Re: [GENERAL] Insert Ignore or something similar...

2005-09-06 Thread Cristian Prieto

Thanks a lot!

Well, I just want to avoid a begin...exception when... end block in plpgsql, 
just do it in a few lines of code without a sp...


Thanks a lot again!

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To: Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Insert Ignore or something similar...



On Sep 5, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:


On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:35:49PM -0500, Thomas F. O'Connell wrote:


I don't think any such behavior exists in PostgreSQL, and based on a
reading of the behavior in MySQL, I can't imagine it ever existing
considering the preference of PostgreSQL developers for correct (and
sane) behavior. INSERT IGNORE seems like a foot-cannon...



What is it supposed to do?  If ignoring errors is the behavior  Cristian
wants, it's possible to do with savepoints (or PL/pgSQL exceptions).


Yeah, I think savepoints might be his best bet. It sounded like he
was explicitly trying to avoid PL/pgSQL.

Cristian, here's a pointer to the SAVEPOINT docs:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/sql-savepoint.html

I was mostly remarking that I couldn't envision a flipped switch for
incorrect/non-standard INSERT behavior.

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Re: [GENERAL] Insert Ignore or something similar...

2005-09-06 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:55:26AM -0600, Cristian Prieto wrote:
 Thanks a lot!
 
 Well, I just want to avoid a begin...exception when... end block in 
 plpgsql, just do it in a few lines of code without a sp...

SAVEPOINT foo;
INSERT ... ;
if it fails
  ROLLBACK TO foo;
else
  RELEASE foo

This is pretty much the same that plpgsql begin/exception/end does.

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Re: [GENERAL] Insert Ignore or something similar...

2005-09-05 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell
I don't think any such behavior exists in PostgreSQL, and based on a reading of the behavior in MySQL, I can't imagine it ever existing considering the preference of PostgreSQL developers for correct (and sane) behavior. INSERT IGNORE seems like a foot-cannon... --Thomas F. O'ConnellCo-Founder, Information ArchitectSitening, LLCStrategic Open Source: Open Your i™http://www.sitening.com/110 30th Avenue North, Suite 6Nashville, TN 37203-6320615-469-5150615-469-5151 (fax) On Sep 5, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Cristian Prieto wrote:  Hello everybody,   I've just wondered if there are any way to implement an INSERT IGNORE in PostgreSQL, I know, I could catch an exception in PL/pgSQL and just handle it in the right way, but I would need to write a SP for the task. I've been lookin into the documentation and I found no similar INSERT IGNORE.   Thanks a lot!

Re: [GENERAL] Insert Ignore or something similar...

2005-09-05 Thread Alvaro Herrera
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:35:49PM -0500, Thomas F. O'Connell wrote:
 I don't think any such behavior exists in PostgreSQL, and based on a  
 reading of the behavior in MySQL, I can't imagine it ever existing  
 considering the preference of PostgreSQL developers for correct (and  
 sane) behavior. INSERT IGNORE seems like a foot-cannon...

What is it supposed to do?  If ignoring errors is the behavior Cristian
wants, it's possible to do with savepoints (or PL/pgSQL exceptions).

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Re: [GENERAL] Insert Ignore or something similar...

2005-09-05 Thread Thomas F. O'Connell


On Sep 5, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote:


On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 10:35:49PM -0500, Thomas F. O'Connell wrote:


I don't think any such behavior exists in PostgreSQL, and based on a
reading of the behavior in MySQL, I can't imagine it ever existing
considering the preference of PostgreSQL developers for correct (and
sane) behavior. INSERT IGNORE seems like a foot-cannon...



What is it supposed to do?  If ignoring errors is the behavior  
Cristian

wants, it's possible to do with savepoints (or PL/pgSQL exceptions).


Yeah, I think savepoints might be his best bet. It sounded like he  
was explicitly trying to avoid PL/pgSQL.


Cristian, here's a pointer to the SAVEPOINT docs:

http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/sql-savepoint.html

I was mostly remarking that I couldn't envision a flipped switch for  
incorrect/non-standard INSERT behavior.


--
Thomas F. O'Connell
Co-Founder, Information Architect
Sitening, LLC

Strategic Open Source: Open Your i™

http://www.sitening.com/
110 30th Avenue North, Suite 6
Nashville, TN 37203-6320
615-469-5150
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