Re: [GENERAL] database encoding WIN -- Western or Cyrillic?

2005-02-16 Thread Preston Landers

Peter Eisentraut wrote:

Am Samstag, 12. Februar 2005 23:32 schrieb Preston Landers:
 If the postgresql encoding WIN is intended to be Cyrillic 1251,
then
 it should be labeled as such in the docs to avoid confusion.

Well, isn't it?  You pointed to the place in the documentation
yourself.

Pardon me, but did you read the rest of my original email?

The WIN encoding is labeled Windows CP1251.  It doesn't say
anything about Cyrillic or Russian, although WIN1256 is labeled
Windows CP1256 (Arabic). 

Assuming that it is indeed supposed to be Cyrillic, that leaves the
question of how to create a Postgresql database using Windows CP 1252
a.k.a. Western or ANSI. 

I remain mystified why the WIN encoding would default to a fairly
obscure Cyrillic encoding considering most Russian users that I know
are using either KOI8 or Unicode.  It should at least be labeled
Cyrllic to avoid confusion.

I've seen a number of other websites that mistakenly referred to CP1251
 Cyrillic when they really mean CP1252 Western.  That's why I assumed
this mistake was made here, especially since the word Cyrillic isn't
mentioned on the PG doc page, and there is no indication of how to use
CP1252.



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Re: [GENERAL] database encoding WIN -- Western or Cyrillic?

2005-02-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Dienstag, 15. Februar 2005 00:09 schrieb Preston Landers:
 Assuming that it is indeed supposed to be Cyrillic, that leaves the
 question of how to create a Postgresql database using Windows CP 1252
 a.k.a. Western or ANSI.

You don't.  That encoding is not supported (mostly because no one has bothered 
to implement it until now).

 I remain mystified why the WIN encoding would default to a fairly
 obscure Cyrillic encoding considering most Russian users that I know
 are using either KOI8 or Unicode.

Legacy.

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Re: [GENERAL] database encoding WIN -- Western or Cyrillic?

2005-02-15 Thread Serguei A. Mokhov
 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 15:47:14 +0100
 From: Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  I remain mystified why the WIN encoding would default to a fairly
  obscure Cyrillic encoding considering most Russian users that I know
  are using either KOI8 or Unicode.

 Legacy.

I'd not call it legacy _yet_ as it's as frequently used as about KOI8-R
for WIN being the default on Windows for many apps. And since now the
Win32 port is out, it's gonna be even more used. KOI8 was primarily used
on Unixen. Unicode does not kick in yet much for Windows-minded people.

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Re: [GENERAL] database encoding WIN -- Western or Cyrillic?

2005-02-14 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Am Samstag, 12. Februar 2005 23:32 schrieb Preston Landers:
 If the postgresql encoding WIN is intended to be Cyrillic 1251, then
 it should be labeled as such in the docs to avoid confusion.

Well, isn't it?  You pointed to the place in the documentation yourself.

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