Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
Tom Lane wrote: shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com writes: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, some of those versions are old...its government, and I unfortunately don't have control over the version. Er ... Red Hat *what*? I don't think they ever used such a version number. If they did it was a very long time ago (for calibration, they were just about to release RHL 7.3 when I joined the company, in 2001). You could probably scare the powers-that-be into letting you update the thing just on the grounds of it still being full of Y2K bugs. Well, the first Red Hat Linux I'm used was 4.1 (I still remember the code name, Vanderbilt). And it was '97 I think. So if you're *really* thinking of RHL 3 something, wikipedia says about early RH revision history: # 1.0 (Mother's Day), November 3, 1994 (Linux 1.2.8) # 1.1 (Mother's Day+0.1), August 1, 1995 (Linux 1.2.11) # 2.0, September 20, 1995 (Linux 1.2.13-2) # 2.1, November 23, 1995 (Linux 1.2.13) # 3.0.3 (Picasso), May 1, 1996 - first release supporting DEC Alpha # 4.0 (Colgate), October 3, 1996 (Linux 2.0.18) - first release supporting SPARC # 4.1 (Vanderbilt), February 3, 1997 (Linux 2.0.27) which reminds me, I've used Colgate a bit too. Back in those years I've used also Postres95 (but on Slackware I suspect). Anyway, if I'm not mistaken, the birth of PostgreSQL proper (6.0 I think) was at that time, '96. The OP must refer to RHEL 3 something, it can't be RHL 3. He'd have a tyrannosaur in his backyard and he's crying for help because he's got a broken leg. We go send pictures!. Quite seriously I'd really like to see a picture of a running RHL 3 still in production. Maybe even at RH won't mind one. Too bad uptime wouldn't show more than 497 days... .TM. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:24 PM, shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com wrote: On Mar 2, 5:35 pm, pie...@hogranch.com (John R Pierce) wrote: Tom Lane wrote: shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com writes: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, some of those versions are old...its government, and I unfortunately don't have control over the version. Er ... Red Hat *what*? I don't think they ever used such a version number. If they did it was a very long time ago (for calibration, they were just about to release RHL 7.3 when I joined the company, in 2001). well, remember, they went Red Hat Linux 7.x, 8.x, 9 then very quickly switched to Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2, 2.1, 3, 4, and currently RHEL 5. RHEL 3 has had several quarterly updates, most recent of which is u9(I think), sometimes referred to as 3.9. if its RHEL 3 update-something that shadrack is discussing, it came with php 4.3.2 and rh-postgresql 7.3.21 (shudder!) -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-gene...@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription:http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general Yes, we had postgresql 7.3 but I installed postgresql 8.3 onto the rhel3. Do you think its going to work? What's the solution that involves the least work, considering I'm not the one maintaining these machines? Do you think it would be simple for the IT person to update to rhel5 and php5? Its basically just one machine that he would have to update. Thoughts? Thanks so much for all the feedback. shad Going straight to RHEL 5 would be a way smarter move. it's stable, it's supported, and it has php5 and pgsql 8.something as a default (8.2? Somewhere in there). Plus,. if you want 8.3 you just don't install 8.2 and instead grab the PGDG rpms from the postgresql ftp site. I could maybe understand a corporate policy of supporting RHEL4, but RHEL3 is ancient. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
[GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, some of those versions are old...its government, and I unfortunately don't have control over the version. In fact, I don't even have root access right now. But I've got projects waiting to go live if I can get php and postgresql to talk to each other. When I try to connect, I get...call to undefined function pg_connect. When I look in the php.ini file, there is no pgsql.so file, and in the extension library in /usr/lib/php4...I only see ldap.so. So do I need to have the IT person download the pgsql-php rpm? Will that take care of this? This might be the only option, so hoepfully there's something I can do. Or should I just push to install php5 if they let me? Will php5 and postgresql work together inherently? Or will I need to add modules to the initial php5 installation? Thanks for any help! Shad -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
On Monday 02 March 2009, shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com wrote: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, some of those versions are old...its government, and I unfortunately don't have control over the version. In fact, I don't even have root access right now. But I've got projects waiting to go live if I can get php and postgresql to talk to each other. When I try to connect, I get...call to undefined function pg_connect. When I look in the php.ini file, there is no pgsql.so file, and in the extension library in /usr/lib/php4...I only see ldap.so. So do I need to have the IT person download the pgsql-php rpm? Will that take care of this? This might be the only option, so hoepfully there's something I can do. Or should I just push to install php5 if they let me? Will php5 and postgresql work together inherently? Or will I need to add modules to the initial php5 installation? Thanks for any help! Shad I think either version can be made to work, but the problem you're going to run into is that the vendor-supplied packages aren't compiled against PostgreSQL 8.3. They'd need to rebuild the PHP RPM and then install the PHP pgsql module (for either version). Or, they can install the vendor-supplied package, but you'd need the older postgresql library that it was compiled against also on the system, through a compatibility package or just hacked in manually (and appropriate overrides provided to RPM when installing the PHP module). -- Even a sixth-grader can figure out that you can’t borrow money to pay off your debt -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM, shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com wrote: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, You should be fine. PostgreSQL 8.3 will answer most older pgsql clients coming from the server just fine, so you don't have to compile php by hand or anything to get it to talk to postgresql. The real issues to pop up will be compiling pgsql 8.3 on that old of a version of RHEL. I'm not saying you will have problems, just that if you do, expect it to be there. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com writes: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, some of those versions are old...its government, and I unfortunately don't have control over the version. Er ... Red Hat *what*? I don't think they ever used such a version number. If they did it was a very long time ago (for calibration, they were just about to release RHL 7.3 when I joined the company, in 2001). You could probably scare the powers-that-be into letting you update the thing just on the grounds of it still being full of Y2K bugs. But more likely you read the wrong version number. What does it say in /etc/redhat-release ? (As already noted, php4 versus PG 8.3 is the least of your worries. I'm just wondering whether you are on an OS version that's stable enough that you should consider going live with *anything*.) regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Shad Keene shadke...@hotmail.com wrote: We already have the postgresql installed and its working fine but I can't communicate with it using php4 that's installed. I can't find the php-pgsql module or the pgsql.so in php.ini. So I'm getting an error on pg_connect. Any suggestions on what to do from here? sudo yum install php-pgsql* maybe sudo rpm --install php-pgsql.rpm or whatever the file name is. If you're that unfamiliar with Red Hat, making you live with RHEL3 is not gonna help things. I don't even know if it has yum, so you get to have all the fun of rpm dependency resolution solving by yourself. Honestly, If I was on an OS that old I'd probably just compile everything from source. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
We already have the postgresql installed and its working fine but I can't communicate with it using php4 that's installed. I can't find the php-pgsql module or the pgsql.so in php.ini. So I'm getting an error on pg_connect. Any suggestions on what to do from here? Can I simply download php-pgsql and the pgsql.so? And if so, how do I find the version that works with php4 and postgres 8.3? Thanks, Shad Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:42:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3 From: scott.marl...@gmail.com To: shadke...@hotmail.com CC: pgsql-general@postgresql.org On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM, shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com wrote: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, You should be fine. PostgreSQL 8.3 will answer most older pgsql clients coming from the server just fine, so you don't have to compile php by hand or anything to get it to talk to postgresql. The real issues to pop up will be compiling pgsql 8.3 on that old of a version of RHEL. I'm not saying you will have problems, just that if you do, expect it to be there. _ Windows Live™: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
Tom Lane wrote: shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com writes: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, some of those versions are old...its government, and I unfortunately don't have control over the version. Er ... Red Hat *what*? I don't think they ever used such a version number. If they did it was a very long time ago (for calibration, they were just about to release RHL 7.3 when I joined the company, in 2001). well, remember, they went Red Hat Linux 7.x, 8.x, 9 then very quickly switched to Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2, 2.1, 3, 4, and currently RHEL 5. RHEL 3 has had several quarterly updates, most recent of which is u9(I think), sometimes referred to as 3.9. if its RHEL 3 update-something that shadrack is discussing, it came with php 4.3.2 and rh-postgresql 7.3.21 (shudder!) -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: Tom Lane wrote: shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com writes: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, some of those versions are old...its government, and I unfortunately don't have control over the version. Er ... Red Hat *what*? I don't think they ever used such a version number. If they did it was a very long time ago (for calibration, they were just about to release RHL 7.3 when I joined the company, in 2001). well, remember, they went Red Hat Linux 7.x, 8.x, 9 then very quickly switched to Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2, 2.1, 3, 4, and currently RHEL 5. RHEL 3 has had several quarterly updates, most recent of which is u9(I think), sometimes referred to as 3.9. if its RHEL 3 update-something that shadrack is discussing, it came with php 4.3.2 and rh-postgresql 7.3.21 (shudder!) I wonder if the people making this decision are familiar with this document at redhat: https://www.redhat.com/security/updates/errata/ Which pretty much says that RHEL3 is on its last legs, will get only security updates, and may get individual bug fixes if they're really severe. So, when some PHP bug means you can't do something you need to do in production, you get no help from RedHat. They've got other customers to worry about. Once RHEL is in the third of three phases of release, it's intended to be maintained, not used for fresh new projects etc... Somebody's conservatism is gonna cost the OP a LOT of time and effort. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM, shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com wrote: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, You do know that php4 is discontinued, right? No more bug fixes, no more security fixes. I hope you're having to install something really really old that needs no maintenance. If you're expected to develop on this, do the right thing and quit now. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
Shad Keene wrote: We already have the postgresql installed and its working fine but I can't communicate with it using php4 that's installed. I can't find the php-pgsql module or the pgsql.so in php.ini. So I'm getting an error on pg_connect. Any suggestions on what to do from here? Can I simply download php-pgsql and the pgsql.so? And if so, how do I find the version that works with php4 and postgres 8.3? you can't simply jam in a different php-pgsql module, as PHP is built as an integrated package with Apache and any modules and client libraries. assuming this system is in fact Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3, and is still on Red Hat Network support contract, up2date -U php-pgsql (or maybe its -u, I forget) should take care of the php part. this will, however, try and load the RHEL 3.x libpq.so, which was built for rh_postgresql 7.3.3, a very very ancient version of postgresql, and its very unclear if this will interoperate correctly with Postgres 8.3. At one time, a member of the postgres development group was building a RPM compat-postgresql-libs for RHEL3 which would work here, however, they no longer support RHEL3 as it won't work within their Xen based build cluster. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
Scott Marlowe wrote: On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:44 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: (or maybe its -u, I forget) should take care of the php part. this will, however, try and load the RHEL 3.x libpq.so, which was built for rh_postgresql 7.3.3, a very very ancient version of postgresql, and its very unclear if this will interoperate correctly with Postgres 8.3. At one time, It will. pg 8.x can talk as far back as something like 6.3. 6.2 was abandoned a couple years back I believe. so, then the question becomes one of whether or not the rh-postgresql-libs RPM will conflict with whatever customer 8.3 build shad k. is using... hopefully, the 8.3 build has its libraries in a private location like /opt/pgsql83/lib or /usr/local/pgsql/lib rather than the RH default location of /usr/lib ...the php-pgsql module is likely going to load the /usr/lib/libpq.so 7.3 library and try to connect with the 8.3 server. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 8:44 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: (or maybe its -u, I forget) should take care of the php part. this will, however, try and load the RHEL 3.x libpq.so, which was built for rh_postgresql 7.3.3, a very very ancient version of postgresql, and its very unclear if this will interoperate correctly with Postgres 8.3. At one time, It will. pg 8.x can talk as far back as something like 6.3. 6.2 was abandoned a couple years back I believe. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] php4 and postgresql 8.3
On Mar 2, 5:35 pm, pie...@hogranch.com (John R Pierce) wrote: Tom Lane wrote: shadrack shadke...@hotmail.com writes: My basic question is...are php4 and postgresql 8.3 compatible? I'm running Linux Redhat 3.4.6, php4.3.9, and postgresql 8.3. I know, some of those versions are old...its government, and I unfortunately don't have control over the version. Er ... Red Hat *what*? I don't think they ever used such a version number. If they did it was a very long time ago (for calibration, they were just about to release RHL 7.3 when I joined the company, in 2001). well, remember, they went Red Hat Linux 7.x, 8.x, 9 then very quickly switched to Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2, 2.1, 3, 4, and currently RHEL 5. RHEL 3 has had several quarterly updates, most recent of which is u9(I think), sometimes referred to as 3.9. if its RHEL 3 update-something that shadrack is discussing, it came with php 4.3.2 and rh-postgresql 7.3.21 (shudder!) -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-gene...@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription:http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general Yes, we had postgresql 7.3 but I installed postgresql 8.3 onto the rhel3. Do you think its going to work? What's the solution that involves the least work, considering I'm not the one maintaining these machines? Do you think it would be simple for the IT person to update to rhel5 and php5? Its basically just one machine that he would have to update. Thoughts? Thanks so much for all the feedback. shad -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
