Re: [GENERAL] Database access over the Internet...
Michelle, I don't think the list is going to change its operations for one disgruntled user. Since you seem unwilling or unable to employ the advice already given, maybe your only acceptable option is to unsubscribe from the list. At least that would eliminate much of the noise that currently is cluttering everyone's inboxes. - Original Message - From: Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pgsql-general@postgresql.org Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 4:41 AM Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Database access over the Internet... -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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You did not understand the problem 1) You did not explain the problem. 2) It's your problem, not ours. Your demand that thousands of other people adapt to your unusual problem is absurdly self-absorbed. Get decent email service, then subscribe from there. (Or go away. Either works for the members of this list, so it's really your choice.) -- Scott Ribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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Scott Marlowe wrote: In my view, anything that causes people to check more closely about exactly where a reply is being sent is a good thing. Really? Really? I spend a fair bit of time on these lists helping people out. If I have to examine my reply-tos every time I'm done. I hit reply to all and type. Knowing that my reply goes where it's supposed to. I have better things to do than argue this point over and over, and so do a lot of other very helpful folks on this list. There is an OPTION that fixes the cc problem for people with brain dead email clients that can't eliminate the duplicate for them. It's in the FAQ. I think we've done enough for those people. Agreed. Some of us could just add Michelle to our auto-delete mailbox rules and then Michelle would never have to worry about getting email help from us. Michelle is asking to be involved in this community and there are requirements for that involvement. -- Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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Steve Atkins wrote: On Nov 16, 2008, at 2:41 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-11-15 09:53:15, schrieb Scott Marlowe: What's mess up is that the solution given the user DOES work. She just refuses to try it, because she assumes that the mailing list server doesn't see the exact same CC list as her email server. Well, it does, and it then drops the message outbound for her so she ONLY gets it from the original sender. You did not understand the problem My Mailbox which I use for my business is bombed by over 50.000 spams per day and I do already heavy filtering. I have to read my mail while I am @work which mean, MOBILE using my cellphone connected to my Laptop. Since I read the List ove another channel AND already filtering my own threads (and convert it into a form which is much smaller then E-Mails) to get rid of the rest from the list since I am subscribed to over 120 mailinglists and need less then 3% from it... So, peoples now sending me PMs does not help, since it DoS my system and make it harder for me to work since I have to walk through this messages I do not need because I have it already seen. Well, go away then. If you are too cheap to receive emails in answer to your questions, stop asking questions. This is not a support channel you should consider using until you learn enough courtesy and basic competence with email to interact in public. Cheers, Steve I don't think that what Michelle is asking is unreasonable. While certainly not a universal standard a significant subset of mailing lists definitely support the view that personal replies are unneccessary (and many lists forbid/discourage them). I also think (based on what I've read from Michelle here and on other lists) that it'd be a drag to lose the participation of someone who has often contributed interesting viewpoints/information to technical discussions. In my view, anything that causes people to check more closely about exactly where a reply is being sent is a good thing. be well, ~c -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: List Ettiquette (perhaps Off Topic by now) was: Re: [GENERAL] Database access over the Internet...
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:46 AM, charlie derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Atkins wrote: On Nov 16, 2008, at 2:41 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-11-15 09:53:15, schrieb Scott Marlowe: What's mess up is that the solution given the user DOES work. She just refuses to try it, because she assumes that the mailing list server doesn't see the exact same CC list as her email server. Well, it does, and it then drops the message outbound for her so she ONLY gets it from the original sender. You did not understand the problem My Mailbox which I use for my business is bombed by over 50.000 spams per day and I do already heavy filtering. I have to read my mail while I am @work which mean, MOBILE using my cellphone connected to my Laptop. Since I read the List ove another channel AND already filtering my own threads (and convert it into a form which is much smaller then E-Mails) to get rid of the rest from the list since I am subscribed to over 120 mailinglists and need less then 3% from it... So, peoples now sending me PMs does not help, since it DoS my system and make it harder for me to work since I have to walk through this messages I do not need because I have it already seen. Well, go away then. If you are too cheap to receive emails in answer to your questions, stop asking questions. This is not a support channel you should consider using until you learn enough courtesy and basic competence with email to interact in public. Cheers, Steve I don't think that what Michelle is asking is unreasonable. While certainly not a universal standard a significant subset of mailing lists definitely support the view that personal replies are unneccessary (and many lists forbid/discourage them). This one does not. On this list, you reply all to list and user. That's how it's setup. And there's a VERY easy to configure option to stop the mailing list server from sending you a cc when someone has replied to both you and the list. I am not hitting reply all then editing the outbound list everytime Michelle gets on the list. Not when she's got a very simple solution she's refused to even try. I've seen no confirmation from her that she's tried the solution and it didn't work. I have been shouted at a lot for not understanding and terrorizing her. I also think (based on what I've read from Michelle here and on other lists) that it'd be a drag to lose the participation of someone who has often contributed interesting viewpoints/information to technical discussions. It would. It's also a shame they can't even try the solution provided and then report back whether or not it worked. In my view, anything that causes people to check more closely about exactly where a reply is being sent is a good thing. Really? Really? I spend a fair bit of time on these lists helping people out. If I have to examine my reply-tos every time I'm done. I hit reply to all and type. Knowing that my reply goes where it's supposed to. I have better things to do than argue this point over and over, and so do a lot of other very helpful folks on this list. There is an OPTION that fixes the cc problem for people with brain dead email clients that can't eliminate the duplicate for them. It's in the FAQ. I think we've done enough for those people. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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Am 2008-11-15 09:53:15, schrieb Scott Marlowe: What's mess up is that the solution given the user DOES work. She just refuses to try it, because she assumes that the mailing list server doesn't see the exact same CC list as her email server. Well, it does, and it then drops the message outbound for her so she ONLY gets it from the original sender. You did not understand the problem My Mailbox which I use for my business is bombed by over 50.000 spams per day and I do already heavy filtering. I have to read my mail while I am @work which mean, MOBILE using my cellphone connected to my Laptop. Since I read the List ove another channel AND already filtering my own threads (and convert it into a form which is much smaller then E-Mails) to get rid of the rest from the list since I am subscribed to over 120 mailinglists and need less then 3% from it... So, peoples now sending me PMs does not help, since it DoS my system and make it harder for me to work since I have to walk through this messages I do not need because I have it already seen. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
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On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 3:41 AM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2008-11-15 09:53:15, schrieb Scott Marlowe: What's mess up is that the solution given the user DOES work. She just refuses to try it, because she assumes that the mailing list server doesn't see the exact same CC list as her email server. Well, it does, and it then drops the message outbound for her so she ONLY gets it from the original sender. You did not understand the problem My Mailbox which I use for my business is bombed by over 50.000 spams per day and I do already heavy filtering. I have to read my mail while I am @work which mean, MOBILE using my cellphone connected to my Laptop. These two requirements seem at odds. If you read your email on laptop connected via cell phones then you don't need to be anywhere except somewhere that has cell phone coverage. Since I read the List ove another channel AND already filtering my own threads (and convert it into a form which is much smaller then E-Mails) to get rid of the rest from the list since I am subscribed to over 120 mailinglists and need less then 3% from it... So, what other method is this? I still don't understand the problem. In your haste to send out an email explaining it to me, you've failed to really explain it. If you send the eliminatecc command to the mailing list server it won't send you an email. Are you saying you read this list some other way than a subscription to the mailing list? Because you said quite clearly in your first message you WERE subscribed to this list. So, are you subscribed through another account? Read through USENET? If you are subscribed via this account, and are getting an email from the user and the list, eliminatecc will work. Otherwise, no. So, peoples now sending me PMs does not help, since it DoS my system and make it harder for me to work since I have to walk through this messages I do not need because I have it already seen. WHERE have you already seen them. I'm still not understanding. If you're gonna subscribe to a list, do so with an email account that can handle being sent emails. One that breaks from the relatively low traffic generated by a conversation on this list can't be even a small percentage of the real spam it must already get. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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On Nov 16, 2008, at 2:41 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-11-15 09:53:15, schrieb Scott Marlowe: What's mess up is that the solution given the user DOES work. She just refuses to try it, because she assumes that the mailing list server doesn't see the exact same CC list as her email server. Well, it does, and it then drops the message outbound for her so she ONLY gets it from the original sender. You did not understand the problem My Mailbox which I use for my business is bombed by over 50.000 spams per day and I do already heavy filtering. I have to read my mail while I am @work which mean, MOBILE using my cellphone connected to my Laptop. Since I read the List ove another channel AND already filtering my own threads (and convert it into a form which is much smaller then E- Mails) to get rid of the rest from the list since I am subscribed to over 120 mailinglists and need less then 3% from it... So, peoples now sending me PMs does not help, since it DoS my system and make it harder for me to work since I have to walk through this messages I do not need because I have it already seen. Well, go away then. If you are too cheap to receive emails in answer to your questions, stop asking questions. This is not a support channel you should consider using until you learn enough courtesy and basic competence with email to interact in public. Cheers, Steve Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
Re: [GENERAL] Database access over the Internet...
And what does this have to do with CC? The CCs come in without passing the listserver and I do not want this mail! And if someone makes a mistake and accidentally emails you directly, WHILE TRYING TO HELP YOU AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, perhaps you should react gracefully instead of being a whiny rude jackass. This message sent to the list at your request ;-) -- Scott Ribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Scott Ribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what does this have to do with CC? The CCs come in without passing the listserver and I do not want this mail! And if someone makes a mistake and accidentally emails you directly, WHILE TRYING TO HELP YOU AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, perhaps you should react gracefully instead of being a whiny rude jackass. What's mess up is that the solution given the user DOES work. She just refuses to try it, because she assumes that the mailing list server doesn't see the exact same CC list as her email server. Well, it does, and it then drops the message outbound for her so she ONLY gets it from the original sender. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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What's mess up is that the solution given the user DOES work. What's messed up is that a person asking for free help from a group of volunteers would insistently place unusual restrictions on how she will accept that help, then lecture those who tried to help but hadn't noticed her specific terms. I wouldn't have been nearly as harsh in my reply, probably wouldn't have replied at all, if she hadn't referred to the email coming to her as terrorism. Now granted English may not be her first language so I'll assume that's a poor translation and she really meant something closer to harassment. But even so, her position is outstandingly absurd, to accuse people of harassing her for attempting to answer her question. Perhaps someone should speak to her about the advantages of MySQL? -- Scott Ribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.killerbytes.com/ (303) 722-0567 voice -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-11-08 19:07:35, schrieb Scott Marlowe: No, your histrionics aside, it's the way this list works by default, and for good reason. If you need it to work differently, there's a setting which has been pointed out to you at two times now. Please take responsibility for your own life and fix the configuration and stop whinging. It does not work since the CCs are coming FROM the sender and NOT from the mailinglist. I'm thinking that if you check the setting per the faq that has been pointed out, that majordomo will note that you've been cc'd directly, and so will not send you the copy from the mailing list. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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On 09/11/2008 04:32, Uwe C. Schroeder wrote: Actually it's polite and pretty much standard to hit reply all and I for one appreciate it when I'm kept on CC, just because originally I was interested in the topic discussed and I might miss the response otherwise. There's also the fact that people quite often post to the list without actually being subscribed - so if there were no CC they'd never get an answer to their question. Ray. -- Raymond O'Donnell, Director of Music, Galway Cathedral, Ireland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galway Cathedral Recitals: http://www.galwaycathedral.org/recitals -- -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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Am 2008-11-07 07:51:37, schrieb Scott Marlowe: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Do not Cc: me, because I READ THIS LIST, if I write here * *Keine Cc: am mich, ich LESE DIESE LISTE wenn ich hier schreibe* Again, you get to look up the options for major domo to alleviate the problem. What does this have to do, if peoples are bombing my linux4michelle account? I have set my account to nomail or delivery off but peoples continuing to send me tonns of PM's as CC. If you look in the Header of my message you will see, that my access provider is the german GSM operator O2. Bombing my public account with useless messages is terroism... And of course, even if I am set to NOMAIL, I read the messages. (otherwise I would not able to answer...) Depends. I've used extranet connections that worked quite well. If you can talk your hosting provider(s) into setting them up for you they're still way cheaper than having monstrous database servers all over the place. You can also look into using a VPN connection between hosting centers. This would go across the regular old internet but have the advantage of making it look, from a networking perspective, like your machines were sitting next to each other (except for the increase in latency of course). Hmmm... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
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On Saturday 08 November 2008 4:37:57 pm Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-11-07 07:51:37, schrieb Scott Marlowe: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *** * * Do not Cc: me, because I READ THIS LIST, if I write here * *Keine Cc: am mich, ich LESE DIESE LISTE wenn ich hier schreibe * *** * Again, you get to look up the options for major domo to alleviate the problem. What does this have to do, if peoples are bombing my linux4michelle account? I have set my account to nomail or delivery off but peoples continuing to send me tonns of PM's as CC. See: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ.html#item1.15 If you look in the Header of my message you will see, that my access provider is the german GSM operator O2. Bombing my public account with useless messages is terroism... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Adrian Klaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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Am 2008-11-08 19:07:35, schrieb Scott Marlowe: No, your histrionics aside, it's the way this list works by default, and for good reason. If you need it to work differently, there's a setting which has been pointed out to you at two times now. Please take responsibility for your own life and fix the configuration and stop whinging. It does not work since the CCs are coming FROM the sender and NOT from the mailinglist. And since most peoples hiting Reply-All they should delete my address from the recipients... It is very annoying, if I work Outside and must read my WORK E-Mails with my GSM and haf to walk trough 100 of CCs which are definitively not important. And of course, each CC cost me money... 0.009 Euro/kByte. Getting per day 1 MByte of CC is annoying. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
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On Nov 8, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-11-08 17:03:39, schrieb Adrian Klaver: See: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ.html#item1.15 And what does this have to do with CC? The CCs come in without passing the listserver and I do not want this mail! I want only PM if I request it OR, in case of urgence! So I add the banner to let peoples know I DO NOT WANT CCS. You, presumably, want the mail that's sent to the list (if you don't, go away and stop annoying everyone else). So, you want one copy of each email sent to the list, rather than two copies. So, if the listserver suppresses list email to you in the case where you've already been CCed on the mail you get... one copy of each email sent to the list. Which is what you seem to be claiming you want. All you'd need to do to get that would be to stop behaving as you are, read the FAQ you've been pointed at and configure your majordomo account appropriately. (If you're doing something different, such as reading the list solely via usenet or something, then that may not work for you, but at that point it's your problem). Cheers, Steve -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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On Saturday 08 November 2008, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2008-11-08 19:07:35, schrieb Scott Marlowe: No, your histrionics aside, it's the way this list works by default, and for good reason. If you need it to work differently, there's a setting which has been pointed out to you at two times now. Please take responsibility for your own life and fix the configuration and stop whinging. It does not work since the CCs are coming FROM the sender and NOT from the mailinglist. And since most peoples hiting Reply-All they should delete my address from the recipients... It is very annoying, if I work Outside and must read my WORK E-Mails with my GSM and haf to walk trough 100 of CCs which are definitively not important. And of course, each CC cost me money... 0.009 Euro/kByte. Getting per day 1 MByte of CC is annoying. So basically you want everyone here to accomodate your wishes, just because you have a GSM plan that sucks? Get yourself a hotmail or google address and use that to subscribe to this list. Then you can read the responses from a normal computer when you choose to. Actually it's polite and pretty much standard to hit reply all and I for one appreciate it when I'm kept on CC, just because originally I was interested in the topic discussed and I might miss the response otherwise. It's really not anyone's responsibility to pay attention to this. If you don't want CC's to your GSM, don't use the GSM's email address to sign up to the list - simple as that. Note: I manually took you off the CC - don't want to be the reason you have to file for bancruptcy. Uwe -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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Am 2008-11-08 17:03:39, schrieb Adrian Klaver: See: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ.html#item1.15 And what does this have to do with CC? The CCs come in without passing the listserver and I do not want this mail! I want only PM if I request it OR, in case of urgence! So I add the banner to let peoples know I DO NOT WANT CCS. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
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On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 2008-11-07 07:51:37, schrieb Scott Marlowe: On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Do not Cc: me, because I READ THIS LIST, if I write here * *Keine Cc: am mich, ich LESE DIESE LISTE wenn ich hier schreibe* Again, you get to look up the options for major domo to alleviate the problem. What does this have to do, if peoples are bombing my linux4michelle account? I have set my account to nomail or delivery off but peoples continuing to send me tonns of PM's as CC. If you look in the Header of my message you will see, that my access provider is the german GSM operator O2. Bombing my public account with useless messages is terroism... No, your histrionics aside, it's the way this list works by default, and for good reason. If you need it to work differently, there's a setting which has been pointed out to you at two times now. Please take responsibility for your own life and fix the configuration and stop whinging. -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
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On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Do not Cc: me, because I READ THIS LIST, if I write here * *Keine Cc: am mich, ich LESE DIESE LISTE wenn ich hier schreibe* Again, you get to look up the options for major domo to alleviate the problem. ...because using 2-3 differnet databases sucks! Agreed. especially if they are supposed to hold the same data set. After IRC'ing with some peoples and discusing about PostgreSQL, MySQL, SQlite, Oracle Informix and others I like to know, if you use a database access over the Internet what your experience is with... Depends. I've used extranet connections that worked quite well. If you can talk your hosting provider(s) into setting them up for you they're still way cheaper than having monstrous database servers all over the place. You can also look into using a VPN connection between hosting centers. This would go across the regular old internet but have the advantage of making it look, from a networking perspective, like your machines were sitting next to each other (except for the increase in latency of course). -- Sent via pgsql-general mailing list (pgsql-general@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-general
