[GENERAL] Text Search vs MYSQL vs Lucene

2004-09-09 Thread Vic Cekvenich
What would be performance of pgSQL text search vs MySQL vs Lucene (flat 
file) for a 2 terabyte db?
thanks for any comments.
.V
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Re: [GENERAL] Text Search vs MYSQL vs Lucene

2004-09-09 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Thursday 09 Sep 2004 6:26 pm, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
 What would be performance of pgSQL text search vs MySQL vs Lucene (flat
 file) for a 2 terabyte db?

Well, it depends upon lot of factors. There are few questions to be asked 
here..
- What is your hardware and OS configuration?
- What type of data you are dealing with? Mostly static or frequently updated?
- What type of query you are doing. Aggregates or table scan or selective 
retreival etc.

Unfortunately there is no one good answer. If you could provide details, it 
would help a lot..

 Shridhar

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Re: [GENERAL] Text Search vs MYSQL vs Lucene

2004-09-09 Thread Steve Atkins
On Thu, Sep 09, 2004 at 07:56:20AM -0500, Vic Cekvenich wrote:

 What would be performance of pgSQL text search vs MySQL vs Lucene (flat 
 file) for a 2 terabyte db?
 thanks for any comments.

My experience with tsearch2 has been that indexing even moderately
large chunks of data is too slow to be feasible. Moderately large
meaning tens of megabytes.

Your milage might well vary, but I wouldn't rely on postgresql full
text search of that much data being functional, let alone fast enough
to be useful. Test before making any decisions.

If it's a static or moderately static text corpus you're probably
better using a traditional FTS system anyway (tsearch2 has two
advantages - tight integration with pgsql and good support for
incremental indexing).

Two terabytes is a lot of data. I'd suggest you do some research on
FTS algorithms rather than just picking one of the off-the-shelf FTS
systems without understanding what they actually do. Managing
Gigabytes ISBN 1-55860-570-3 covers some approaches.

Cheers,
  Steve

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Re: [GENERAL] Text Search vs MYSQL vs Lucene

2004-09-09 Thread Vic Cekvenich
It be at least dual opteron 64 w 4 gigs of ram runing fedora with a huge 
raid striped drives as single volume.
A similar system and types of querries would be this:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com

So I guess a table scan.
.V
Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
On Thursday 09 Sep 2004 6:26 pm, Vic Cekvenich wrote:
 

What would be performance of pgSQL text search vs MySQL vs Lucene (flat
file) for a 2 terabyte db?
   

Well, it depends upon lot of factors. There are few questions to be asked 
here..
- What is your hardware and OS configuration?
- What type of data you are dealing with? Mostly static or frequently updated?
- What type of query you are doing. Aggregates or table scan or selective 
retreival etc.

Unfortunately there is no one good answer. If you could provide details, it 
would help a lot..

Shridhar
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Re: [GENERAL] Text Search vs MYSQL vs Lucene

2004-09-09 Thread David Garamond
Steve Atkins wrote:
What would be performance of pgSQL text search vs MySQL vs Lucene (flat 
file) for a 2 terabyte db?
thanks for any comments.
My experience with tsearch2 has been that indexing even moderately
large chunks of data is too slow to be feasible. Moderately large
meaning tens of megabytes.
My experience with MySQL's full text search as well as the various 
MySQL-based text indexing programs (forgot the names, it's been a while) 
for some 10-20GB of mail archives has been pretty disappointing too. My 
biggest gripe is with the indexing speed. It literally takes days to 
index less than a million documents.

I ended up using Swish++. Microsoft's CHM compiler also has pretty 
amazing indexing speed (though it crashes quite often when encountering 
bad HTML).

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