Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-09 Thread David Fetter
On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 10:49:02AM -0800, Colin Fox wrote:
 David Fetter wrote:
  On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Colin Fox wrote:

  I've created a pg_foundry project for this.
 
  Assuming the project gets approved, I'll post the link here.
  
 
  Wouldn't it be better just to send that XSLT to the upstream
  project?
 
  Cheers, David.

 I don't know which project you mean. The postgresql project?

Actually, I meant the xmltoddl project. http://xml2ddl.berlios.de/

 I have a couple of files that go along with it - instructions, some
 documentation, examples, etc.
 
 I'm certainly more than willing to provide this to the PG team, if
 they're interested.
 
 It just seems that the pg_foundry is a logical place to put all the
 project information.

See above :)

Cheers,
David.
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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-08 Thread David Fetter
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Colin Fox wrote:
 I've created a pg_foundry project for this.
 
 Assuming the project gets approved, I'll post the link here.

Wouldn't it be better just to send that XSLT to the upstream project?

Cheers,
David.
 
 Regards,
   cf
 
 
 Malinka Rellikwodahs wrote:
  i'm interested in both the xml extractor and the conversion, could you
  reply with a link or some such it would be greatly appreciated ;)
 
  On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Colin Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Conor McTernan wrote:
   I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
   Postgres that run on Linux.
  
   I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
   development has stopped while MySQL workbench is being built (for
   windows only). Neither of these applications will talk to
  Postgres and
   I've found DBDesigner to be a bit buggy at the best of times (it's
   still quite good and better than nothing I suppose).
  
   I've been using PgAdmin3 which is great for updating/managing
   tables/view etc, but I would really like something for modelling ER
   diagrams which will talk directly to Postgres.
  
   Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that
  will do this?
  
   Cheers,
  
   Conor
  
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  I've created an XSL stylesheet that works with graphviz to reverse
  engineer an ERD from a postgres database.
 
  If anyone's interested, I can make this available. It works quite
  well.
  It uses a postgres-to-xml extractor that someone wrote (I don't
  know who
  - their name is not in the file) and then I convert the xml to
  graphviz.
 
  Regards
   cf
 
 
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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-08 Thread Colin Fox
David Fetter wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 01:22:49PM -0800, Colin Fox wrote:
   
 I've created a pg_foundry project for this.

 Assuming the project gets approved, I'll post the link here.
 

 Wouldn't it be better just to send that XSLT to the upstream project?

 Cheers,
 David.
   
I don't know which project you mean. The postgresql project?

I have a couple of files that go along with it - instructions, some
documentation, examples, etc.

I'm certainly more than willing to provide this to the PG team, if
they're interested.

It just seems that the pg_foundry is a logical place to put all the
project information.

Regards,
  cf


 Regards,
   cf


 Malinka Rellikwodahs wrote:
 
 i'm interested in both the xml extractor and the conversion, could you
 reply with a link or some such it would be greatly appreciated ;)

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Colin Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Conor McTernan wrote:
  I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
  Postgres that run on Linux.
 
  I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
  development has stopped while MySQL workbench is being built (for
  windows only). Neither of these applications will talk to
 Postgres and
  I've found DBDesigner to be a bit buggy at the best of times (it's
  still quite good and better than nothing I suppose).
 
  I've been using PgAdmin3 which is great for updating/managing
  tables/view etc, but I would really like something for modelling ER
  diagrams which will talk directly to Postgres.
 
  Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that
 will do this?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Conor
 
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 I've created an XSL stylesheet that works with graphviz to reverse
 engineer an ERD from a postgres database.

 If anyone's interested, I can make this available. It works quite
 well.
 It uses a postgres-to-xml extractor that someone wrote (I don't
 know who
 - their name is not in the file) and then I convert the xml to
 graphviz.

 Regards
  cf


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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-07 Thread Colin Fox
Conor McTernan wrote:
 I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
 Postgres that run on Linux.

 I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
 development has stopped while MySQL workbench is being built (for
 windows only). Neither of these applications will talk to Postgres and
 I've found DBDesigner to be a bit buggy at the best of times (it's
 still quite good and better than nothing I suppose).

 I've been using PgAdmin3 which is great for updating/managing
 tables/view etc, but I would really like something for modelling ER
 diagrams which will talk directly to Postgres.

 Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that will do this?

 Cheers,

 Conor

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I've created an XSL stylesheet that works with graphviz to reverse
engineer an ERD from a postgres database.

If anyone's interested, I can make this available. It works quite well.
It uses a postgres-to-xml extractor that someone wrote (I don't know who
- their name is not in the file) and then I convert the xml to graphviz.

Regards
  cf


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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-07 Thread Thomas Kellerer

Conor McTernan wrote on 06.03.2008 04:33:

I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
development has stopped 


It seems that someone picked up the source. There is a new project on 
sourceforge that seems to continue the work on DbDesigner:


https://sourceforge.net/projects/dbdesigner-fork/


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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-07 Thread David Fetter
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 11:44:38AM -0800, Colin Fox wrote:
 Conor McTernan wrote:
  I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
  Postgres that run on Linux.
 
  I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
  development has stopped while MySQL workbench is being built (for
  windows only). Neither of these applications will talk to Postgres and
  I've found DBDesigner to be a bit buggy at the best of times (it's
  still quite good and better than nothing I suppose).
 
  I've been using PgAdmin3 which is great for updating/managing
  tables/view etc, but I would really like something for modelling ER
  diagrams which will talk directly to Postgres.
 
  Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that will do 
  this?
 
  Cheers,

 I've created an XSL stylesheet that works with graphviz to reverse
 engineer an ERD from a postgres database.
 
 If anyone's interested, I can make this available. It works quite
 well.  It uses a postgres-to-xml extractor that someone wrote (I
 don't know who - their name is not in the file) and then I convert
 the xml to graphviz.

Sounds good :)

Cheers,
David.
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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-07 Thread Bjørn T Johansen
On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:44:38 -0800
Colin Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've created an XSL stylesheet that works with graphviz to reverse
 engineer an ERD from a postgres database.
 
 If anyone's interested, I can make this available. It works quite well.
 It uses a postgres-to-xml extractor that someone wrote (I don't know who
 - their name is not in the file) and then I convert the xml to graphviz.
 
 Regards
   cf
 
 

That sounds interesting. :)

BTJ

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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-07 Thread Malinka Rellikwodahs
i'm interested in both the xml extractor and the conversion, could you reply
with a link or some such it would be greatly appreciated ;)

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Colin Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Conor McTernan wrote:
  I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
  Postgres that run on Linux.
 
  I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
  development has stopped while MySQL workbench is being built (for
  windows only). Neither of these applications will talk to Postgres and
  I've found DBDesigner to be a bit buggy at the best of times (it's
  still quite good and better than nothing I suppose).
 
  I've been using PgAdmin3 which is great for updating/managing
  tables/view etc, but I would really like something for modelling ER
  diagrams which will talk directly to Postgres.
 
  Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that will do
 this?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Conor
 
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 I've created an XSL stylesheet that works with graphviz to reverse
 engineer an ERD from a postgres database.

 If anyone's interested, I can make this available. It works quite well.
 It uses a postgres-to-xml extractor that someone wrote (I don't know who
 - their name is not in the file) and then I convert the xml to graphviz.

 Regards
  cf


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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-07 Thread Colin Fox
I've created a pg_foundry project for this.

Assuming the project gets approved, I'll post the link here.

Regards,
  cf


Malinka Rellikwodahs wrote:
 i'm interested in both the xml extractor and the conversion, could you
 reply with a link or some such it would be greatly appreciated ;)

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Colin Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Conor McTernan wrote:
  I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
  Postgres that run on Linux.
 
  I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
  development has stopped while MySQL workbench is being built (for
  windows only). Neither of these applications will talk to
 Postgres and
  I've found DBDesigner to be a bit buggy at the best of times (it's
  still quite good and better than nothing I suppose).
 
  I've been using PgAdmin3 which is great for updating/managing
  tables/view etc, but I would really like something for modelling ER
  diagrams which will talk directly to Postgres.
 
  Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that
 will do this?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Conor
 
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 If anyone's interested, I can make this available. It works quite
 well.
 It uses a postgres-to-xml extractor that someone wrote (I don't
 know who
 - their name is not in the file) and then I convert the xml to
 graphviz.

 Regards
  cf


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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-06 Thread Thomas Pundt

Hi,

Conor McTernan schrieb:

I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
Postgres that run on Linux.

[...]

Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that will do this?


Datastudio (www.aquafold.com) also has a tool to build ER diagrams.
It is a commercial java application, they offer a fully functional
evaluation version for download on their site.

Ciao,
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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-05 Thread Kevin Kempter
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 20:33:43 Conor McTernan wrote:
 I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
 Postgres that run on Linux.

 I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
 development has stopped while MySQL workbench is being built (for
 windows only). Neither of these applications will talk to Postgres and
 I've found DBDesigner to be a bit buggy at the best of times (it's
 still quite good and better than nothing I suppose).

 I've been using PgAdmin3 which is great for updating/managing
 tables/view etc, but I would really like something for modelling ER
 diagrams which will talk directly to Postgres.

 Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that will do
 this?

 Cheers,

 Conor

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Have a look at Data Architect (www.theKompany.com) 
or Open System Architect (www.codebydesign.com)


/Kevin

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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-05 Thread Phil Rhoades
People,


On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 20:56 -0700, Kevin Kempter wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 March 2008 20:33:43 Conor McTernan wrote:
  I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
  Postgres that run on Linux.
 
  I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
  development has stopped while MySQL workbench is being built (for
  windows only). Neither of these applications will talk to Postgres and
  I've found DBDesigner to be a bit buggy at the best of times (it's
  still quite good and better than nothing I suppose).
 
  I've been using PgAdmin3 which is great for updating/managing
  tables/view etc, but I would really like something for modelling ER
  diagrams which will talk directly to Postgres.
 
  Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that will do
  this?
 
  Cheers,
 
  Conor
 
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 Have a look at Data Architect (www.theKompany.com) 
 or Open System Architect (www.codebydesign.com)


I have never had much success with DA, don't know about OSA and although
I usually avoid Java, I have found Power*Architect excellent - they even
fixed a bug I found overnight!

http://www.sqlpower.ca/page/architect

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Re: [GENERAL] ER Diagram design tools (Linux)

2008-03-05 Thread Roderick A. Anderson

Kevin Kempter wrote:

On Wednesday 05 March 2008 20:33:43 Conor McTernan wrote:

I was wondering if anyone knows of any good ER Diagram tools for
Postgres that run on Linux.


If you're not against paying there is dbwrench http://www.dbwrench.com/.

Java so it could be a bit of a problem because at the time I used it it 
required a JRE that had some FOSS issues.  :-)



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I have been using DBDesigner by FabForce for a couple of years, but
development has stopped while MySQL workbench is being built (for
windows only). Neither of these applications will talk to Postgres and
I've found DBDesigner to be a bit buggy at the best of times (it's
still quite good and better than nothing I suppose).

I've been using PgAdmin3 which is great for updating/managing
tables/view etc, but I would really like something for modelling ER
diagrams which will talk directly to Postgres.

Does anyone know of any commercial or open source software that will do
this?

Cheers,

Conor

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Have a look at Data Architect (www.theKompany.com) 
or Open System Architect (www.codebydesign.com)



/Kevin

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