model because most people will just download postgresql for free and get support on the mailing lists. What I think it suggests is that the company is having some financial difficulties. The sad thing is that in order for PostgreSQL to remain competitive, it probably needs paid developers working on it. Oracle and the rest have teams of professionals working on their RDBMS software 8 or more hours per day. It is naive to think that someone coming home after work spending 2 hours a day can compete with a professional team working full time. I think a good business market would be PostgreSQL hosting. Solaris 10 with PostgreSQL on a Zone. Maybe another server with OpenBSD. They could then upsell their support to those hosted sites that have growing traffic. As for mass emailing, I think instead they should create a newsletter they send out to subscribers. It could be filled with useful tips and ideas (at the bottom they could provide their contact information and services provided). This way, people would look forward to reading their material and have positive associations of the company. Just my 2 cents Regards, Karen oracle sucks :-) merlin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
Alan Hodgson wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2007 15:54, Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about > > "Postgresql Support Services"? > > > > yep. You really would think that even the marketing weenies might know > better by now. I do think that the unsolicited email was not an effective marketing technique at all. Yet, I do not consider it on the same level as "SPAM" (even though it may fit that description) because I understand that many of the developers at that company are actively contributing to PostgreSQL. The reality is that postgres _is_ open source which makes it difficult to create a viable business model because most people will just download postgresql for free and get support on the mailing lists. What I think it suggests is that the company is having some financial difficulties. The sad thing is that in order for PostgreSQL to remain competitive, it probably needs paid developers working on it. Oracle and the rest have teams of professionals working on their RDBMS software 8 or more hours per day. It is naive to think that someone coming home after work spending 2 hours a day can compete with a professional team working full time. I think a good business market would be PostgreSQL hosting. Solaris 10 with PostgreSQL on a Zone. Maybe another server with OpenBSD. They could then upsell their support to those hosted sites that have growing traffic. As for mass emailing, I think instead they should create a newsletter they send out to subscribers. It could be filled with useful tips and ideas (at the bottom they could provide their contact information and services provided). This way, people would look forward to reading their material and have positive associations of the company. Just my 2 cents Regards, Karen ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org/
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
> SPAM is a term used for unsolicited email of any kind... sent to a large number... Thus the use of the word "bulk". -- Scott Ribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On 1/19/07, Guy Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I feel that all @en25.com and @enterprisedb.com should be considered for banning from the PostgreSQL mailing lists without a better apology than has been given to date: Thats a bit harsh IMO. Many of the enterprisedb people are active contributors to PostgreSQL and have been (pre-enterprisedb) for years. Stacking this up against a single incident I think 'we did it, it was an accident' is good enough for me. I'm not losing much sleep over the one second it took to move the mail to my spam folder. Yes, we all know how annoying and stupid spam is but there is a human element here that puts things in slightly different light, don't you think? merlin ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007, Guy Fraser wrote: > > Josh, under the law, that's not spam. Individually written emails are > > never spam even if they may be "unsolicited sales material." So, rest > > assured. > > > > Richard > > > You are oh so wrong in so many ways. > > SPAM is a term used for unsolicited email of any kind be it UCE > {unsolicited commercial email}, UBE {unsolicited bulk email} or > anything else that is unsolicited and sent to a large number of > individuals or cross posted to a number of mailing lists and or > news groups. Guy, No, by law, I'm correct, though it appears you've misread my post. There's evidence you've misread what I wrote when you say, "sent to a large number of individuals". When you sit down and author a letter to _someone,_ "an individual", it's not spam. Note I didn't say "a large number of individuals," I said "individually written," meaning, to one person. ...I thought my writing was plain enough, but I guess English is flexible enough to always provide room for misunderstanding... BTW, this is a question of a legal definition of terms, not general use by a community. Whatever the community thinks is irrelevent; there's law in the U.S. regarding SPAM. I know not because I'm a lawyer and read the statutes in question, but because I founded a company and as fearless leader am responsible for knowing the rules; I consulted our corporate council on the matter for definitive working rules in order to set our corporate policy (in particular for Sales people as they're the biggest risk to an organization in this regard). Either way, I'm sure their embarassment on the matter is a substantial penalty for the offending party as this community is their target customer base, so your obvious anger can be at least somewhat satiated. Richard -- Richard Troy, Chief Scientist Science Tools Corporation 510-924-1363 or 202-747-1263 [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://ScienceTools.com/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 17:48 -0800, Richard Troy wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > > > Spam is spam. I don't care what they're selling. Anyone dumb enough to > > > send spam in 2006 should be fired on the spot. > > > > That is a bit extreme. One persons SPAM is another persons interesting > > information. Although I agree that the behavior in this particular > > situation was a bit less than the average IQ score. > > > > If you are going to communicate with potential customers, especially as > > SPAM have the integrity to do it yourself and take the heat yourself. > > Don't use some off brand secondary service and pay them to spam for you. > > > > I send out email all the time to potentials. It is common practice but I > > do it, directly as me. > > Josh, under the law, that's not spam. Individually written emails are > never spam even if they may be "unsolicited sales material." So, rest > assured. > > Richard > You are oh so wrong in so many ways. SPAM is a term used for unsolicited email of any kind be it UCE {unsolicited commercial email}, UBE {unsolicited bulk email} or anything else that is unsolicited and sent to a large number of individuals or cross posted to a number of mailing lists and or news groups. I feel that all @en25.com and @enterprisedb.com should be considered for banning from the PostgreSQL mailing lists without a better apology than has been given to date: "EnterpriseDB recently sent out email advertising new support offerings. Unfortunately, the email was incorrectly sent to some people who should not have received it. We apologize for the error, and are taking steps to avoid such mistakes in the future." Denis Lussier, CTO & Founder The part about : "incorrectly sent to some people who should not have received it" Is far too weak. I am certain that I never expressed any interest in EnterpriseDB on the announce list or any other PostgreSQL list. Posting the message on the list would have been just as effective. I would expect EnterpriseDB to remove me and anyone else who has not expressed interest from their list. I thought that the FAQ indicated that harvesting of emails off the list was not allowed, I will have to review it, when I have time. As an employee of a Network Service Provider, I know that we do not tolerate repeat incidences of intentional Unsolicited email, and especially frown on complaints of harvested mailing lists. I do not want any personal communication from EnterpriseDB in response to this posting or ever again in the future, if they want to respond they can reply to this post on this mailing list. I have verified that their NSP is in Canada and have determined that address harvesting may be illegal if it is not already in Canada. See Item 7 on : http://www.e-com.ic.gc.ca/epic/internet/inecic-ceac.nsf/en/h_gv00337e.html ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 08:02:58PM -0700, Michael Fuhr wrote: > On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 06:14:23PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > http://www.commandprompt.com/ :) We are more cost effective and have > > been doing it for much, much longer ;) > > As somebody with a measure of influence over PostgreSQL work in my > organization, I'll say that unsolicited email to my personal address > has not gone unremarked. I'd like to clarify my remarks: I wasn't referring to Joshua or to Command Prompt, but rather to the unsolicited email I received from That Other Company. I replied to Joshua's message to imply that I'd be recommending that my organization consider talking to Command Prompt. -- Michael Fuhr ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 06:14:23PM -0800, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > http://www.commandprompt.com/ :) We are more cost effective and have > been doing it for much, much longer ;) As somebody with a measure of influence over PostgreSQL work in my organization, I'll say that unsolicited email to my personal address has not gone unremarked. -- Michael Fuhr ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
* Joshua D. Drake ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > Without that, I might have even filed it away in case I needed what they > > were offering (24/7 phone support is useful for those of us in vastly > > different time zones). > > http://www.commandprompt.com/ :) We are more cost effective and have > been doing it for much, much longer ;) And you know, it wouldn't have been *so* bad if they'd just sent it from themselves to -general or something. Sending it directly to addresses pulled from mailing lists is *bad* form and, imv, against proper mailing list etiquette and justification for removal from the lists. Thanks, Stephen signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
> > Without that, I might have even filed it away in case I needed what they > were offering (24/7 phone support is useful for those of us in vastly > different time zones). http://www.commandprompt.com/ :) We are more cost effective and have been doing it for much, much longer ;) Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > Mailing lists that I didn't ask to be on is a different story. > > klint. > > +---+-+ > : Klint Gore: "Non rhyming: > : EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : slang - the: > : Snail : A.B.R.I.: possibilities : > : Mail University of New England : are useless" : > : Armidale NSW 2351 Australia : L.J.J. : > : Fax : +61 2 6772 5376 : : > +---+-+ > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 17:08:53 -0800, "Joshua D. Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alan Hodgson wrote: > > On Thursday 18 January 2007 16:44, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Harsh, aren't we? > >> > >> Rich and Garland weren't peddling pr0n or a pump-and-dump stock > >> scam. The fact that they've lost some (a lot of?) respect from > >> potential customers will be pain enough. > >> > > > > Spam is spam. I don't care what they're selling. Anyone dumb enough to > > send spam in 2006 should be fired on the spot. > > That is a bit extreme. One persons SPAM is another persons interesting > information. Although I agree that the behavior in this particular > situation was a bit less than the average IQ score. > > If you are going to communicate with potential customers, especially as > SPAM have the integrity to do it yourself and take the heat yourself. > Don't use some off brand secondary service and pay them to spam for you. > > I send out email all the time to potentials. It is common practice but I > do it, directly as me. I think that this bit is the spam clincher > Please click here to unsubscribe > [http://now.eloqua.com/] Without that, I might have even filed it away in case I needed what they were offering (24/7 phone support is useful for those of us in vastly different time zones). Mailing lists that I didn't ask to be on is a different story. klint. +---+-+ : Klint Gore: "Non rhyming: : EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : slang - the: : Snail : A.B.R.I.: possibilities : : Mail University of New England : are useless" : : Armidale NSW 2351 Australia : L.J.J. : : Fax : +61 2 6772 5376 : : +---+-+ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org/
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote: > > > > Spam is spam. I don't care what they're selling. Anyone dumb enough to > > send spam in 2006 should be fired on the spot. > > That is a bit extreme. One persons SPAM is another persons interesting > information. Although I agree that the behavior in this particular > situation was a bit less than the average IQ score. > > If you are going to communicate with potential customers, especially as > SPAM have the integrity to do it yourself and take the heat yourself. > Don't use some off brand secondary service and pay them to spam for you. > > I send out email all the time to potentials. It is common practice but I > do it, directly as me. Josh, under the law, that's not spam. Individually written emails are never spam even if they may be "unsolicited sales material." So, rest assured. Richard > > Sincerely, > > Joshua D. Drake > > > > -- Richard Troy, Chief Scientist Science Tools Corporation 510-924-1363 or 202-747-1263 [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://ScienceTools.com/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
In 2007 however, the punishment ought to be ... ?? ;-) Greg Williamson DBA GlobeXplorer LLC, a DigitalGlobe Company Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information and must be protected in accordance with those provisions. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Alan Hodgson Sent: Thu 1/18/2007 4:57 PM To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Cc: Subject:Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB? On Thursday 18 January 2007 16:44, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Harsh, aren't we? > > Rich and Garland weren't peddling pr0n or a pump-and-dump stock > scam. The fact that they've lost some (a lot of?) respect from > potential customers will be pain enough. > Spam is spam. I don't care what they're selling. Anyone dumb enough to send spam in 2006 should be fired on the spot. -- `"Gun-wielding recluse gunned down by local police" isn't the epitaph I want. I am hoping for "Witnesses reported the sound up to two hundred kilometers away" or "Last body part finally located".' --- James Nicoll ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings --- Click link below if it is SPAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] "https://mailscanner.globexplorer.com/dspam/dspam.cgi?signatureID=45b0160f308471804284693&[EMAIL PROTECTED]&retrain=spam&template=history&history_page=1" !DSPAM:45b0160f308471804284693! --- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org/
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
Alan Hodgson wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2007 16:44, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Harsh, aren't we? >> >> Rich and Garland weren't peddling pr0n or a pump-and-dump stock >> scam. The fact that they've lost some (a lot of?) respect from >> potential customers will be pain enough. >> > > Spam is spam. I don't care what they're selling. Anyone dumb enough to > send spam in 2006 should be fired on the spot. That is a bit extreme. One persons SPAM is another persons interesting information. Although I agree that the behavior in this particular situation was a bit less than the average IQ score. If you are going to communicate with potential customers, especially as SPAM have the integrity to do it yourself and take the heat yourself. Don't use some off brand secondary service and pay them to spam for you. I send out email all the time to potentials. It is common practice but I do it, directly as me. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On 1/18/07, Joshua D. Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gregory S. Williamson wrote: > I got one as well ... not a big deal in my mind since it's only happened once (weekly would be offensive), and it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that we'd have use for their services (I try to keep an update list of possible resources for my employers in the event that I get hit by a meteor or a bus or something equally debilitating). It is pretty bad mojo to harvest emails from a community list to generate targets for a spam. Keep in mind they didn't email you. They emailed people on the list. I mean just look at the email... Dear First Name, > > Still, I think there might be an appropriate mailing list for this sort of commercial announcement which would be better than the "retail" approach. There is... it's called pgsql-announce, and they know it. i thought there is a list for that... -- regards, Jaime Casanova "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." Richard Cook ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On 1/18/07, Alan Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thursday 18 January 2007 15:54, Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about > "Postgresql Support Services"? > yep. You really would think that even the marketing weenies might know better by now. Hopefully whoever is responsible is cleaning out their desk this afternoon. please, no!! just be more careful... -- regards, Jaime Casanova "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." Richard Cook ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On Thursday 18 January 2007 16:44, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Harsh, aren't we? > > Rich and Garland weren't peddling pr0n or a pump-and-dump stock > scam. The fact that they've lost some (a lot of?) respect from > potential customers will be pain enough. > Spam is spam. I don't care what they're selling. Anyone dumb enough to send spam in 2006 should be fired on the spot. -- `"Gun-wielding recluse gunned down by local police" isn't the epitaph I want. I am hoping for "Witnesses reported the sound up to two hundred kilometers away" or "Last body part finally located".' --- James Nicoll ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/18/07 18:29, Alan Hodgson wrote: > On Thursday 18 January 2007 15:54, Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about >> "Postgresql Support Services"? >> > > yep. You really would think that even the marketing weenies might know > better by now. > > Hopefully whoever is responsible is cleaning out their desk this afternoon. Harsh, aren't we? Rich and Garland weren't peddling pr0n or a pump-and-dump stock scam. The fact that they've lost some (a lot of?) respect from potential customers will be pain enough. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFsBRnS9HxQb37XmcRAqgNAJ9uGhXk4G77oGnWM4EPUC7cOtppjQCg45/u L9/kuBdEVM015bU7IlkSlwg= =w7/T -END PGP SIGNATURE- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org/
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On Thursday 18 January 2007 15:54, Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about > "Postgresql Support Services"? > yep. You really would think that even the marketing weenies might know better by now. Hopefully whoever is responsible is cleaning out their desk this afternoon. -- "The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedients, and by parts ... the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
Gregory S. Williamson wrote: > I got one as well ... not a big deal in my mind since it's only happened once > (weekly would be offensive), and it's not entirely out of the realm of > possibility that we'd have use for their services (I try to keep an update > list of possible resources for my employers in the event that I get hit by a > meteor or a bus or something equally debilitating). It is pretty bad mojo to harvest emails from a community list to generate targets for a spam. Keep in mind they didn't email you. They emailed people on the list. I mean just look at the email... Dear First Name, > > Still, I think there might be an appropriate mailing list for this sort of > commercial announcement which would be better than the "retail" approach. There is... it's called pgsql-announce, and they know it. Sincerely, Joshua D. Drake > > My $0.02 worth ... > > Greg Williamson > DBA > GlobeXplorer LLC, a DigitalGlobe company > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > and privileged information and must be protected in accordance with those > provisions. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender > by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. > > (my bosses made me say that) > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steve Atkins > Sent: Thu 1/18/2007 3:54 PM > To: pgsql general > Cc: > Subject: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB? > > Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about > "Postgresql Support Services"? > > I got one to an email address most likely harvested from one of the > Postgresql mailing lists. Ingrid Catlin over at EnterpriseDB > confirmed that they sent the mail, but that Rich Romanik provided > them with the list of email addresses "so it isn't spam". > > Cheers, >Steve > > > ---(end of broadcast)--- > TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend > > > --- > Click link below if it is SPAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "https://mailscanner.globexplorer.com/dspam/dspam.cgi?signatureID=45b00777302212117817174&[EMAIL > PROTECTED]&retrain=spam&template=history&history_page=1" > !DSPAM:45b00777302212117817174! > --- > > > > > > > ---(end of broadcast)--- > TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? > >http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq > -- === The PostgreSQL Company: Command Prompt, Inc. === Sales/Support: +1.503.667.4564 || 24x7/Emergency: +1.800.492.2240 Providing the most comprehensive PostgreSQL solutions since 1997 http://www.commandprompt.com/ Donate to the PostgreSQL Project: http://www.postgresql.org/about/donate PostgreSQL Replication: http://www.commandprompt.com/products/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
I got one as well ... not a big deal in my mind since it's only happened once (weekly would be offensive), and it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility that we'd have use for their services (I try to keep an update list of possible resources for my employers in the event that I get hit by a meteor or a bus or something equally debilitating). Still, I think there might be an appropriate mailing list for this sort of commercial announcement which would be better than the "retail" approach. My $0.02 worth ... Greg Williamson DBA GlobeXplorer LLC, a DigitalGlobe company Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information and must be protected in accordance with those provisions. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. (my bosses made me say that) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steve Atkins Sent: Thu 1/18/2007 3:54 PM To: pgsql general Cc: Subject: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB? Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about "Postgresql Support Services"? I got one to an email address most likely harvested from one of the Postgresql mailing lists. Ingrid Catlin over at EnterpriseDB confirmed that they sent the mail, but that Rich Romanik provided them with the list of email addresses "so it isn't spam". Cheers, Steve ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend --- Click link below if it is SPAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] "https://mailscanner.globexplorer.com/dspam/dspam.cgi?signatureID=45b00777302212117817174&[EMAIL PROTECTED]&retrain=spam&template=history&history_page=1" !DSPAM:45b00777302212117817174! --- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
"Jaime Casanova" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 1/18/07, Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about >> "Postgresql Support Services"? >> > > yes... Same here... Already reported their spam to spamcop... It is nice that I got 3 messages from them, one for each email of mine, so they got a bit more of spam status at the bayesian filters I manage and also were reported 3 times to some anti-spam services. -- Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
2007/1/18, Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about "Postgresql Support Services"? I got one to an email address most likely harvested from one of the Postgresql mailing lists. Ingrid Catlin over at EnterpriseDB confirmed that they sent the mail, but that Rich Romanik provided them with the list of email addresses "so it isn't spam". I received that. I think it does not matter who provided the list. The point is I didn't ask for emails from them. I receive two or three hundred spams each day, so it does not make a difference. It is just that it is bad behavior from postgresql community people. A shame. Regards, -- Clodoaldo Pinto Neto ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org/
Re: [GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
On 1/18/07, Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about "Postgresql Support Services"? yes... -- regards, Jaime Casanova "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." Richard Cook ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org/
[GENERAL] Spam from EnterpriseDB?
Anyone else get spam from EnterpriseDB today, talking about "Postgresql Support Services"? I got one to an email address most likely harvested from one of the Postgresql mailing lists. Ingrid Catlin over at EnterpriseDB confirmed that they sent the mail, but that Rich Romanik provided them with the list of email addresses "so it isn't spam". Cheers, Steve ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend