Re: [GENERAL] permission denied for schema topology

2014-09-12 Thread Iain Mott
Thanks Tom and everyone that replied. Since my last email my service
provider managed to solve the problem on my main database. I looked at
the schemas listed in phpPgAdmin on this database before it was fixed
and there were two main schemas listed, public and topology, both
owned by postgres. Now when I look, topology is no longer there. 
The problem was fixed on that database however not on others and when I
create a new datbase via cpanel (the only way the system allows) - the
problem reoccurs and I can't do a dump of the new db.

Thanks again for your input - I think it will help me communicate with
them to resolve the problem now fully.

Cheers,

Iain



Em Qui, 2014-09-11 às 10:05 -0400, Tom Lane escreveu:
 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com writes:
  Here's what happens (the important error messages are in English):
 
  [~]# pg_dump mydatabase  dump.sql
  pg_dump: comando SQL falhou
  pg_dump: Mensagem de erro do servidor: ERROR:  permission denied for schema 
  topology
  pg_dump: O comando foi: LOCK TABLE topology.topology IN ACCESS SHARE MODE
 
  I am able to perform dumps of the databases via phpPdAdmin in the
  cpanel of the server, but this is going very inconvenient - hoping to
  use pg_dump
 
 If it works through phpPgAdmin, then phpPgAdmin must be using some other
 (more privileged) user ID than what pg_dump is using by default.  A simple
 workaround therefore ought to be to use pg_dump's -U switch to use that
 other user ID.
 
 From the rest of the thread I gather that you ought to complain to your
 service provider that they installed postgis when you didn't ask for it.
 But selecting the right user ID to dump as is important anyway; it
 generally doesn't work to use an underprivileged ID for pg_dump.
 
   regards, tom lane
 
 




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Re: [GENERAL] permission denied for schema topology

2014-09-12 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 09/12/2014 02:27 AM, Iain Mott wrote:

Thanks Tom and everyone that replied. Since my last email my service
provider managed to solve the problem on my main database. I looked at
the schemas listed in phpPgAdmin on this database before it was fixed
and there were two main schemas listed, public and topology, both
owned by postgres. Now when I look, topology is no longer there.
The problem was fixed on that database however not on others and when I
create a new datbase via cpanel (the only way the system allows) - the
problem reoccurs and I can't do a dump of the new db.


Two things:

1) Looks like the template database they are using with CREATE DATABASE 
has the topology schema already in it, which is why it is showing up again.


2) What user are you running the pg_dump as?



Thanks again for your input - I think it will help me communicate with
them to resolve the problem now fully.

Cheers,

Iain





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[GENERAL] permission denied for schema topology

2014-09-11 Thread Iain Mott
Hello, 

The server for my websites was recently changed and upgraded. I have ssh
access to the server and since the upgrade I am no longer able to use
pg_dump to perform scripted backups. I've written to the site's
support services, but until now, they've not been able to help (they've
responded saying they will likely need to refer the case on to a
developer - I don't  have any guarantees that it will be resolved).

I've googled for this - but didn't come up with any relevant solutions.
Can someone on this list please make suggestions that I can pass on to
the technical support?

Here's what happens (the important error messages are in English):


[~]# pg_dump mydatabase  dump.sql
Senha:
pg_dump: comando SQL falhou
pg_dump: Mensagem de erro do servidor: ERROR:  permission denied for schema 
topology
pg_dump: O comando foi: LOCK TABLE topology.topology IN ACCESS SHARE MODE


---

I am able to perform dumps of the databases via phpPdAdmin in the
cpanel of the server, but this is going very inconvenient - hoping to
use pg_dump

Thanks,



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Re: [GENERAL] permission denied for schema topology

2014-09-11 Thread Rémi Cura
Hey,
if you are using postgis and postgis_topology,
there are specific backup/restore process.
Cheers,
Rémi-C

2014-09-11 12:49 GMT+02:00 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com:

 Hello,

 The server for my websites was recently changed and upgraded. I have ssh
 access to the server and since the upgrade I am no longer able to use
 pg_dump to perform scripted backups. I've written to the site's
 support services, but until now, they've not been able to help (they've
 responded saying they will likely need to refer the case on to a
 developer - I don't  have any guarantees that it will be resolved).

 I've googled for this - but didn't come up with any relevant solutions.
 Can someone on this list please make suggestions that I can pass on to
 the technical support?

 Here's what happens (the important error messages are in English):


 [~]# pg_dump mydatabase  dump.sql
 Senha:
 pg_dump: comando SQL falhou
 pg_dump: Mensagem de erro do servidor: ERROR:  permission denied for
 schema topology
 pg_dump: O comando foi: LOCK TABLE topology.topology IN ACCESS SHARE MODE


 ---

 I am able to perform dumps of the databases via phpPdAdmin in the
 cpanel of the server, but this is going very inconvenient - hoping to
 use pg_dump

 Thanks,



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Re: [GENERAL] permission denied for schema topology

2014-09-11 Thread Iain Mott
Thanks Rémi-C for the quick reply. By coincidence my site does involve
mapping, however I wasn't aware that the server might be using postgis
and postgis_topology. In psql when I type \d i get the following:

public  | comentarios   | tabela | myusername
 public  | featuredata   | tabela | myusername
 public  | geography_columns | visão  | myusername
 public  | geometry_columns  | visão  | myusername
 public  | raster_columns| visão  | myusername
 public  | raster_overviews  | visão  | myusername
 public  | rss   | tabela | myusername
 public  | spatial_ref_sys   | tabela | myusername

geography_columns, geometry_columns, raster_columns, raster_overviews
and spatial_ref_sys are all recent changes to my database (I didn't
create them and I wasn't aware of their existence until the switch to
the new server). Do these and the errors I'm receiving indicate the use
of postgis and postgis_topology by the server?

Just googled for doing a dump of a postgis database and encountered this
command:

pg_dump --no-acl --no-owner $DATABASE  dump.sql

I tried it, but it results in the same error messages

Cheers,









 Em Qui, 2014-09-11 às 12:53 +0200, Rémi Cura escreveu:
 Hey,
 
 if you are using postgis and postgis_topology,
 there are specific backup/restore process.
 Cheers,
 Rémi-C
 
 
 2014-09-11 12:49 GMT+02:00 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com:
 Hello,
 
 The server for my websites was recently changed and upgraded.
 I have ssh
 access to the server and since the upgrade I am no longer able
 to use
 pg_dump to perform scripted backups. I've written to the
 site's
 support services, but until now, they've not been able to help
 (they've
 responded saying they will likely need to refer the case on to
 a
 developer - I don't  have any guarantees that it will be
 resolved).
 
 I've googled for this - but didn't come up with any relevant
 solutions.
 Can someone on this list please make suggestions that I can
 pass on to
 the technical support?
 
 Here's what happens (the important error messages are in
 English):
 
 
 [~]# pg_dump mydatabase  dump.sql
 Senha:
 pg_dump: comando SQL falhou
 pg_dump: Mensagem de erro do servidor: ERROR:  permission
 denied for schema topology
 pg_dump: O comando foi: LOCK TABLE topology.topology IN ACCESS
 SHARE MODE
 
 
 ---
 
 I am able to perform dumps of the databases via phpPdAdmin in
 the
 cpanel of the server, but this is going very inconvenient -
 hoping to
 use pg_dump
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 
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Re: [GENERAL] permission denied for schema topology

2014-09-11 Thread Rémi Cura
Yep,
this means you are using postgis.
I don't know if you use postgis topology.
If you have a schema topology containing a topology table, then you also
have postgis_topology installed.

You can check this with this query : SELECT postgis_full_version();

Maybe the extensions have been created with another user id than your's,
hence the trouble.
Another trouble could come from the fact that postgis and postgis_topology
may have been installed without using postgres CREAtE EXTENSION (old
version of postgis).

Cheers,
Rémi-C

2014-09-11 13:12 GMT+02:00 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com:

 Thanks Rémi-C for the quick reply. By coincidence my site does involve
 mapping, however I wasn't aware that the server might be using postgis
 and postgis_topology. In psql when I type \d i get the following:

 public  | comentarios   | tabela | myusername
  public  | featuredata   | tabela | myusername
  public  | geography_columns | visão  | myusername
  public  | geometry_columns  | visão  | myusername
  public  | raster_columns| visão  | myusername
  public  | raster_overviews  | visão  | myusername
  public  | rss   | tabela | myusername
  public  | spatial_ref_sys   | tabela | myusername

 geography_columns, geometry_columns, raster_columns, raster_overviews
 and spatial_ref_sys are all recent changes to my database (I didn't
 create them and I wasn't aware of their existence until the switch to
 the new server). Do these and the errors I'm receiving indicate the use
 of postgis and postgis_topology by the server?

 Just googled for doing a dump of a postgis database and encountered this
 command:

 pg_dump --no-acl --no-owner $DATABASE  dump.sql

 I tried it, but it results in the same error messages

 Cheers,









  Em Qui, 2014-09-11 às 12:53 +0200, Rémi Cura escreveu:
  Hey,
 
  if you are using postgis and postgis_topology,
  there are specific backup/restore process.
  Cheers,
  Rémi-C
 
 
  2014-09-11 12:49 GMT+02:00 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com:
  Hello,
 
  The server for my websites was recently changed and upgraded.
  I have ssh
  access to the server and since the upgrade I am no longer able
  to use
  pg_dump to perform scripted backups. I've written to the
  site's
  support services, but until now, they've not been able to help
  (they've
  responded saying they will likely need to refer the case on to
  a
  developer - I don't  have any guarantees that it will be
  resolved).
 
  I've googled for this - but didn't come up with any relevant
  solutions.
  Can someone on this list please make suggestions that I can
  pass on to
  the technical support?
 
  Here's what happens (the important error messages are in
  English):
 
 
  [~]# pg_dump mydatabase  dump.sql
  Senha:
  pg_dump: comando SQL falhou
  pg_dump: Mensagem de erro do servidor: ERROR:  permission
  denied for schema topology
  pg_dump: O comando foi: LOCK TABLE topology.topology IN ACCESS
  SHARE MODE
 
 
  ---
 
  I am able to perform dumps of the databases via phpPdAdmin in
  the
  cpanel of the server, but this is going very inconvenient -
  hoping to
  use pg_dump
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 
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Re: [GENERAL] permission denied for schema topology

2014-09-11 Thread Iain Mott
Thanks a lot. Here is the response to 


= SELECT postgis_full_version();

postgi
s_full_version  
 


-
 POSTGIS=2.0.1 r9979 GEOS=3.3.5-CAPI-1.7.5 PROJ=Rel. 4.8.0, 6 March
2012 G
DAL=GDAL 1.9.1, released 2012/05/15 GDAL_DATA not found LIBXML=2.7.6
TOPOLOG
Y RASTER
(1 registro)







Em Qui, 2014-09-11 às 13:21 +0200, Rémi Cura escreveu:
 Yep,
 
 this means you are using postgis.
 
 I don't know if you use postgis topology.
 
 If you have a schema topology containing a topology table, then you
 also have postgis_topology installed.
 
 
 You can check this with this query : SELECT postgis_full_version();
 
 
 
 Maybe the extensions have been created with another user id than
 your's, hence the trouble.
 
 Another trouble could come from the fact that postgis and
 postgis_topology  may have been installed without using postgres
 CREAtE EXTENSION (old version of postgis).
 
 
 
 Cheers,
 Rémi-C
 
 
 2014-09-11 13:12 GMT+02:00 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com:
 Thanks Rémi-C for the quick reply. By coincidence my site does
 involve
 mapping, however I wasn't aware that the server might be using
 postgis
 and postgis_topology. In psql when I type \d i get the
 following:
 
 public  | comentarios   | tabela | myusername
  public  | featuredata   | tabela | myusername
  public  | geography_columns | visão  | myusername
  public  | geometry_columns  | visão  | myusername
  public  | raster_columns| visão  | myusername
  public  | raster_overviews  | visão  | myusername
  public  | rss   | tabela | myusername
  public  | spatial_ref_sys   | tabela | myusername
 
 geography_columns, geometry_columns, raster_columns,
 raster_overviews
 and spatial_ref_sys are all recent changes to my database (I
 didn't
 create them and I wasn't aware of their existence until the
 switch to
 the new server). Do these and the errors I'm receiving
 indicate the use
 of postgis and postgis_topology by the server?
 
 Just googled for doing a dump of a postgis database and
 encountered this
 command:
 
 pg_dump --no-acl --no-owner $DATABASE  dump.sql
 
 I tried it, but it results in the same error messages
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Em Qui, 2014-09-11 às 12:53 +0200, Rémi Cura escreveu:
  Hey,
 
  if you are using postgis and postgis_topology,
  there are specific backup/restore process.
  Cheers,
  Rémi-C
 
 
  2014-09-11 12:49 GMT+02:00 Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com:
  Hello,
 
  The server for my websites was recently changed and
 upgraded.
  I have ssh
  access to the server and since the upgrade I am no
 longer able
  to use
  pg_dump to perform scripted backups. I've written
 to the
  site's
  support services, but until now, they've not been
 able to help
  (they've
  responded saying they will likely need to refer the
 case on to
  a
  developer - I don't  have any guarantees that it
 will be
  resolved).
 
  I've googled for this - but didn't come up with any
 relevant
  solutions.
  Can someone on this list please make suggestions
 that I can
  pass on to
  the technical support?
 
  Here's what happens (the important error messages
 are in
  English):
 
 
  [~]# pg_dump mydatabase  dump.sql
  Senha:
  pg_dump: comando SQL falhou
  pg_dump: Mensagem de erro do servidor: ERROR:
 permission
  denied for schema topology
  pg_dump: O comando foi: LOCK TABLE topology.topology
 IN ACCESS
  SHARE MODE
 
 
  ---
 
  I am able to perform dumps of the databases via
 phpPdAdmin in
  the
  cpanel of the server, but this is going very
 inconvenient -
  hoping to
  use pg_dump
 
  Thanks,
 
 
 
  

Re: [GENERAL] permission denied for schema topology

2014-09-11 Thread Adrian Klaver

On 09/11/2014 04:37 AM, Iain Mott wrote:

Thanks a lot. Here is the response to


= SELECT postgis_full_version();

postgi


So what does pgAdmin show for ownership of the schemas?


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Re: [GENERAL] permission denied for schema topology

2014-09-11 Thread Tom Lane
Iain Mott m...@reverberant.com writes:
 Here's what happens (the important error messages are in English):

 [~]# pg_dump mydatabase  dump.sql
 pg_dump: comando SQL falhou
 pg_dump: Mensagem de erro do servidor: ERROR:  permission denied for schema 
 topology
 pg_dump: O comando foi: LOCK TABLE topology.topology IN ACCESS SHARE MODE

 I am able to perform dumps of the databases via phpPdAdmin in the
 cpanel of the server, but this is going very inconvenient - hoping to
 use pg_dump

If it works through phpPgAdmin, then phpPgAdmin must be using some other
(more privileged) user ID than what pg_dump is using by default.  A simple
workaround therefore ought to be to use pg_dump's -U switch to use that
other user ID.

From the rest of the thread I gather that you ought to complain to your
service provider that they installed postgis when you didn't ask for it.
But selecting the right user ID to dump as is important anyway; it
generally doesn't work to use an underprivileged ID for pg_dump.

regards, tom lane


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