Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [pdxpug] Pg booth staffing at OSCON

2008-07-16 Thread Josh Berkus
Daniel,

 And now I see that commandprompt has posted a postgres job this
 afternoon.  D'oh!

Heh, should have asked.  There's generally lots of PostgreSQL work available, 
although some of it does require relocation ...

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [pdxpug] Pg booth staffing at OSCON

2008-07-15 Thread Josh Berkus
Daniel,

 I'm starting a new job this week, but they said I can get the OSCON
 days off so I can fill in the booth for many of the empty spots.  I
 don't want to do the booth during the keynotes (and what would be the
 point anyways no one will be in the exhibitor hall), and I'd kinda
 like to schedule it around when things of interest are happening in
 OSCAMP, but who knows what that schedule will be until the conference
 actually starts.

Well, you can obviously get into OSCAMP and FOSSCoach and the BOFs and the 
other free events.  Not that I'd be promoting such a thing (as an OSCON 
committee member), but if there's *a* specific session you want to attend, 
you can probably persuade one of the several PostgreSQL speakers to loan you 
their badge.

If you want a full pass, I have access to substantial discount codes, although 
you already missed the early bird discount.

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [pdxpug] Pg booth staffing at OSCON

2008-07-15 Thread Daniel Johnson
 Well, you can obviously get into OSCAMP and FOSSCoach and the BOFs and the
 other free events.  Not that I'd be promoting such a thing (as an OSCON
 committee member), but if there's *a* specific session you want to attend,
 you can probably persuade one of the several PostgreSQL speakers to loan you
 their badge.

No offense, but in the years that I have been going to OSCON I've
never had anywhere near enough money to buy a real pass to OSCON.
Every year it has been volunteering for a booth, or attending OSCAMP.
Last year I was able to afford Ubuntu Live through one of the more
extreme discount codes, but that is it.  There are lots of people who
participate as much as they can by way of volunteering, and I am one
of them.  We help make the conference happen so please treat us with
respect even if we can't afford to pay are way in.

As a committee members you are technically a volunteer with a free
pass yourself!

I would have really loved to attend as a regular conference goer, but
that just isn't financially possible for me.  I almost got one this
year because a friend on the committee can't come this year, but
apparently committee passes aren't transferable.

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [pdxpug] Pg booth staffing at OSCON

2008-07-15 Thread Josh Berkus

Daniel,

 We help make the conference happen so please treat us with

respect even if we can't afford to pay are way in.


Huh?  How was I disrespectful?  Because I suggested discounts?


As a committee members you are technically a volunteer with a free
pass yourself!


Well, I actually have a free pass because I'm a speaker.  Presumably you 
could also get one as a volunteer in other areas like working the 
speaker room -- I don't know where ORA uses volunteers.


The vendor booths are seen as benefitting the vendor (or open source 
project) and not as benefitting O'Reilly.  Remember that ORA doesn't 
charge for access to the Exhibit Hall.


So, if there are specific sessions you want to get into, you can 
probably manage it, but not I nor Selena nor Gabrielle have access to 
any full conference passes.



I would have really loved to attend as a regular conference goer, but
that just isn't financially possible for me.  


Nor is it for a lot of people.  For whatever reason O'Reilly chose the 
route years ago of having a lot of free and heavily discounted passes 
for open source luminaries, and charging a lot to the *minority* of 
attendees who can pay.  You can argue whether or not this financial 
model was a good idea, but it's pretty well established now.


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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [pdxpug] Pg booth staffing at OSCON

2008-07-15 Thread Robert Treat
On Tuesday 15 July 2008 10:42:07 Daniel Johnson wrote:
  Well, you can obviously get into OSCAMP and FOSSCoach and the BOFs and
  the other free events.  Not that I'd be promoting such a thing (as an
  OSCON committee member), but if there's *a* specific session you want to
  attend, you can probably persuade one of the several PostgreSQL speakers
  to loan you their badge.

 No offense, but in the years that I have been going to OSCON I've
 never had anywhere near enough money to buy a real pass to OSCON.
 Every year it has been volunteering for a booth, or attending OSCAMP.
 Last year I was able to afford Ubuntu Live through one of the more
 extreme discount codes, but that is it.  There are lots of people who
 participate as much as they can by way of volunteering, and I am one
 of them.  We help make the conference happen so please treat us with
 respect even if we can't afford to pay are way in.


I can't imagine how you could have taken Josh's post to be anything but 
courteous and respectful, but I do encourage you to join us at the BOF where 
we can settle it once and for all sumo suits anyone?  
http://www.maineventweb.com/page/page/2916926.htm

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [pdxpug] Pg booth staffing at OSCON

2008-07-15 Thread Daniel Johnson
 I can't imagine how you could have taken Josh's post to be anything but
 courteous and respectful, but I do encourage you to join us at the BOF where
 we can settle it once and for all sumo suits anyone?
 http://www.maineventweb.com/page/page/2916926.htm

I'm going to blame the stress of starting a new job this morning that
involves oracle.  /me shudders...

And now I see that commandprompt has posted a postgres job this
afternoon.  D'oh!

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [pdxpug] Pg booth staffing at OSCON

2008-07-15 Thread Joshua D. Drake

Daniel Johnson wrote:

I can't imagine how you could have taken Josh's post to be anything but
courteous and respectful, but I do encourage you to join us at the BOF where
we can settle it once and for all sumo suits anyone?
http://www.maineventweb.com/page/page/2916926.htm


I'm going to blame the stress of starting a new job this morning that
involves oracle.  /me shudders...

And now I see that commandprompt has posted a postgres job this
afternoon.  D'oh!



And we watch these lists :P

Joshua D. Drake

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