Re: [GENERAL] cant connect to the database, even after doing start

2006-07-13 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 01:20, surabhi.ahuja wrote:
> Hi all,
> i have a script to stop and start postmaster
>  
> However i have noticed this many a time sdnow. I stop postmaster using
> that script
> and then start using a script.
>  
> However if i try to do psql , it gives me an error saying that
> the postmaster is not up.
>  
> Why is it that the postmaster went down on its own, even though i had
> done a srart after stop.

How are you stopping the database?  Let me guess that it's "pg_ctl -m
immediate stop".

pg_ctl --help tells us:

Shutdown modes are:
  smart   quit after all clients have disconnected
  fastquit directly, with proper shutdown
  immediate   quit without complete shutdown; will lead to recovery on
restart

Basically, -m immediate does a kill -9 on all the postgresql processes. 
It's an inch away from pulling the plug, except that lying hardware
still gets to flush its caches.

So, if you're stopping pgsql that way, then when it starts up, it does
so in recovery mode, and it can't allow connections until recovery is
finished.

If you're stopping it some other way though, then things might be going
wrong in some other way.

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Re: [GENERAL] cant connect to the database, even after doing start

2006-07-14 Thread surabhi.ahuja
Title: Re: [GENERAL] cant connect to the database, even after doing start






this is what is 
happening
 
stop(){    echo 
"Stopping ${NAME} service: "    if [ 
"`uname`" = "Linux" ]; 
then   /bin/sh -c 
"$PGCTL stop -D $PGDATA -s -m fast" > /dev/null 
2>&1    
fi    
ret=$?    if [ $ret -eq 0 
]    
then    
echo_success    
else    
echo_failure    
if [ "`uname`" = "Linux" ]; 
then   
/bin/sh -c "$PGCTL stop -D $PGDATA -s -m immediate" > /dev/null 
2>&1    
fi    
fi    echo}
u mean to say that  /bin/sh -c "$PGCTL stop -D $PGDATA -s -m 
immediate" > /dev/null 2>&1is causing problem
 
what shd be done, shd it be removed?


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behalf of Scott MarloweSent: Thu 7/13/2006 9:27 PMTo: 
surabhi.ahujaCc: pgsql generalSubject: Re: [GENERAL] cant 
connect to the database, even after doing start

***Your mail has been scanned by 
InterScan VirusWall.***-***On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 
01:20, surabhi.ahuja wrote:> Hi all,> i have a script to stop and 
start postmaster> > However i have noticed this many a time 
sdnow. I stop postmaster using> that script> and then start using 
a script.> > However if i try to do psql , it 
gives me an error saying that> the postmaster is not 
up.> > Why is it that the postmaster went down on its own, 
even though i had> done a srart after stop.How are you stopping 
the database?  Let me guess that it's "pg_ctl -mimmediate 
stop".pg_ctl --help tells us:Shutdown modes are:  
smart   quit after all clients have 
disconnected  fast    quit 
directly, with proper shutdown  immediate   quit without 
complete shutdown; will lead to recovery onrestartBasically, -m 
immediate does a kill -9 on all the postgresql processes.It's an inch away 
from pulling the plug, except that lying hardwarestill gets to flush its 
caches.So, if you're stopping pgsql that way, then when it starts up, it 
doesso in recovery mode, and it can't allow connections until recovery 
isfinished.If you're stopping it some other way though, then things 
might be goingwrong in some other 
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Re: [GENERAL] cant connect to the database, even after doing start

2006-07-14 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 02:48, surabhi.ahuja wrote:
> this is what is happening
>  
> stop(){
> echo "Stopping ${NAME} service: "
> if [ "`uname`" = "Linux" ]; then
>/bin/sh -c "$PGCTL stop -D $PGDATA -s -m fast" > /dev/null
> 2>&1
> fi
> ret=$?
> if [ $ret -eq 0 ]
> then
> echo_success
> else
> echo_failure
> if [ "`uname`" = "Linux" ]; then
>/bin/sh -c "$PGCTL stop -D $PGDATA -s -m immediate"
> > /dev/null 2>&1
> fi
> fi
> echo
> }
> 
> u mean to say that  /bin/sh -c "$PGCTL stop -D $PGDATA -s -m
> immediate" > /dev/null 2>&1
> is causing problem
>  
> what shd be done, shd it be removed?

It's not how I'd do it, certainly.  Which branch gets run most the
time?  Have you tested to make sure that the -m fast really runs and
gets a chance to work?  What script is this from?  Is it a stock one
that came with your distribution, or home grown?


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Re: [GENERAL] cant connect to the database, even after doing start

2006-07-17 Thread surabhi.ahuja
Title: RE: [GENERAL] cant connect to the database, even after doing start






this script is taken from the 
distribution also
 
but i think the second check, to do stop -m 
immidiate is home grown.
 
thanks,
regards
Surabhi


From: Scott Marlowe 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Fri 7/14/2006 9:44 
PMTo: surabhi.ahujaCc: pgsql generalSubject: 
RE: [GENERAL] cant connect to the database, even after doing 
start

***Your mail has been scanned by 
InterScan VirusWall.***-***On Fri, 2006-07-14 at 
02:48, surabhi.ahuja wrote:> this is what is 
happening> > 
stop(){> echo "Stopping 
${NAME} service: "> if [ 
"`uname`" = "Linux" ]; 
then>    
/bin/sh -c "$PGCTL stop -D $PGDATA -s -m fast" > /dev/null> 
2>&1> 
fi> 
ret=$?> if [ $ret -eq 0 
]> 
then> 
echo_success> 
else> 
echo_failure> 
if [ "`uname`" = "Linux" ]; 
then>    
/bin/sh -c "$PGCTL stop -D $PGDATA -s -m immediate"> > /dev/null 
2>&1> 
fi> 
fi> echo> 
}>> u mean to say that  /bin/sh -c "$PGCTL stop -D $PGDATA -s 
-m> immediate" > /dev/null 2>&1> is causing 
problem> > what shd be done, shd it be removed?It's 
not how I'd do it, certainly.  Which branch gets run most 
thetime?  Have you tested to make sure that the -m fast really runs 
andgets a chance to work?  What script is this from?  Is it a 
stock onethat came with your distribution, or home 
grown?




[GENERAL] cant connect to the database, even after doing start of postmaster using a script

2006-07-12 Thread surabhi.ahuja
Hi all,
i have a script to stop and start 
postmaster
 
However i have noticed this many a time sdnow. I 
stop postmaster using that script
and then start using a script.
 
However if i try to do psql , it 
gives me an error saying that the postmaster is not up.
 
Why is it that the postmaster went down on its own, 
even though i had done a srart after stop.
 
thanks,
regards
Surabhi